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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: TOTW 6/12/15: Cora Dye


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Adam Kiesling - Posted - 06/12/2015:  04:20:42


I probably first heard this tune a few years ago when Spring Fed Records did their initial re-issues of some Davis Unlimited LPs from the 70s. Two of the re-issued LPs were from the Indian Creek Delta Boys, a group of old time musicians from Charleston, IL, who spent a lot of time looking up and recording older fiddlers in the state of Illinois. Most of the tunes (and there are a lot of great ones!) that the Delta Boys played were learned from these fiddlers. Cora Dye was recorded for their second album, and you can listen to a sample of it here. (I highly recommend both albums by the way).



Garry Harrison, the fiddler of the Delta Boys, compiled a tune/song book in the early 2000s called Dear Old Illinois that featured tunes and songs from Illinois. A 3 CD set of the field recordings they had made back in the 70s was also available. Sadly, both the CD and book have been out of print for a while, but is supposedly due for a repress in the near future. Cora Dye is one of the tunes in the book, and was originally played by Jim Reed of Benton, IL. The notes in the book state that it was "learned by Mr. Reed from its namesake, a Benton area musician who was said to have played it on the guitar." You can listen to an mp3 of Mr. Reed playing Cora Dye here.



I recently revisited the tune after hearing (and listening repeatedly to) Dan Gellert's masterful banjo version on his latest release, the DVD and CD he made for the Old-Time Tiki Parlour. (I also highly recommend this one). From the liner notes that were written by Christopher Berry: "Musically the tune sounds like one of the many offshoots of the "Shoot the Turkey Buzzard" family; this setting shares its melody with "Old Sage Friend" recorded for the Library of Congress by legendary black string band Gribble, Lusk and York. Dan here plays in F position out of "sawmill" tuning with the fifth string tuned down a step, which works well for playing tunes originally in G on the fiddle."



Here's an mp3 of Old Sage Friend as played by Gribble, Lusk and York. It can also be found on a compilation of African-American string band music entitled "Altamont - Black Stringband Music from the Library of Congress."



Here's some tab for Cora Dye in G standard courtesy of the folks at Mossy Roof.



Lastly, here's a video I made on my Menzies tackhead. I'm in standard tuning, but tuned down to C or so.



youtu.be/qr6AP6uL9Ew



Edited by - Adam Kiesling on 06/12/2015 04:29:42



Cora Dye

   

mworden - Posted - 06/12/2015:  06:29:07


Delightful!


richmberman - Posted - 06/12/2015:  09:15:44


Love the tune,(it's new to me), and your youtube video is terrific. It's on my learn today list. Thanks!

greenbrooms - Posted - 06/12/2015:  12:36:40


beautiful tune! looking forward to working on it. that tackhead sounds great - after hearing this audio and recently discovering Prust banjos, my "itch" for one is getting worse and worse..


ramblin - Posted - 06/12/2015:  13:57:56


Nicely played! Who doesn't love a tackhead?



This tune got stuck in my head earlier this year...  I recorded this, and it's mainly the tune, but I'm also goofing off a bit...



youtu.be/DhWWqUj2HjQ


vrteach - Posted - 06/12/2015:  16:24:26


I first heard Cora Dye from a posting by the long-absent bassman in 2007. The next year I got the Indian Creek Delta Boys album, and then recorded my version, included below. I don't play the tune anywhere near as much as I wish I did.



Edited by - vrteach on 06/12/2015 16:28:09



Cora Dye

   

JanetB - Posted - 06/13/2015:  08:07:30


Adam, your banjo and style give it the just-right old-time feel.  Frankie and Erich's good versions help me get the tune in my head.  In attempting to learn it I also found a Dan Gellert video and listened to Adam's Hurt lovely version on his "Fine Times at our House" CD.  I ended up learning from the Illinois fiddler Jim Reed on the "Dear Old Illinois" CD.  I'll be glad when it's re-released to get the liner notes and learn more from this historic set.



 



 





Here's Adam Hurt's exquisitely syncopated Cora Dye:  cdbaby.com/cd/adamhurt4 



Hope you enjoy my first attempts at this fine tune.  The other tuning (gEADE) makes for easier playing, so perhaps I'll work on a tab for it later.




Cora Dye (TOTW)


Cora Dye (CH) tab

JanetB - Posted - 06/13/2015:  08:39:53


And here's an easier tab with tuning for the key of G when capoed 2:




Cora Dye (CH) tab in fDGCD tuning

   

Adam Kiesling - Posted - 06/13/2015:  09:24:05


I'm really liking the other versions!



Here's another video of Dan Gellert playing it on a fretless banjo:



youtu.be/tButoruSMDc


Cyndy - Posted - 06/14/2015:  09:43:45


Nice coincidence. Cora Dye is the tune I've been noodling on the porch over the last few weeks and so, selfishly speaking, the chance to hear everyone else's take on it it kind of nice! smiley



I learned it as a fiddle tune back in Illinois--it seems like it was a standard in Chicago--and so when I started experimenting with it, I tuned in G. It wasn't until a couple of weeks ago that I realized Dan plays it in fDGCD and as soon as I tried it that way, it was like, "Yes! Of course."



To me, Cora Dye seems to fall into a category of tunes that will never get old because they leave so much room to explore--and those are my favorites.


greenbrooms - Posted - 06/14/2015:  11:41:30


here goes nothing, first TOTW submission-- a little rough around the edges, but that's okay. this is such a fun tune to play with, thanks so much for the introduction, adam!





youtube.com/watch?v=RIY4142xfVg


bhniko - Posted - 06/15/2015:  15:32:39


Wonderful music...thanks to all.

 


CamC - Posted - 06/18/2015:  09:24:17


Here's my attempt on my new little c-scale. (Ignore the first 20 seconds)youtu.be/Fw-NtVYYDr4


richmberman - Posted - 06/19/2015:  02:36:45


Adam, I tuned my open G banjo way down to C in order to play along with you and learn the tune and now I find myself lowering the pitch

for lots of tunes. I really like that  thumpy sound. Thanks again.



Edited by - richmberman on 06/19/2015 02:38:27

Adam Kiesling - Posted - 06/19/2015:  07:13:44


Rich, I use gut strings on my tackhead that are meant to be tuned that low. Every once a while, though, I'll tune my steel string banjo down that low. Pretty floppy, but it's fun to mess around with.


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