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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: TOTW 11/15/19


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Gentleman From VA - Posted - 11/15/2019:  04:17:31


Hey hey!

I’ve never gotten to do one of these before.

I chose my handle namesake because it didn’t look like it was on the previous tune list. This tune is called Gentleman From Virginia. Sometimes its titled Gentleman OF Virginia but either will suffice.



Its spreading around to different circles has been attributed to North Carolina fiddler Tommy Hunter. blueridgeheritage.com/artist/tommy-hunter/



I have found a tab already on the banjo hangout by banjukebox ! banjohangout.org/tab/browse.as...l&v=23430



And best of all. Its one youtube.

My shot at it!

youtu.be/36nhaRVPQWw



Stuart Brothers

youtu.be/wzNxukv6ZJI



A FAST version by Foghorn

youtu.be/ghiKDvPEP-I



And its even on “Slower than Dirt”

slowerthandirt.org/tunes/gentl...virginia/



There is no real significance of this tune to me except i like to try and play it slowly as a warmup and workout giving ever more complicated versions or stripping it down nice and easy. Also, i don't know many players doing a version of it as i never hear it in jams or anything and when i bring it up, no one seems to have heard of it! Let's fix that!



Can’t wait to hear other people’s takes on it.


Edited by - Gentleman From VA on 11/15/2019 04:22:38

Wyozark - Posted - 11/15/2019:  06:16:58


This is good stuff. Enjoyed your playing. Is that a fox tail hanging off your banjo?

banjukebox - Posted - 11/15/2019:  06:20:17


Great choice for TOTW.The tune is not infrequently played at jams here in the NW, I think probably because the Canote Brothers taught it in one of their stringband classes. The recording you posted above (under slower than dirt) was obtained from the Canote's Mossyroof site which is a great source for Tunes and Tabs. Canote version  



Mossyroof site



Arnie Naiman also recorded a version with the Albemarle Ramblers: Naiman version



The version I learned (Tab referenced above) was based on the Stuart Brothers' version recorded on their album from the Old-Time Tiki Parlor (another great source for tunes recorded by contemporary musicians) Tiki Parlor



Here's a link to the version I came up with for the banjo: Gentleman From Virginia-banjo

Gentleman From VA - Posted - 11/15/2019:  07:03:46


quote:

Originally posted by Wyozark

This is good stuff. Enjoyed your playing. Is that a fox tail hanging off your banjo?






It is, it has been with me since my goodtime when I first got started. 



Thanks for the kind words!

Gentleman From VA - Posted - 11/15/2019:  07:23:26


quote:

Originally posted by banjukebox

Great choice for TOTW.The tune is not infrequently played at jams here in the NW, I think probably because the Canote Brothers taught it in one of their stringband classes. The recording you posted above (under slower than dirt) was obtained from the Canote's Mossyroof site which is a great source for Tunes and Tabs. Canote version  



Mossyroof site



Arnie Naiman also recorded a version with the Albemarle Ramblers: Naiman version



The version I learned (Tab referenced above) was based on the Stuart Brothers' version recorded on their album from the Old-Time Tiki Parlor (another great source for tunes recorded by contemporary musicians) Tiki Parlor



Here's a link to the version I came up with for the banjo: Gentleman From Virginia-banjo






I almost referenced Arnie's versions as well but realized I wouldn't have much to say as I've never listened to them until last night.



You're tab and video were a great find too when I was looking up stuff, I love your channel. 



It is funny how tunes can move and migrate; I never hear it in the area of the blue ridge and keep trying to get folks on board. Maybe one day

RG - Posted - 11/15/2019:  11:12:03


Real nice version there Joshua, and a great pick! This is such a fun tune to play, learned it from Travis & Trevor via David Bragger, one of my favorite tunes to play on the fiddle as well...

Gentleman From VA - Posted - 11/15/2019:  11:46:45


quote:

Originally posted by RG

Real nice version there Joshua, and a great pick! This is such a fun tune to play, learned it from Travis & Trevor via David Bragger, one of my favorite tunes to play on the fiddle as well...






I just picked up a fiddle 5 days ago. I'm..bad, but I've ben figuring on learning this one eventually!

RV6 - Posted - 11/15/2019:  14:29:54


Well played and a great sounding banjo.  A Goodtime.  Tell us more.  Model, head, strings, bridge --- .  I really like the sound.



Fiddle 5 days ago??!!   You're just starting to learn?   I bought my first fiddle 3 months ago and have been having a blast. 

Gentleman From VA - Posted - 11/15/2019:  15:31:20


Wyozark ,

Oh man, fiddle for five days, and i can scratch out cumberland gap and the a part of liza jane. And my girlfriend is hating me for it. Though, she’s letting me borrow it from her so she knew what she was getting into!



And as far the banjo and the foxtail: (i should write a tune) what i was trying to communicate was that while my banjos have come and gone the fox tail remains. My first banjo was a goodtime, then i got an enoch tradesman, and the foxtail went on that. Now im playing on an OME Tupelo with john bach 4 star head and diadarrio "almost medium" strings.  but the fox tail remains. My duo uses the imagery of the banjo and foxtail in alot of out merch so its gotta come along no matter what banjo i use. Except for my Mac Taynham Semi-Fretless, i believe ima find something feather or snake related for that instrument.


Edited by - Gentleman From VA on 11/15/2019 15:33:38

slc - Posted - 11/15/2019:  16:06:34


Oooh! I love this tune! Excellent choice.



