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Froglips - Posted - 08/07/2007: 15:09:30
I do not know who this person was, but I have heard mention of this phrase to describe this person many times here on the BHO. Without having to reveal this persons identity, or telling the story behind this persons infamous reputation (Unless you want to
), was this person at least a good picker?
Thanks.
Frog...
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NickelPlate - Posted - 08/07/2007: 15:16:55
OMG I figured it out! Lord Voldemort plays the banjo! When he's not trying to ruin poor Harry Potter's life, he's pickin' and grinnin' on his front porch. 
Please no spoilers.
Dave
'Keep My Skillet Good and Greasy'
Edited by - NickelPlate on 08/07/2007 15:18:03
banjozane - Posted - 08/07/2007: 15:25:29
Jim Bob dies.
Daisy and cletus die, but come back to life after Harry casts a spell of infernal tarnation.
Rufus, and Cleophus die, but are turned into angels.
"I know something sure enough, you'll never get to heaven with a lip full of snuff!"
scawa - Posted - 08/07/2007: 15:51:55
Yes. He who must not be named is a good picker. He offers free clawhammer lessons. However, he tends to put down others that don't agree with him. As do others on this site who don't agree with his teaching concepts.
I wrote a blog about this a while back:
http://www.banjohangout.org/myhango...&blogid=2486
But then because I still post on the BHO, I became the object of "he that must not be named" wrath.
Here is his site, and you can determine if he is a good picker and teacher.
http://tangiersound.wordpress.com/
I've learned a lot from his stuff. He offers it freely with no real desire for monetary gain. Which I feel is the purpose of folk music. But also, having taught guitar for a while, it's nice to get paid for giving lessons... if you do that for a living. And strangely enough, there are people that don't appreciate something unless they pay big bucks for it.
I like his style and his style of teaching, but I can understand how a traditionalist would not. I had a long discussion with an instructor that plays authentic Mississippi John Hurt fingerstyle blues. I understand the view of the person that is working toward that authentic OT style. That's not what I want to achieve, but I see both sides.
Edited by - scawa on 08/07/2007 15:59:42
Banjoman - Posted - 08/07/2007: 17:03:10
I find his playing simple and very basic but he does know how to play what he plays very well.
Let's not let this topic turn into a Pat bash.
GIve the Devil his due.
Hugh
Picking since 1964
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mike gregory - Posted - 08/07/2007: 17:06:43
Let's all grab them banjos and SING!
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Rolls and riffs and fancy strums,
And flatpicks, too, and naked thumbs.
Four strings or five, the music comes,
It's just a bunch of notes.
Folks could be friends, but it gets strange
If one insists the other change
The ranting reaches shouting range,
and good folks move away.
I've looked at it from Both Sides Now,
From pick and strum, and still, somehow
There's different opinions, I recall
And some can't say some names,
At all."
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I spent two and a half years in training for a career in Medical-Surgical patient care.
And it was there that I formed this opinion ABOUT opinions.
Opinions are like colostomies.
Not everybody wants to talk about theirs,
and some people will be very happy to cut you a new one,
to what THEY believe to be the proper style.
Mike Gregory, Banjo Maker Infraordinaire
When I claim that MY instruments are as good as any that Martin or Gibson ever made, I mean DEAN Martin and MEL Gibson!
Here’s what my odd banjos sound like:
http://www.banjohangout.org/myhango....asp?id=8805
mgregorybanjo@core.com
see my banjos at
http://littlebanjos.lunare.net
Edited by - mike gregory on 08/07/2007 17:09:52
wheatstraw - Posted - 08/07/2007: 17:07:53
Honestly, I can't see how anything good is going to come from this thread.
Frog, do you actually know his name? If you do, then a casual search for Mr. NoName on say google or youtube will yield better results than tossing out this question on a forum where 90-95% of the posters don't like the guy. Unless of course, you have something else in mind.
With tongue firmly planted in check,
Patrick (no, NOT the other Patrick -- LOL!)
wheatstraw - Posted - 08/07/2007: 17:10:54
quote:
I spent two and a half years in training for a career in Medical-Surgical patient care.
And it was there that I formed this opinion ABOUT opinions.
Opinions are like colostomies.
Not everybody wants to talk about theirs,
and some people will be very happy to cut you a new one, to what THEY believe to be
the proper style.
LOL!! Beautifully put!
