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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: TOTW (OT) 10/02/15 - Tippin' Back The Corn


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greenbrooms - Posted - 10/02/2015:  07:54:28


Good friday morning, all!



Our first TOTW for October '15 is another one of them new-old-time tunes, written by Chicago fiddler Jordan Wankoff. I tried reaching out to Mr. Wankoff a few weeks ago (via facebook) to get some insight about the tune, but never heard back. That being said, if anyone has any history or details about the origins of this fantastic little toe-tapper, feel free to chime in!



Below I'll post a series of links to my favorite live performances and digital downloads, and I'll attach a tab by the one-and-only Ken Torke (of taterjoes.com), as well as a few of my own recordings. If you're in the Mid-Atlantic, old-time music is about as sunny and warm as it'll get out there this weekend.. so off we go!



Roger Netherton (f), Charlie Shaw (bs), Brian Slattery (bj), Rachel Eddy (g) at Clifftop 2015. This video was my introduction to the tune, and I'm probably responsible for about 100 of those YT views! These four absolutely BURN through this thing:



youtube.com/watch?v=OMIgUuemoYE



Brambling is JP Gilbert (g), Tess Clancey (f), and Alex Hills (acc). No banjo (sad), but still a super-tight performance. This is the recording I used to learn the tune:



youtube.com/watch?v=QSStC8mu27Q



Old Buck is Riley Baugus (bj), Debra Clifford (g), Emily Schaad (f), and Sabra Guzmán (ba). One live recording from YT, followed by a link to their 2013 self-titled album:



youtube.com/watch?v=Qol-aK6cT5Y



oldbuckmusic.com/store



The Horny Toad Rangers are Earnie Taft (f), Fred Moss (g), and Dean Barber (bj). Wish it was as nice a day here as it looks to be in their video:



youtube.com/watch?v=of_0MAiR8Jc



Another great recording from fiddler Lynn 'Chirps' Smith. Two links - one to listen, one to purchase:



youtube.com/watch?v=6rFX_Mlio5I



cdbaby.com/cd/lynnsmith



Last but most definitely not least, here are a few recordings from BHO's own Erich "vrteach" Schroeder and Craig "frailin" Evans:



Erich: vrteach.org/content/tippin-back-corn



Craig: vimeo.com/139810036



This is a super fun tune to play, and very easy to get lost in. I hope you guys have fun listening/learning, and like every week, I look forward to hearing what anyone else has to contribute!



Oh, and please excuse the "fuzziness" of my videos.. I recently shattered the screen on my cell phone, so the front-facing camera has some uh.. "shards" in the way of getting a clear picture.



 



 



 




Tippin' Back The Corn


VIDEO: TOTW 10/02/15 -- Tippin' Back The Corn (nylgut)
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VIDEO: TOTW 10/02/15 -- Tippin' Back The Corn (steel string)
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bhniko - Posted - 10/02/2015:  08:51:15


Always look forward to TOTW. Great tune and I can't wait till all the others join in with their interpretations. Thanks.


ScottK - Posted - 10/02/2015:  10:33:02


Great post and great picking, Kevin! Great tune choice, too. Just played this tune with Ken Torke last night at a jam here in Portland...

Scott

vrteach - Posted - 10/02/2015:  10:58:37


The first time I heard and played along with this tune was a jam at Lynn G's house back in 2006. I was newly back into music at that time and did not realize that I was seated between Jordan Wankoff and Chirps Smith! I was in the absolutely best seat in the WORLD on that day for a banjo player! We actually played the tune in G, although it seems to be more often in A. Doesn't make any difference to us capo-toting banjo players.



Tippin' Back the Corn is one of the great modern fiddle tunes.


JanetB - Posted - 10/02/2015:  11:21:20


I'm surrounded by great and joyful pickers!  Thanks for introducing me to another new tune, Kevin. 




Tippin' Back the Corn (TOTW)


Tippin' Back the Corn (CH) tab

greenbrooms - Posted - 10/02/2015:  11:39:56


that is the most relaxed and breezy rendition of TBTC i'll probably ever hear - love it, janet


Cyndy - Posted - 10/02/2015:  12:41:37


Erich wrote: "We actually played the tune in G, although it seems to be more often in A. Doesn't make any difference to us capo-toting banjo players."



I think of it as A tune, too, but I play it cross-tuned, so G or A -- both work! :)



I posted a link to this thread on Facebook and one of my friends tagged Jordan. Maybe he'll chime in.


jack_beuthin - Posted - 10/02/2015:  14:02:54


I was back in southern Wisconsin last week and joined some friends for a jam session.  Of course, Tippin' Back the Corn was in the mix.  Even though I am still learning the tune, while we played, we were looking out over a field of corn with the wind sending a gentle swell through that amber sea.  Then when it ended, someone explained that it wasn't about midwestern fields of corn, but rather about corn liquor.  That does makes more sense. Although tippin' back too much corn, may be have been the inspiration for cow tipping, which in Wisconsin often requires tippin' back the corn to get to the pasture with the unsuspecting cows.



