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Hey all.
Finally I feel I can post something that may be of assistance for some folks.
So I have a (new to me) Ome Wizard walnut 12" pot. It came with steel strings and sounded wonderfully rich and complex, compared to my deering goodtime, it really is tangible.
However, I had obsessed with chasing a specific sound - that Nylgut, sweet, bouncey , mellow sound , old time and mountain sounding. I wanted soft and sweet.
So I invested in a variety of Nylgut and nylon to try. After some faffing with nut slots and bridge slots and snapping a few in the process I finally had my Nylguts on (classics). Alas, the complexity of sound the banjo is capable of, was drastically reduced. It felt great under the fingers, but wow I really noticed the difference of richness of tone. New to me as a new banjo player.
So I tried the red Aquila 11b. Same process, snapped one and waited a few days to get them settled. A little better tone but still it felt like a great disservice to the banjos potential.
Finally after playing for a week, I decided to go back to light steel phosphor strings. I was chasing a sound, but I have learned so much about tone and complexity and overtones, that now I forsake that slight metallic sound for the absolute joy of feeling and hearing the wide variety of tone the banjo can provide. Which I found the Nylguts seemed to have deaden.
On this same note, I had in my head I will get a fiberskyn head! Despite reading on this forum, it being referred to as 'driving down the road with four flat tyres!', but he renaissance head is absolutely wonderful and really is a great head that allows the banjo to sing to it's full potential.
Thanks for your guidance and help on this journey !
Perry
So many technical variables (woods, pot size, strings, heads, bridges, tailpieces), and so many different sets of ears and aural expectations. I've tried many variations of the above, and I always come back to my ideal setup for my everyday banjos: Fiberskyn head, medium gauge phosphor bronze strings, Bacon tone ring, medium moon bridge, 11" maple pot.
Getting nylon tone out of steel strings: in my experience putting a little piece of foam on the play side of the bridge will give you a wonderfully mellow tone...and it sounds very nylon-y. Putting some variation of tape over the bridge can help too. some use gaffers, some use masking...lots of types of tape. I like foam best....in fact I use foam all over my banjos...in nut slots, for tailpiece cushion, in the rim...I have a whole drawer of foam that I have found all over the world. ---- Some banjos I have found can go either way, but many want one or the other. Some banjos just don't sound good with nylon no matter what you do....some banjos should never have steel on them, for structural and sound reasons. ==== I find that I only like working with nylon when I have basic violin style friction tuners. I have an old Buckbee that was never "updated" in any way. Those tuners work great! but nylon on modern tuners is always a hastle for me. ----they can sound great tho on many banjos and there is something there....but if you want to flirt with many sonic variations I recommend steel and a little foam, here & there...
I have Minstrel Nylgut strings on a Stone banjo (no metal tone ring, just the wooden pot) and it sounds wonderful! It is lowered down from open G to open E and i use it mostly to back my voice at the local Farmer's market. And yep, nylon/plastic strings can sound like wet noodles on some banjos. Head tension and bridge can be critical set up factors for securing the tone you desire. banjered
Modern banjos often need the nut slots filing to be the correct fit for synthetic strings. Not a difficult job but one you are unlikely to carry out on a new banjo unless you know for certain that synthetic strings are what you’re going to be playing.
If you tried nylon/nylgut strings with a typical modern ebony-capped bridge which probably came with your banjo, that also won’t have helped an appraisal either. Nylon or gut generally produce their best on an uncapped, thin and much lighter weight bridge. The tailpiece also has a significant effect. Every element of set-up has some effect.
I responded because Nylon or gut strings can be bright, even with a distinctive 'crackle'. It's really only a cliche that they are innately mellow or ‘plunky’. I use gut or rectified nylon for fingerstyle. I avoid Nylgut. For clawhammer I prefer steel, including for fretless clawhammer playing.
Experimenting with tone and feel is part of the fun. That said if you have tone that you like, that’s great. There are no rules. But there is set-up know-how to get the optimal tone from synthetic strings.
Edited by - EEB on 06/06/2026 08:10:10
You say you tried a variety of Nylgut and nylon, but in your post you only mention Nylgut. Nylon is a different beast and ranges from the ultra-light (see LaBella's "Classic 17" pack) to the kind of high-tension strings used by classical guitarists. Not to mention fluorocarbon strings, which are relatively higher tension at the same gauge (or smaller gauge at the same tension, depending on how you want to look at it).
I've never been crazy about Nylguts. The plunk-y, hollow sound they seem to produce is nice on occasion but I wouldn't want my own banjo to sound like that all of the time.
Ditto what EEB said about bridges.
Modern banjos are essentially plectrum banjos.
The original gut strung banjo had a neck set with no back angle. The fingerboard was level and even with the head. With a 1/2" tall bridge the action was 3/16" to 1/4" and gave plenty of clearance for the strings to vibrate without buzzing.
When pick playing became popular, wire stings were found to be better for that. The major change to banjos for plectrum playing was to add back angle to the neck. This lowered the action (wire strings do not move as much) and raised the bridge to provide more clearance to keep the pick from scratching the head.
Putting polyester strings (what "nylgut" are made of) on a modern steel string banjo usually requires a taller bridge, 3/4" to 1" high, otherwise the strings will buzz if played with any confidence.
Then there is the subject of bridges. Attached are images of gut era bridges along with modern bridges in common use today. The difference is striking!
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