Zischkale - Posted - 06/15/2017:  20:10:06

Another one of those picks that I can’t believe hasn’t been covered yet. This one's the sort of tune you can just rip through at a jam, all banging banjo and bleating. Listening to the Wade Ward / Holcomb record, the clawhammer banjo master’s rendition really clicked with me. The way he catches that second string with a dropped thumb is so absolutely snappy and syncopated, he just tears that one up.

Other favorites are the Burris Bros’ beautiful charging take on it, and at the other end of the spectrum, Dan Gellert’s groovy, head-nodding “proto-funk”. Would be remiss not to mention the January 2016 issue of Banjo Newsletter, in which Dan shares both his brilliant arrangement of Old Jimmy Sutton and the classic Syke’s Black-Eyed Susie.

I’m not closer to discovering who Sutton is, nor is Tunearch revealing any secrets, but I had a great time playing it, taking from Leftwich and Uncle Wade, on my Noah Cline mountain banjo.

Old Jimmy Sutton

Would love to hear y’all’s stories, renditions, and histories about the tune.

Tobus - Posted - 06/16/2017:  05:05:27

Another great pick! Nice playing too.  Sounds great on that fretless banjo.

I always get a kick out of hearing Josh Turknett and Justin Manglitz playing it when I listen to their Georgia Jays "Round Peak, Georgia" album.



( still can't seem to properly embed videos, so here's the link)

youtu.be/kHdUjTVw8To?list=PLGK...ifeAHv7ac

 

Edited by - Tobus on 06/16/2017 05:06:01

Zischkale - Posted - 06/16/2017:  08:39:55

Good stuff, Tobin, I'm assuming that's Justin Manglitz yellin out the title. That take has some heft to it, real great drive.

hendrid - Posted - 06/16/2017:  08:41:36

ibiblio.org/fiddlers/OLDHA_OLDMRS.htm  Old Jimmy Sutton,   Old‑Time, Breakdown. USA, Virginia. D Major. Standard tuning. AB. Source for notated version: Highwoods String Band (New York) [Brody]. Brody (Fiddler’s Fakebook), 1983; pg. 206. Biograph 6003, "The Original Bogtrotters." Rounder 0045, Highwoods String Band‑ "Dance All Night." Tennvale 003, Pete Parish‑ "Clawhammer Banjo."

The Dots    abcnotation.com/tunePage?a=tun...-ext/0001

Edited by - hendrid on 06/16/2017 08:44:23

RG - Posted - 06/16/2017:  13:08:44

Dan can be heard AND seen playing the tune on his Tiki Parlour release oldtimetikiparlour.com/product...d-cd-set/, Justin Manglitz is a great fiddle player, his and Josh's album is real nice...great tune pick and great playing Aaron!

RV6 - Posted - 06/16/2017:  13:21:42

I like Tony Holmquist's fiddlin' :  youtube.com/watch?v=VZ6whe_tcbY

Brooklynbanjoboy - Posted - 06/17/2017:  05:10:29

Here's a tab:

taterjoes.com/banjo/JimmySutton.pdf

hendrid - Posted - 06/17/2017:  08:51:29

Sheet music and lyrics:

showman.org/Tunes/OldJimmySutton-D.pdf

JanetB - Posted - 06/18/2017:  14:16:34

You're a good entertainer, Aaron -- much fun to watch you.  I listened to several versions of Old Jimmy Sutton and heard two different styles of B parts.  The first one I do here is more like a traditional breakdown.  The second is modal.  I heard it in a Tommy Jarrell recording and saw it in John Burke's tabs based mostly on the playing of Glen Smith and partially on Wade Ward.  It was also interesting to hear on a Reeltime Travelers video:  youtube.com/watch?v=olHIbHbq4E8.  Here's a neat version of a flat foot dancer with Tommy Jarrell. There are also a couple of good youtube videos of Hilary Burhans teaching Old Jimmy Sutton.  And finally, I guess this would have applied to me:  "Hot Dog!  The Old Jimmy Sutton! If you can''t play that, you can't play nuthin'!"

(And, BTW, at the end of my video you can see my new Doc Huff short-scale banjo.)

Edited by - JanetB on 06/18/2017 14:20:15

VIDEO: Old Jimmy Sutton
(click to view)

Old Jimmy Sutton (CH) tab

Brooklynbanjoboy - Posted - 06/18/2017:  14:39:09

Nice playing, JB - and such a unique banjo.  Use it in good health.

hweinberg - Posted - 06/19/2017:  06:45:19

Thanks for another fine setting of a tune, JB.  There are few tunes as much fun to play--and to dance to!

Zischkale - Posted - 06/21/2017:  05:57:51

Great playing, Janet, and I dig the new banjo! My ears haven't picked up the modal sound in Jarrell's version - flat 7th sort of modality? 

RV6 - that's some excellent fiddling,  really works that drone. I like the energy out of that group!

RG - thanks for mentioning the Tiki Palor DVD. I edited a mention of it out of my post, but  I'll just say it here - if you're interested in OT music and haven't experienced that DVD, get on it, it's brilliant.

RV6 - Posted - 06/21/2017:  06:17:09

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Originally posted by Tobus

 

I always get a kick out of hearing Josh Turknett and Justin Manglitz playing it when I listen to their Georgia Jays "Round Peak, Georgia" album.



( still can't seem to properly embed videos, so here's the link)

youtu.be/kHdUjTVw8To?list=PLGK...ifeAHv7ac

 

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Thanks for the heads up on the Georgia Jays!  I really enjoy their playing and have downloaded the album from CDBaby.

Tobus - Posted - 06/21/2017:  06:44:57

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Originally posted by RV6

 

Thanks for the heads up on the Georgia Jays!  I really enjoy their playing and have downloaded the album from CDBaby.

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If you've already purchased a download from another site, it may be a moot point... 

But you can also get it directly from their band site - and there's a "banjo player's edition" which includes tabs for all the tunes on the album, as well as fiddle jam tracks (at different speeds) that you can play along with on the banjo.  I'm not affiliated with them in any way, or trying to sell their stuff for them.  But I got quite a lot out of the banjo player's edition of this album.  I wish more people would do this kind of thing when they release OT music albums.  Turning it into a learning resource is a very cool idea.  And I'm hoping Josh and Justin will come out with another album soon.

Edited by - Tobus on 06/21/2017 06:45:16