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banjonz - Posted - 09/12/2025:  14:53:48


I have been looking online for solutions on how to thin down binding material from 1.5mm thickness. I only found one vid showing someone with a hand plane mounted on a few pieces of wood and the binding being pulled through and shaving it thinner. The camera recording was too far away to get any real detail. Any thoughts?

DSmoke - Posted - 09/12/2025:  15:56:46


I'm interested as well. I've always just scraped/planed it after gluing in on, which is not my favorite job.

eagleisland - Posted - 09/12/2025:  16:30:06


Be careful as hell. Celluloid is highly flammable. If memory serves, the late Arthur Hatfield was trying to thin down celluloid binding when it caught fire and gave him second- and third-degree burns. Almost destroyed his ability to play banjos, let alone build them.

banjonz - Posted - 09/12/2025:  16:34:35


quote:

Originally posted by DSmoke

I'm interested as well. I've always just scraped/planed it after gluing in on, which is not my favorite job.






After a bit more searching, I have come across a device called a Lie-Nielson thicknessing tool. I think I might attempt to make something like this.



 



 

trapdoor2 - Posted - 09/12/2025:  16:52:17


quote:

Originally posted by banjonz

quote:

Originally posted by DSmoke

I'm interested as well. I've always just scraped/planed it after gluing in on, which is not my favorite job.






After a bit more searching, I have come across a device called a Lie-Nielson thicknessing tool. I think I might attempt to make something like this.



 






I'd use replaceable scraper blades, mounted to a scrap of wood with slots cut to suit. Might be a bit fiddly on set-up but for a short run, it should work.

banjonz - Posted - 09/12/2025:  17:18:40


I am already designing up a jig to make. It shouldn't be to hard.

DSmoke - Posted - 09/12/2025:  17:29:04


As Skip mentioned and why I don’t enjoy this work, it’s extremely flammable. Maybe you can sell the scapings as the “Ultimate Fire Starter”. I get the scrapings out as soon as possible. But, I still have a shop full of celluloid so I guess I hope it’s stable.

banjonz - Posted - 09/13/2025:  00:48:07


quote:

Originally posted by DSmoke

As Skip mentioned and why I don’t enjoy this work, it’s extremely flammable. Maybe you can sell the scapings as the “Ultimate Fire Starter”. I get the scrapings out as soon as possible. But, I still have a shop full of celluloid so I guess I hope it’s stable.






I'm not using celluloid but ABS plastic.

staceyz - Posted - 09/13/2025:  08:18:19


I finally caved in, and bought the Stewmac binding trimmer... I love it. I can make anything now. Great for restoration work, matching up odd ball sized binding...

stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-...b9f68c5ec

staceyz - Posted - 09/13/2025:  08:20:50


.. Also a friend of mine, has a thickness sander (drum sander), and he would use double sided tape, and stick on a couple strips of binding on a board, and run it through a few times to thin the binding to the desired thickness. That also worked..

desert rose - Posted - 09/14/2025:  00:41:27


VERY little binding material is celluloid today, unless its pearloid, tortoise, foney abalone etc is ALL abs or other non flamable plastics. No worry at all
Sanding or machine is perfectly ok
I normally use a pin router because the accurcy is extremely controllable

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