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CosmicCharlie24 - Posted - 12/01/2018:  08:53:35


Hey All - I'm not sure where this message belongs but does anyon of a note chart that list all the notes for each string at each fret in G tuning? I know there is a way to figure this out but I'm a visual learner and studying such a chart would be very beneficial to me. Thanks!!!

PKM - Posted - 12/01/2018:  09:03:38


Hey Charlie,
I don't know of a chart, but I've had students make their own because they learn the location of the notes faster during the time that they are figuring it out. Then, when you're done, you not only know it better, you can make copies for your friends.
Cheers,

CosmicCharlie24 - Posted - 12/01/2018:  09:22:25


Thanks PKM but unfortunately I don't trust myself to do it correctly. I always get mixed up on flats and shaps and I'm sure I'd get it wrong somewhere.

Mooooo - Posted - 12/01/2018:  09:30:11


A note chart won't really help you for the names of all the notes all the time. Take F for instance. it is usually an F, but sometimes it turns into an E# (key of F#) but if you look at a piano you won't see a black key there. Also, the note C can sometimes be a B# if you are playing in the key of C#. All the rest of the accidental notes (flat and sharp) have two names, or enharmonic equivalent names, for example Eb=D#...A#=Bb...etc...You can easily make up a chart on your computer or by hand. If you really want to learn and have nice visuals, you should chart out the individual scales on the fret board yourself. Otherwise your fretoboard diagram will be cluttered with every possible name for each note. You can research all the scales and not only learn the fretboard, but learn the theory behind the music.

CosmicCharlie24 - Posted - 12/01/2018:  09:35:31


Thanks Moooo - I was hoping for something less complicated but I guess its not to be.

Mooooo - Posted - 12/01/2018:  09:36:01


1st string, 4th string and 5th string(5th fret and after): D, D#/EB, E/Fb, E#/F, F#/Gb, G, G#/Ab, A, A#/Bb, B/Cb, B#/C, C#/Db, D. Then it continues to repeat from the 12th fret up. It's going to be confusing learning like that. Then there's two more strings to learn.



You can always have a less complicated, less complete note chart. Try one without the flats and another without the sharps....ie one is only with sharps and the other with only flats D, D#, E, F, F#, G, G#, A, A#, B, C, C#, D, D#, E, F, F#....etc 


Edited by - Mooooo on 12/01/2018 09:45:18

CosmicCharlie24 - Posted - 12/01/2018:  09:43:26


Thanks Mooooo.

beegee - Posted - 12/01/2018:  09:59:46


If you google " fretboard map for 5-string banjo G tuning" you can find lots of them. Most of them only go to the 12th or 14th fret because the notes repeat after the 12th fret.


Edited by - beegee on 12/01/2018 10:00:08

CosmicCharlie24 - Posted - 12/01/2018:  10:14:40


Thanks Bob - that worked great! My choice of search words wasn't cutting it. Best wishes!

RB3 - Posted - 12/01/2018:  10:20:07


Attached is a PDF file of the chart. If anyone finds any mistakes on it, let me know, and I'll edit it and re-post it.


CosmicCharlie24 - Posted - 12/01/2018:  10:29:03


Thanks RB3 - appreciate the chart!

Old Hickory - Posted - 12/01/2018:  10:52:18


quote:

Originally posted by CosmicCharlie24

I always get mixed up on flats and shaps and I'm sure I'd get it wrong somewhere.






All of the notes are:



A

A#/Bb  (two names/same note)

B

C

C#/Db

D

D#/Eb

E

F

F#/Gb

G

G#/Ab



You can see that there is no note between B and C  or between E and F.  This means B and C and E and F are a half step apart.  On a piano keyboard, they're consecutive white keys with no black in between.  All the other consecutive letter names are a whole step apart, so there's an intervening half step. Those would be the black keys.



The intervening notes have two different names: "X sharp" to indicate they're a half step higher than note "X" and "Y flat" to indicate they're a half step lower than note "Y."



While it's true that B, C, E and F in rare instances will be renamed as sharps or flats, the practical truth is that in bluegrass, folk, old time or whatever music a beginner like you is most likely to play you will never encounter this or have any reason to know it. 



It's great that others have pointed you to charts that answer your original question about note location.  It will be even greater if as part of using a chart you commit it to memory. As a start, commit the A through G# note names and the names of the 5 strings to memory.  Just like learning to count is a foundation for arithmetic and learning the alphabet is a foundation for reading, knowing the available notes is a foundation for music.



After learning the notes and their locations, try learning the notes of the various major scales;  G, C, D for starters.  Here's a hint: all major scales follow the same pattern as to whole notes and half notes. Second hint: The key of C major uses only "natural" notes CDEFGABC - no sharps or flats.  Learn this one first and from it you can learn the repeatable pattern for whole and half steps and therefore find the other scales on your own.



Take your time. No need to learn it all at once. You can play plenty of music without knowing all of this. But knowing it eventually will help you progress further as a musician.

Andy Campbell - Posted - 12/01/2018:  11:10:45


I bought this many years ago



melbay.com/Products/20285/banj...hart.aspx

 

dr4dpet - Posted - 12/02/2018:  00:34:42


You may also find this, A MUSICAL APPROACH TO LEARNING THE BANJO NECK, helpful. It is a 10 page pdf, the diagram you want is on page 10.

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