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Jul 22, 2026 - 7:05:23 AM
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Here is a well known tune that's fun to play. I believe that John Burke taught it to me when He taught at my School in Greenwich Village NYC years ago  ...Jack

Year Of Jubilo OT

Edited by - Jack Baker on 07/22/2026 07:11:01

Jul 23, 2026 - 9:19:01 AM

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Where is he now? I saw his book of old-time fiddle tunes on Amazon for $150! If I knew it was gonna be worth that much I would’ve hung onto mine.…

Jul 23, 2026 - 9:27:13 AM

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Laurence,
I speak with John every so often. He lives in Washington State in a Barn (or used to)...His two Daughter s are now a Doctor (Attorney?) I believe. He is part of my Instagram and Facebook. How can I be of help?...Jack

Edited by - Jack Baker on 07/23/2026 09:42:08

Jul 23, 2026 - 9:51:48 AM
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chuckv97

Canada

79626 posts since 10/5/2013

I had his book but like Stefan Grossman’s early tabs he didn’t denote proper bar lines or note values. A person would have to be very familiar with the tunes, which actually isn’t a bad thing unless you’re in a 1897 banjo orchestra…..

Jul 23, 2026 - 10:14:50 AM
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Chuck,
Actually, John notated his tabs quite well if you take the time to figure what His tabbing method is. That's how I use and post a lot of his tabs from his Book. Stefan Grossman had a Frenchman musician do most of the tabs in his books...Jack   p.s. I'm looking at his book right now. Look at his Long horizontal notes which are 1/4 notes usually followed by two horizontal 1/8th notes close together. It's really quite simple Chuck wink

Edited by - Jack Baker on 07/23/2026 10:23:46

Jul 23, 2026 - 10:46:18 AM
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chuckv97

Canada

79626 posts since 10/5/2013

Ok, I lost that book about 50 years ago so I can’t figure it out now. At the time I bought it I was green as grass tab/musically so that’s probably why it confused me.

Jul 23, 2026 - 10:57:13 AM
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Ah,
Too bad Chuck as that book was ahead of its time and a fantastic source of Clawhammer tabs but you play Bluegrass so it is not  a gret loss I guess....Oh well....Jack

Edited by - Jack Baker on 07/23/2026 10:58:12

Jul 23, 2026 - 11:06:43 AM
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chuckv97

Canada

79626 posts since 10/5/2013

I was obsessed with Colored Aristocracy the way Tom Paley played it on a New L City Rmblrs album I had. I think John had that tab in his book. At the time I had learned some frailing from Seeger's book,, Shady Grove and Cripple Creek.  I could read his tabs just fine, but had trouble with John's.  A few years ago I met Dan Levenson at a fiddle contest in Yuma - I bought a couple of his CH books in case my picking fingers go south on me.  
(just some boring information fer y'all to mull over.....)

Edited by - chuckv97 on 07/23/2026 11:22:04

Jul 23, 2026 - 11:13:46 AM

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Okaly Doakely.....:-) I do think that Clawhammer has evolved greatly since the days of Pete Seeger, Tom Paley, Dan Levison but that is just my personal opinion I guess....J

Edited by - Jack Baker on 07/23/2026 11:29:04

Jul 23, 2026 - 4:53:43 PM
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I agree with Chuck; I, too, found Burke's and Grossman's tabs quirky and unnecessarily confusing, so I spent many hours re-tabbing a lot of their material in the standard format, including, and most importantly, bar lines, as it's always good to know where the down-beat is. Both men provided useful arrangements -- of great old banjo tunes and blues-guitar songs -- and I learned a lot from them, for which I remain grateful.

Jul 23, 2026 - 5:10:13 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79626 posts since 10/5/2013

If anyone has Burke’s book could you post maybe half of one of his tabs - I’m now curious how they look to me all these years later.

Jul 23, 2026 - 6:58:01 PM
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dbrooks

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5120 posts since 3/11/2004

Here's tab for "The Girl I Left Behind" from Burke's book.  I did not see "Year of Jubilo" and wanted to post a well-known tune.

David


Jul 24, 2026 - 6:38:32 AM
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David,
I think John wrote by the phrase which you have to play and then listen to what the timing would be. At least that's how I always deciphered John's method of writing....Jack   p.s. I believe John just showed me the Year Of Jubilo as I remember or, maybe I just made that version up....

Edited by - Jack Baker on 07/24/2026 06:41:51

Jul 24, 2026 - 8:45:52 AM

chuckv97

Canada

79626 posts since 10/5/2013

quote:
Originally posted by dbrooks

Here's tab for "The Girl I Left Behind" from Burke's book.  I did not see "Year of Jubilo" and wanted to post a well-known tune.

David


Thank you, David. Other than not denoting the pickup notes in a partial measure at the beginning and using 8 beats per measure (8/4 time?)  that one is easy to understand.  It's so long ago now that I can't remember where I was having problems back in the sexy sixties....

Jul 24, 2026 - 8:50:10 AM

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Chuck,
That is not what John meant when He wrote the book. He did it by the phrase and there weren't always 8 beats in a measure...Play the notes in David's attachment and you'll hear that He is really in 4/4 time but not using the conventional 4 beats in a measure as He wanted people to use their ears.....Jack    p.s. if you want to call it 8/4 in a measure then so be it HA

Edited by - Jack Baker on 07/24/2026 08:52:02

Jul 24, 2026 - 8:52:37 AM

chuckv97

Canada

79626 posts since 10/5/2013

quote:
Originally posted by Jack Baker

Chuck,
That is not what John meant when He wrote the book. He did it by the phrase and there weren't always 8 beats in a measure...Play the notes in David's attachment and you'll hear that He is really in 4/4 time but not using the conventional 4 beats in a measure as He wanted people to use their ears.....Jack


I get that, Jack. Not criticizing him, just commenting on his unusual bar line placement. 

Jul 24, 2026 - 8:53:51 AM

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