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banjoike - Posted - 08/15/2013: 10:42:37
War on Women!
Hankon5 - Posted - 08/15/2013: 11:09:43
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Originally posted by KE
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Originally posted by Hankon5
Oprah retracted her statement,,,,she lied! This was for self serving reasons. I knew it sounded a bit odd.
Did she lie, or did she take the classy route and choose to let it drop? Here's what she actually said:
“I think that incident in Switzerland was just an incident in Switzerland. I’m really sorry that it got blown up. I purposefully did not mention the name of the store. I’m sorry that I said it was Switzerland,” Winfrey said, speaking at the premier of Lee Daniels’ “The Butler.”
Swiss tourism officials and the boutique owner apologized for the incident last week, but Winfrey insists there’s no need.
“It’s not an indictment against the country or even that store,” she said. “It was just one person who didn’t want to offer me the opportunity to see the bag. So no apologies necessary from the country of Switzerland. If somebody makes a mistake in the United States do we apologize in front of the whole country? No!”
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You think she would admit it!!! She would lose all the credibility she had left..which is very little!
It's like Jackson Jr. saying" I didn't do it"!! GUILTY! 30 months!
Edited by - Hankon5 on 08/15/2013 11:12:16
Louisiana Rose - Posted - 08/15/2013: 11:11:01
I never buy handbags, i just wait for one of my elder sisters to pass their unwanted and usually almost new ones on to me along with their shoes lol
mullie1 - Posted - 08/15/2013: 11:18:56
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Originally posted by Hankon5
.....It's like Jackson Jr. saying" I didn't do it"!! GUILTY! 30 months!
Why on earth would you choose to compare Jesse Jackson, Jr's actions with this event???
KE - Posted - 08/15/2013: 11:27:39
And there you have it! When someone says WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there's very little point in continuing the discussion. 
KE - Posted - 08/15/2013: 11:28:33
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Originally posted by mullie1
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Originally posted by Hankon5
.....It's like Jackson Jr. saying" I didn't do it"!! GUILTY! 30 months!
Why on earth would you choose to compare Jesse Jackson, Jr's actions with this event???
They do have a lot in common.
ballinvillonOLD - Posted - 08/15/2013: 11:47:43
I don't know what all the fuss is about.....always buy my handbags in Switzerland....never had a problem.....and mine cost a lot more than that trashy thing.
Deaf Lester Crawdad - Posted - 08/15/2013: 12:10:47
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Originally posted by fivebranch
She didn't mention the store. No need to apologize. Then what in the world was she trying to accomplish with these allegations?
She was most likely pointing out the fact that black people; even really really rich black people, often get treated very very differently than white people -because of the color of their skin.
Need I tell you again about my friend the very well-off black lawyer who bought himself a brand-new and very expensive black BMW sports sedan and was then pulled over repeatedly by cops who'd profiled him as a car thief merely by seeing a black guy drive past in a $100,000 car?
mbuk06 - Posted - 08/15/2013: 12:14:41
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Originally posted by KE
I wonder who the "desperate, attention-seeking, materialistic snob(s)" were who bought one of these:
At $55,000, you could buy the purse and have $13,000 left over for a "pretty nice" but lesser banjo.
Personally I think there is a huge distinction in rationale between buying an expensive handbag and an expensive musical instrument. A $38,000 handbag performs the exact same practical function as a $380 handbag. But ask any concert violinist and they will gladly explain in minute detail the difference in functionality of a $2m Stradivarius and a $200 violin.
Of course people can spend their money however they want. But in regard to excessively frivilous and superficial extravagance it's also only realistic to expect that their choices will draw less-than-flattering conclusions.
Deaf Lester Crawdad - Posted - 08/15/2013: 12:15:19
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Originally posted by Hankon5
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Originally posted by KE
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Originally posted by Hankon5
Oprah retracted her statement,,,,she lied! This was for self serving reasons. I knew it sounded a bit odd.
Did she lie, or did she take the classy route and choose to let it drop? Here's what she actually said:
“I think that incident in Switzerland was just an incident in Switzerland. I’m really sorry that it got blown up. I purposefully did not mention the name of the store. I’m sorry that I said it was Switzerland,” Winfrey said, speaking at the premier of Lee Daniels’ “The Butler.”
Swiss tourism officials and the boutique owner apologized for the incident last week, but Winfrey insists there’s no need.