BTW when I said 90-95% it was an offhanded estimate based on all the previous threads I've seen here. It could be closer to 75-80% for all I know.
stanger - Posted - 08/07/2007: 18:01:27
Statistics are like stories- anybody can make them up. (sorry, wheatstraw, I don't think the disapproval was anywhere that high).
The problem is, was, and always will be:
Anyone who totally agrees with him will get along just fine with him.
At the slightest disagreement- and that can be VERY, VERY slight- he goes off on a tear and won't quit. Seriously, he will keep going and going, like the Energizer Bunny.
When disagreements start, as they always do, he just can't keep the discussion civil. He starts calling names and his statements become more and more outrageous, even if the person he's disputing remains polite and civil. This is what has gotten him booted off every forum on the internet.
As Hugh said, his playing is simple and basic. His teaching is mostly talk about his philosophy, which amounts to 'Don't worry about being an ace player; just play.' His lessons are given in very short bites, and his teaching and philosophy are easy to understand for bone beginners. The philosophy is also comforting for those who feel intimidated by the banjo.
And they're pretty good lessons, as far as they go. That's the problem- they don't go all that far for most teachers and players, and neither does his philosophy.
I'm not bashing the guy... I'm simply reporting how it is. He's been like this since ca.1998 on the internet.
regards,
Stanger
"Sometimes I like green shade, and sometimes I like dry shade"
wheatstraw - Posted - 08/07/2007: 18:13:10
quote:
sorry, wheatstraw, I don't think the disapproval was anywhere that high
Well, like I meant to say...tongue firmly in
cheek (although I misspelled it "check" LOL!).
mike gregory - Posted - 08/07/2007: 18:17:37
According to research statistician and nuclear safety technician
Homer J. Simpson, 87% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
wheatstraw - Posted - 08/07/2007: 18:20:10
Just look at the cheeks on that mug!!
wheatstraw - Posted - 08/07/2007: 18:23:05
Speaking of mug, 87% of me really wants a beer right now.
stanger - Posted - 08/07/2007: 18:26:13
Hey Weatstraw...
It's hot here today... I'll join ya, if the beer's cold!
regards,
Stanger
"Sometimes I like green shade, and sometimes I like dry shade"
mike gregory - Posted - 08/07/2007: 18:40:43
Waitress!
Two mugs of Green Shade for
my pals Stanger & Wheatstraw, please.
And I'll have a Colosseum Light.
And see what the other 20,000 people will have. I'll cover it.
Umm, mail me the bill. And add on a nice tip for you.
Schlange's the name, banjo's the game.
wheatstraw - Posted - 08/07/2007: 18:49:21
(Sorry, I couldn't find a pic with 20,000 mugs
)
mike gregory - Posted - 08/07/2007: 19:24:50
quote:
Originally posted by oldwoodchuckb
Did Oscar Wilde really play the banjo or is this some kind of joke.
Oscar was Wilde,
but Gene was Wilder, and had a better hat!
Trust me, I know a good hat when I see one.
DKB - Posted - 08/07/2007: 21:44:58
I thought he who cannot be named played guitar for the dwarves. 3 cords and the truth. Maybe knows 4 cords but never plays more than 3 in one song. I forgot, Who are we talking about again.
Be Blessed
DKB
leastbest - Posted - 08/07/2007: 22:15:32
Pat got me started on the banjo and when i started lessons I was told I had a firm grasp on it. I give him a lot of credit for what he does. Before I'd judge him I'd invite people to watch his videos and read his books.
jerrygarciasbanjofan - Posted - 08/07/2007: 22:25:07
quote:
Originally posted by mike gregory
Waitress!
Two mugs of Green Shade for
my pals Stanger & Wheatstraw, please.
And I'll have a Colosseum Light.
And see what the other 20,000 people will have. I'll cover it.
Umm, mail me the bill. And add on a nice tip for you.
Schlange's the name, banjo's the game.
The return of Coliseum Light
And to keep this thread banjo related, I didnt know Voldemort could pick....I sure would fancy a jam session sometime.....
Chris,
www.Myspace.com/tangograsswww.vzvalley.com
stanger - Posted - 08/08/2007: 00:14:01
Hi, Chuck...
Who are you referring to? Voldemort?
hmmmmm.... nah. It must be Mike Gregory. Right? I thought Robert Morley did a good impression of him, too, but Angela's was better. Mike was much prettier in his wasted youth, and his hat was much younger, too.
