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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: TOTW 8 March 2024 - Cumberland Gap based on the playing of George Landers


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RG - Posted - 03/08/2024:  10:42:14


When I first heard the John Cohen recorded LP "High Atmosphere" in 1975, I immediately wore out the album playing it over and over at half speed trying to figure out the tunes.  It's such a great collection of songs, tunes and ballads, but one song that was my instant favorite was the playing of "Cumberland Gap" by George Landers.  The tune was like hieroglyphics to me, having just started playing banjo 3 years prior, and to be honest, I don't think I've ever deciphered it, or heard anyone else decipher it... his playing was so intensely dense and complex, the perfect compliment to his voice.  The only video I know that exists of him playing is on the film "End of An Old Song", and if I had been able to see that all those decades ago, it would have been a lot easier to attempt to figure out what he was doing.  That lack of visual documentation of the old-time old-timers was what led David Bragger and myself to start up Tiki Parlour recordings about ten years or so ago.



Lander's sings to the tune (I don't, and you should be grateful for that), and he repeats the old "Lay down boys and take a little nap, you'll catch hell in the Cumberland Gap" line, but precedes that with a nonsensical verse, the first part of which is somewhat indecipherable, but sounds like "Looked at the kitten and the kitten meowed", followed clearly by the line "one was a bull and the other was a sow."  Make of that what you will as to the meaning, but Lander's chuckles after singing the verse.   



George Landers played in the classic NC 2 finger up-picking "still hand" style, and his use of down and up brush strokes to imitate the sound of drop thumb took me a long time to figure out.  There's not a lot known about George Landers, except what Mike Seeger and John Cohen (who both recorded him) wrote, and he has remained somewhat of an old-time enigma over all these years... which seems fitting to me given the nature of his playing.



There's another thread for a TOTW done by Chuck Levy a while ago, I suggest you check it out, and he gives a good history of the geographical landmark, so I won't bore you all and repeat it here.



Here's my version of Lander's Cumberland Gap that I worked out so many years ago. I've lost the speed of the tune over time, but it's still fun to dust it off every now and then and play it.  it's in fCFCD and I hope you all enjoy it.


Edited by - RG on 03/24/2024 13:24:24


chip arnold - Posted - 03/09/2024:  08:55:06


J. Roy Stalcup of Warne, N.C. used his index back and forth like that but usually with a distinct brush and for rhythmic emphasis rather than melody. I had never heard of George Landers but I like what you do with it.

RG - Posted - 03/09/2024:  11:05:12


Thanks Chip!



I remember an old thread where you posted a Berea College link to Mr. Stalcup playing, and that's how I became acquainted with his style... he was fantastic!  His Coal Creek March is one of my favorite renditions of that tune.


Edited by - RG on 03/09/2024 11:18:37

JanetB - Posted - 03/13/2024:  17:37:32


Impressive hieroglyphic interpretation, Rick! You combine higher and lower notes in such a way, it sounds like two instruments. So does Landers.

I'm having a hard time making it out and can see what makes it such a challenge. I couldn't even get a tuning to encompass that low range he hits.

High Atmosphere must have influenced a lot of serious players with its collection of music which otherwise would have disappeared. Thanks for alerting us to it.

RG - Posted - 03/14/2024:  14:46:15


Thanks Janet, appreciate the kind words. I wish I could play it up to speed, but alas, my fingers just don't move as fast as they want to anymore.

High Atmosphere was indeed a "Holy Grail" album to me, along with the County CH 3 volume series, I still love to listen to those records.

It would be really hard to tab this out I'm afraid, some alternate string pulls and other stuff in there that I used to try to approximate with Mr. Landers was doing... one of those tunes you just have to keep playing around with to come close, and I'm still not sure I did-haha!

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