“It’s not an indictment against the country or even that store,” she said. “It was just one person who didn’t want to offer me the opportunity to see the bag. So no apologies necessary from the country of Switzerland. If somebody makes a mistake in the United States do we apologize in front of the whole country? No!”
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You think she would admit it!!! She would lose all the credibility she had left..which is very little!
It's like Jackson Jr. saying" I didn't do it"!! GUILTY! 30 months!
And how is it that you came to know Oprah so well that you know what she did for a fact without even having been there or spoken to either Oprah or the store employees?
One would almost think that you'd decided on the outcome before ever hearing of the event in question....
Isn't there a word for that?
Paul R - Posted - 08/15/2013: 12:27:38
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Originally posted by Deaf Lester Crawdad
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Originally posted by fivebranch
She didn't mention the store. No need to apologize. Then what in the world was she trying to accomplish with these allegations?
She was most likely pointing out the fact that black people; even really really rich black people, often get treated very very differently than white people -because of the color of their skin.
Need I tell you again about my friend the very well-off black lawyer who bought himself a brand-new and very expensive black BMW sports sedan and was then pulled over repeatedly by cops who'd profiled him as a car thief merely by seeing a black guy drive past in a $100,000 car?
Or a colleague who gave me a lift home. On the way, we saw a Mercedes driven by a black man. The colleague exclaimed, "We know how he makes his money!" Implication: drug dealer. Then came the follow-up: "I'm not racist! I'm not racist!" Sure. None of us are, are we?
mullie1 - Posted - 08/15/2013: 12:46:21
Imagine if he had just finished working out and was wearing a hoodie?!
Deaf Lester Crawdad - Posted - 08/15/2013: 12:50:54
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Originally posted by Paul R
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Originally posted by Deaf Lester Crawdad
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Originally posted by fivebranch
She didn't mention the store. No need to apologize. Then what in the world was she trying to accomplish with these allegations?
She was most likely pointing out the fact that black people; even really really rich black people, often get treated very very differently than white people -because of the color of their skin.
Need I tell you again about my friend the very well-off black lawyer who bought himself a brand-new and very expensive black BMW sports sedan and was then pulled over repeatedly by cops who'd profiled him as a car thief merely by seeing a black guy drive past in a $100,000 car?
Or a colleague who gave me a lift home. On the way, we saw a Mercedes driven by a black man. The colleague exclaimed, "We know how he makes his money!" Implication: drug dealer. Then came the follow-up: "I'm not racist! I'm not racist!" Sure. None of us are, are we?
In fact, I think that there's probably a little of that in all of us: irrespective of our color. The differences lie in how we react to our own racism when we catch ourselves indulging in it.
As a Latino friend of mine put it: "There's special credit to be given to those who successfully fight off their ingrained prejudices. The rare person who was raised without prejudice can only claim to be doing what comes naturally, while the guy who has to make a serious effort to control his gut reactions -because he learned later on in life that they were utterly wrong- deserves recognition for fighting the good fight."
"Likewise, the person who, upon finding himself acting like a bigot, immediately starts rationalizing multiple excuses for his behavior reveals that he knows he's wrong deep inside. There'd be no reason to cook up excuses otherwise."
Brian T - Posted - 08/15/2013: 19:57:25
Let's be reasonable, please. She grossed $77million in the last 12 months. It's unfair for any of us to judge what's expensive or what's not expensive for the people who bat in that league. What the Hello is $38 kilobucks?
fivebranch - Posted - 08/15/2013: 20:04:41
I think Ophra could have saved herself all this by explaining to the clerk who she was. Not everybody in the world has heard of Ophra and to even think that way is a little egotistical don't you think??
fivebranch - Posted - 08/15/2013: 20:44:29
See now there you go I don't even know how to spell Oprah's name and she maybe expecting the shop clerk to know who she is DOH!!
Edited by - fivebranch on 08/15/2013 20:45:26
mbuk06 - Posted - 08/16/2013: 00:53:22
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Originally posted by Brian T
Let's be reasonable, please. She grossed $77million in the last 12 months. It's unfair for any of us to judge what's expensive or what's not expensive for the people who bat in that league.
This then raises a subsiduary question; are you saying that being super-wealthy implies that a person automatically loses a sense of true value and proportion?
