obxpix - Posted - 02/28/2017:  15:49:28

i just saw the ad for the Shure motif MV88 condenser mic made for iOS......it says for studio use, but this got me thinking....for groups that use nothing but a single mic...

With powered speakers, could an iPad now use a mic such as this, which could do a simple eq withe app on the mic, and transfer the sound to powered speakers via Bluetooth?    This would be ideal for a small bluegrass group using a single mic setup for churches and so forth....and with a nice set of powered speakers what would prohibit the sound from being really good?

eagleisland - Posted - 02/28/2017:  17:23:09

My bet is that you'd end up with just enough microseconds of latency to drive you bonkers. But I could be wrong.

obxpix - Posted - 02/28/2017:  18:19:47

Curious why?   The fact that you would use wireless speakers?

kirbonite - Posted - 02/28/2017:  18:30:24

I've recorded myself with an ipad2 and a zoom H4.   One thing to take into consideration is that the input jack and the headphone jack are the same on ipads.  so you need to get a special cable from KV electronics to sync the mic..  at least that's what I did.  I'm not familiar  the mic of which you speak perhaps it comes with such cable.

of course, I was recording not amplifying

kirbonite - Posted - 02/28/2017:  19:50:23

that mic looks badass.  I see why you might want one..  

banjoak - Posted - 03/01/2017:  04:23:41

I agree that latency will be the problem; processor converting the analog to digital; then the digital to analog. It gives a sound like room reverb, sound bouncing off of far walls.

Test it by monitoring just using headphones.

Edited by - banjoak on 03/01/2017 04:28:14

Aradobanjo - Posted - 03/01/2017:  04:29:43

Hello,

I have one. The app provided is for recording. The does have a headphone listening feature. Depending on the iOS, memory, and music set duration it could be possible. I would not expect delays in output.

Edited by - Aradobanjo on 03/01/2017 04:31:16

gospelman97 - Posted - 03/01/2017:  08:40:51

I found this on a review:

 1) the Shure app that comes with it does not recognize bluetooth headphones for realtime monitoring. You must plug-in regular phones into the iPhone jack to get that feature.

mikehalloran - Posted - 03/02/2017:  10:12:50

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Originally posted by gospelman97

 

I found this on a review:

 1) the Shure app that comes with it does not recognize bluetooth headphones for realtime monitoring. You must plug-in regular phones into the iPhone jack to get that feature.

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True. You will get latency if you do not use the Shure Motif app.

It will work with an iPhone 5 or 6. Although it records on an iPhone 7, you cannot monitor through headphones while doing so—no adapter exists that lets this happen. 

The Zoom iQ5, on the other hand, has the monitor jack built into the mic body. Zero latency and works on an iPhone 7.

I have both mics, iPads and an iPhone 7+ and I've tested all of this.

banjoak - Posted - 03/03/2017:  05:23:50

Those mic's with a built -in headphone jack, IIRC are monitoring the mic signal in analog, before it goes through digital conversion; so no latency in monitoring. I think that's what the Zoom is doing.  Does the Iphone or ipad monitor before processing? or is it just vast, very very low latency?

FWIW, doesn't  bluetooth also has latency to it?

That's what my  friend found in trying do a low tech bluetooth ear bud stage monitor.