I worked it out (fiddle) last year from the Albemarle Ramblers CD (my favorite version) and got one of my jams playing it - it's a fun one on fiddle.



I'll see if I can work it out to satisfaction on banjo, and post it here.


Edited by - slc on 11/15/2019 16:22:01

Gentleman From VA - Posted - 11/15/2019:  16:20:46


Oh yes! Post it. And id love to see your fiddle playing for it too.

Gentleman From VA - Posted - 11/15/2019:  16:59:36


quote:

Originally posted by Gentleman From VA

@rv6 ,

Oh man, fiddle for five days, and i can scratch out cumberland gap and the a part of liza jane. And my girlfriend is hating me for it. Though, she’s letting me borrow it from her so she knew what she was getting into!



And as far the banjo and the foxtail: (i should write a tune) what i was trying to communicate was that while my banjos have come and gone the fox tail remains. My first banjo was a goodtime, then i got an enoch tradesman, and the foxtail went on that. Now im playing on an OME Tupelo with john bach 4 star head and diadarrio "almost medium" strings.  but the fox tail remains. My duo uses the imagery of the banjo and foxtail in alot of out merch so its gotta come along no matter what banjo i use. Except for my Mac Taynham Semi-Fretless, i believe ima find something feather or snake related for that instrument.






@rv6 i forgot to tag the right person. 


Edited by - Gentleman From VA on 11/15/2019 17:00:21

JanetB - Posted - 11/16/2019:  10:52:22


This tune really grows on you, Joshua.  I love that it's the source of your moniker.  Great to hear your and Pat.  I tried to find a Tommy Hunter recording.  A cassette on amazon playing with Carroll Best's band is all I've found so far.  The Canote Brothers had a delightful recording you shared with the tempo I like, so my arrangement comes from that one.


JanetB - Posted - 11/17/2019:  13:01:57


Sharing this post on Facebook's Clawhammer Rules connected me with one of Tommy's bandmates, Zack Clark Allen. Both he and Tommy were featured in the Blueridge National Area site (Tommy's link above):  blueridgeheritage.com/artist/zack-allen/.  Zack has had a renowned musical history of his own and told me he's gotten back to his clawhammer banjo in the last two years.  He shared an autographed keepsake album cover of Tommy's, though it doesn't have Gentleman from Virginia.  Tommy appears to be one of these talented Appalachian fiddlers we don't hear much about, but whose careers were prominent during their lives and who are remembered fondly by many. I like the part of his life story where he snuck his grandfather's fiddle out to learn and placed it back carefully.  Tommy was already playing for square dances by age 12.  It's a good thing you've introduced us to him, Joshua.





 





Tommy Hunter, Carroll Best, Danny Johnson, Zack Allen (1983)


Edited by - JanetB on 11/17/2019 13:03:37

slc - Posted - 11/17/2019:  13:58:43


Ok! Here's my take. 

 



Janet thanks for posting that info - I've been curious about the original source. 

 



Around here Harry Liedstrand plays it, and I believe he plays it very close to the original (with ALL the notes haha). But when I wanted to learn it I couldn't find a recording of Harry or Tommy Hunter. So found and bought the Albemarle Ramblers CD instead. Just as well - I really like this version.

 



 


Gentleman From VA - Posted - 11/17/2019:  14:02:12


slc this sounds great!

JanetB i saw your facebook post snd thread. Fun how the digital world really can bring us all closer. Great info and resource found there today.

RV6 - Posted - 11/17/2019:  16:30:47


Foxtail.   I get to play with an outstanding banjo (and fiddle player) who has an Ozark banjo with a "fox motif" with her fox tail attached.   It's my ideal banjo sound and, if I were younger, I'd buy one that sounds like this one.   On the other hand, I can listen to Christina and enjoy the sound without spending any money.   Win, win.



The banjo is featured, pictured and with a youtube video, 9 banjos down.



ozarkbanjo.com/photos



I played this banjo and it was great!  But, it sounds so much better when Christina plays itsmiley



I get to hear her play the banjo most every Tues. at our old time jam and it's a joy to listen to the banjo and her playing.



 

WVDreamin - Posted - 11/17/2019:  19:43:24


Christina has a nice touch, doesn’t she? She tells me she does some horse trading a few hours from me here in Iowa. We traded numbers and will be getting together when that happens. Says she has a LOT of downtime while she’s there. I can hardly wait!

JanetB - Posted - 11/18/2019:  21:18:38


Zack Allen found the closest recording we have so far to Tommy Hunter in the Digital Library of Appalachia. Roger Howell was in the same band as Tommy's (thought I don't know if they were there at the same time as both played fiddle) and tells here about Tommy visiting the Smithsonian.  We can hope that this version is close to Tommy's:  Roger Howell from Carroll Best Band playing Gentleman from Virginia.  I arranged Roger's version and follow it with the Canote Brothers version. The two are similar but very different, too.

 


Gentleman From VA - Posted - 11/19/2019:  05:55:14


quote:

Originally posted by JanetB

Zack Allen found the closest recording we have so far to Tommy Hunter in the Digital Library of Appalachia. Roger Howell was in the same band as Tommy's (thought I don't know if they were there at the same time as both played fiddle) and tells here about Tommy visiting the Smithsonian.  We can hope that this version is close to Tommy's:  Roger Howell from Carroll Best Band playing Gentleman from Virginia.  I arranged Roger's version and follow it with the Canote Brothers version. The two are similar but very different, too.

 






Oh BOY! I can't wait to give this a listen!

slc - Posted - 11/19/2019:  14:30:27


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