phb - Posted - 07/22/2019:  05:09:27

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Originally posted by banjo bill-e

Phillipp asked--"Did they perhaps do that because they wanted to see whether she really took the pills --"



Yes that is the rationale but it is applied indiscriminately, and they KNEW her condition. Now, every single month in the waiting room were several patients that looked VERY sketchy to me, along with others like my MIL who were obviously sick, and I thought that I could group them by sight from across the room. But to hold off the eager lawyers ready to pounce on any medical establishment (which by the way is a huge part of our medical expense problem) the staff is instructed to treat every patient as if they are criminals trying to scam the system.

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Thanks for your reply, Bill. Who are you angry about? The nurses and doctors treating everybody with the same display of distrust or the drug abusers (irrespective of whether these may be the people taking the pills or the ones producing and selling them) that cause this system of distrust?

From Greylock to Bean Blossom - Posted - 07/22/2019:  05:33:19

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Originally posted by banjo bill-e

I also worry about those who actually DO need these medicines. My MIL has passed, but until she did she was in pain management, where they treated a crippled 86-yr old as is she were a criminal suspect, made her pee in jar every 30 days and she lived in terror of running out, because her spine was steadily shaping itself into a question mark and her vertebrae had fused together, which without a strong regimen of opioids would have left her in screaming pain with suicide the only option.

And that option is chosen many times when doctors are told by regulators what a patient that they know nothing about, actually needs. Or as one genius said "just take a Tylenol".

I must admit that I wished that he would know that desperate pain up close and personal one day.

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We trust too much in big pharma and they have betrayed many people.  From what I have heard(correct me if I am wrong) they are one of the largest donors to our politicians which seems to buy the politicians looking the other way. I have heard of very few denying they will take donations from big pharma. And their adds of encouraging people to back legislation which benefits them are very misleading. they are out of line from their cost to people as well as their place in medicine. It seems that they hinder preventive medicine. Big Pharma needs to be looked at hard?

2 cent ken

Edited by - From Greylock to Bean Blossom on 07/22/2019 05:35:27

steve davis - Posted - 07/22/2019:  07:32:48

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Originally posted by yeoldbanjoguy

The post was about about a sad report in mountain music. Not about how awesome we are for beating our addictions. It’s ok for the story to be about someone else.... really!



Bruce

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Thank goodness you're not in charge of what gets said here.

Owen - Posted - 07/22/2019:  07:49:17

Ken, is big pharma betraying people, or simply using the economic system, and possibly the legal one too, to its advantage?

steve davis - Posted - 07/22/2019:  07:57:27

Can we say "Lobbyists" here?

Edited by - steve davis on 07/22/2019 07:58:13

From Greylock to Bean Blossom - Posted - 07/22/2019:  08:31:57

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Originally posted by Owen

Ken, is big pharma betraying people, or simply using the economic system, and possibly the legal one too, to its advantage?

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Owen, IMO, people have a responsibility to treat others decently and also not to be deceptive. Pharmaceuticals, IMO,  are presumed to be there to help people. Again IMO, I don't think you can legislate morality and also you can't have a functioning democracy without morality. Trouble in River City.

2 cents ken