Now... I'm gonna go get me one of those green beers...
regards,
Stanger
"Sometimes I like green shade, and sometimes I like dry shade"
Flatlander - Posted - 08/08/2007: 15:54:37
I like him a lot and after watching a gazillion videos on YouTube, I think his are some of the best. I'd like to meet him someday.
Daniel Runyon - Posted - 08/08/2007: 16:35:27
Generally these Google ads are supposed to take keywords from the context of the page and generate relevant ads... I just happened to catch this:
I'm seein a metaphorical tie in, but I cain't put it into words!
timacn - Posted - 08/08/2007: 18:47:29
If we're talking about the same guy, I just bought HWMNBN's book and its very good. I thought it was cool that he put it up for free on the internet and I wanted to buy it.
I don't know the person in question, but I've decided I like him because he seems like he has a good heart and is passionate about his subject. He also seems like he wants banjo playing to be a "big tent" thing rather than something exclusive.
I've read that some people feel his passion gets a little overwhelming at times. So what? If we're talking about the same guy, I think he's of Irish descent. It wouldn't be the first time a Mick got fired up over something he loved. Personally, I like his emotion and his kindness. The fact that he put his book on the net for free spoke volumes to me. (and the last page of the book was very, very touching indeed)
Tim McNamara
Lancaster, PA.
Daniel Runyon - Posted - 08/08/2007: 19:29:32
quote:
Originally posted by mike gregory
A man's poetic grasp
Must exceed his poetic reach,
Else what's a meta phor?
I figure Google's algorithm did all the poetics for the astute observer, and what's REALLY so neat about it is it works for either side of the coin.
As for Patrick's playin, I dig it. You won't necessarily see the fullness of his ability in his workshop clips, but after watching a great deal of what he's put out, I've seen a coupla instances that show he's pretty danged good when he lets his talents loose. In the workshops he keeps it pretty basic though, so if all you do is watch those you may get the impression that he's more limited than he actually is. There's somethin to be said for not feelin the need to show off all the time.
There's no doubt that he gets overly abrasive with people sometimes, and that's not something that's admirable, but in the end I don't think there's ever been a noteworthy folk artist that doesn't have some interesting juxtapositions in their makeup and I choose to keep on the sunny side in my views toward him... as has been stated, the positives of his doings are pretty amazing... he GIVES his knowledge completely freely, and in ABUNDANCE too... not just a few little table scraps here and there... he spends a LOT of time at conveying his way and makes sure that anybody that can get ahold of a computer can see and hear it.
His philosophy itself, as outlined in his speaking and in his books is well worth chewing on to boot... I've not seen ANYONE else go so deep into the cerebral territory of music making as he does (others may, but I can't afford their DVD's or books right now!) and to me that stuff is as, or in some ways more important than "where to put your fingers".
Nutshelled, if you had a see saw with Patrick's good side on one seat and bad on the other, the bad would be stuck up in the air.
stanger - Posted - 08/08/2007: 19:43:46
All I can say about Pat has already been stated over and over by others, good and bad. For you who like him, that's wonderful; for you who don't, that's ok too.
The guy has two sides, obviously, each as strong as the other. He's been talked about hundreds of times everywhere there is any sort of forum, and all the talk always amounts to what I just said above. Finding someone with a truly dual personality is rare, and maybe that's why so many find Pat fascinating. They either want to join in the Pied Piper Pat's Merry Band, or want him to see the light, so his good side takes over and banishes Bad Pat forever.
He always plays nice in his own sandbox, but he simply can't play nice anywhere else. Hang around long enough, and you'll see both sides.
Personally, I think he really likes the attention, any way he can get it, and any kind it happens to be. I know he bites friends and foes equally, given time. I've been there, seen that, over and over, everywhere on the net.
regards,
Stanger
"Sometimes I like green shade, and sometimes I like dry shade"
Edited by - stanger on 08/08/2007 19:53:41
Jody Hughes_Starcreek - Posted - 08/08/2007: 19:55:54
How do you determine if someone is a good picker? Go find a video, soundcast of there playing and listen...if you like it then they are good...if you dont then In your opinion they aren't...simple as that
i wouldnt let anyone else decide for me if someone is a "good picker"...especially over the internet.
i cant seem to remember this guy...but seems like there was some guy on here a couple years back that was wacko about his teaching methods and thought EVERYONE else was wrong, didnt like anything but Bluegrass or ole timey too...not sure if this is the guy ya'll are talking about.