This is also a popular tune in sessions here in the Front Range of Colorado.



Regardless, great TOTW choice!  And I hope we will learn more about the tune from Jason himself.



Edited by - jack_beuthin on 10/02/2015 14:03:37

jack_beuthin - Posted - 10/02/2015:  15:24:28


quote:

Originally posted by jack_beuthin

 

Regardless, great TOTW choice!  And I hope we will learn more about the tune from Jason himself.







Ah, I meant Jordan himself.  Maybe I should tip a little less corn before I post


J-Walk - Posted - 10/02/2015:  15:50:00


Great choice, Kevin. We've been playing this one a lot during the past month or so.



JanetB, your MP3 upload showed up in my RSS reader, but it didn't identify you as the player. But it took me about 5 seconds to know it was you. You have a very distinctive playing style. 


J-Walk - Posted - 10/02/2015:  18:39:15


This is a recording from last week. Dan Levenson on fiddle, Jerry Weinert on bass, me on guitar. No banjo, so this might be a good one to play along with.




Tippin' Back the Corn

   

Kernel - Posted - 10/02/2015:  18:49:04


It's a great tune fast or slow, A or G. A friend of ours brought it back after visiting with Chirp's Smith and since then it's been a regular in that crowd. I was happy to find Scott and others picking it in Portland. I took this as an excuse to go look at my old tab (attaced above) and update it to how I play it now. It's a little less clunky in a few parts and a little closer to the melody. Plus...I hadn't credited Jordan.



taterjoes.com/banjo/TippingBackTheCorn.pdf



And...here's a fiddle transcription as taught by Chirps in case you need to give your fiddling friends a nudge.



taterjoes.com/fiddle/TippingBa...eCorn.pdf


jack_beuthin - Posted - 10/06/2015:  06:09:31


Okay, I'm a little late to the table, but I had to get my homework done.  The choice of Tippin' Back The Corn for TOTW was a real motivator to work it through.  Here's my best shot for the moment.  Thanks Kevin for selecting this wonderful tune!



Edited by - jack_beuthin on 10/06/2015 06:10:36



Tippin' Back The Corn

   

greenbrooms - Posted - 10/06/2015:  07:23:04


holy smokes i'm glad this tune is going over well, and that it's already in rotation in jams across the country! does anyone know WHEN it was composed, or at least first recorded?



jack - i love your arrangement. i really need to re-work mine to be more like yours and janets - less "fiddle lines" on the banjo, mainly in the B part. they just end up sounding sloppy, and i feel like the tune loses a little continuity without having that chordal element behind it..



..or i could just practice more and get the lines clean big


jack_beuthin - Posted - 10/06/2015:  10:16:48


Kevin, thanks.  I will post a tab of my version as soon as I get a chance.  I too found the B part more challenging to get right on the banjo, I added some ASPOs on the first string as rhythmic fillers.  Although this tune sounds good when played fast by a fiddler or a band, I like it slowed down as a banjo solo.  Seems to have more sweetness, a la Janet's rendition.


greenbrooms - Posted - 10/06/2015:  11:26:00


quote:

Originally posted by jack_beuthin

 

Although this tune sounds good when played fast by a fiddler or a band, I like it slowed down as a banjo solo.  Seems to have more sweetness, a la Janet's rendition.







 



absolutely. i always remind myself to start things off slowly and take my time, then before i know it by the second or third time through i'm back up just trying to cook through it at jam speed. the squirrels outside don't seem too impressed either which way, and they're about the only ones listening most of the time. i'm going to make it a point to knock this one down a few notches and really try to milk it at a slower tempo.


jack_beuthin - Posted - 10/06/2015:  19:23:14


Here the tab (+/-) of my rendition above.




Tppin' Back The Corn

   

Don Huber - Posted - 10/08/2015:  20:59:51


Well, I find the "B" part of this tune deceptively tricky.

stetix01 - Posted - 10/09/2015:  04:26:07


quote:

Originally posted by JanetB

 

I'm surrounded by great and joyful pickers!  Thanks for introducing me to another new tune, Kevin. 







Janet, I'm in love!  Awesome version.


Chris Yohn - Posted - 10/12/2015:  18:03:16


Great tune! Here's my take:



Tippin' Back the Corn

   

Zischkale - Posted - 10/14/2015:  21:48:52


Beautiful tune, thanks for sharing! The melody is so rich, love the little walk down to the E chord in part A, and that sort of call-and-response repetition in part B. Lots of great renditions here, too.



This reminiscent of a polka (like German polka) to anyone else, or are my ears just biased after that cool accordion work by that Brambling group?


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