Surely, even if you have assets of $100 million a handbag is still an astonishing rip-off at $38,000?
dat - Posted - 08/16/2013: 06:27:22
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Originally posted by mbuk06
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Originally posted by Brian T
Let's be reasonable, please. She grossed $77million in the last 12 months. It's unfair for any of us to judge what's expensive or what's not expensive for the people who bat in that league.
This then raises a subsiduary question; are you saying that being super-wealthy implies that a person automatically loses a sense of true value and proportion?
Surely, even if you have assets of $100 million a handbag is still an astonishing rip-off at $38,000?
I can't say anything about the wealthy, but I'm more likely to buy a rib eye right after payday than to start out with beans and rice 
mullie1 - Posted - 08/16/2013: 06:44:12
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Originally posted by fivebranch
See now there you go I don't even know how to spell Oprah's name and she maybe expecting the shop clerk to know who she is DOH!!
It is astounding that some people continue to completely miss the point. Oprah didn't expect the clerk to know "who she was". Far from it. Her point was that the clerk steered her away from an expensive handbag because of the assumption that "she obviously couldn't afford such an expensive handbag" due to the way she looked/skin color. Oprah took the high road and apologized that her reply to an interviewer's question caused the event to be blown out of proportion - due to the actions of one retail clerk.
Brian T - Posted - 08/16/2013: 07:20:18
OK, so $38k might still be a lot to someone of her economic position. She might have really wanted to get all snazzed up for Tina's wedding. I doubt that it was a black T-shirt & jeans event.
Leslie R - Posted - 08/16/2013: 07:33:53
I've about had it up to here with this racist business. It has become something I don't quite understand but I think it has spread beyond disliking someone based on their skin color.
I don't really know what a racist is. But I do know you dont want to be labeled as racist, your life can be ruined. With that much to fear, it can be used to bully others and it can be exploited for a variety of purposes.
I think, based solely on the fear of having your life ruined, or worse, most people will do back flips to avoid being labeled a racist.
Some of you might want to sit down.
If someone has an inherent dislike for others, based solely on their skin color, I don't really care. What goes on in someone else's head is really none of my business.
Now if that person acts out on that inherent dislike in a harmful manner, I do care, and I would care a lot. It would make no difference what color the perpetrators skin color is. Harming another human on the basis of skin color is simply evil. In fact, harming anyone, in any manner, for any reason other than defense is sick and twisted.
mullie1 - Posted - 08/16/2013: 07:47:21
I've had it with this racist business too. If by "harming" you mean denying rights, physically or mentally abusing, demeaning, bullying, treating as a lesser human, or acting to encourage any type of racial hate.....then I am in complete agreement. To stay silent when witnessing ignorant racism or bigotry is just as bad. Being falsel labeled a racist is terrible. Being the victim of racism can be even worse. This country has not really come as far as we would hope with this subject in recent years sadly.
Leslie R - Posted - 08/16/2013: 08:11:02
"Being falsely labeled a racist is terrible".
I would disagree. I reject the premise that it is acceptable to label anyone a racist, period.
That's like saying being falsely being labeled a witch, a non-believer, or whatever social pariah is in vogue, is terrible.
If someone has been proven guilty in a court of law of violating a criminal offense, they can be labeled a criminal.
Voyageur - Posted - 08/16/2013: 08:12:12
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Originally posted by mbuk06
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Originally posted by KE
I wonder who the "desperate, attention-seeking, materialistic snob(s)" were who bought one of these:
At $55,000, you could buy the purse and have $13,000 left over for a "pretty nice" but lesser banjo.
Personally I think there is a huge distinction in rationale between buying an expensive handbag and an expensive musical instrument. A $38,000 handbag performs the exact same practical function as a $380 handbag. But ask any concert violinist and they will gladly explain in minute detail the difference in functionality of a $2m Stradivarius and a $200 violin.
Of course people can spend their money however they want. But in regard to excessively frivilous and superficial extravagance it's also only realistic to expect that their choices will draw less-than-flattering conclusions.
Your math is off with this analogy. A $38,000 handbag costs 100 times as much as a $380 handbag. A $2,000,000 violin costs 10,000 times more than a $200 violin.
Just needed to say that.
Voyageur - Posted - 08/16/2013: 08:36:27
Oprah Winfrey has for many years been credited as being one of the most generous public figures, and the most generous "entertainment" celebrity giver. She has given several hundred million dollars to various causes.
If you google this, you will find it's true, and you will also find lots of comments from people saying she only does this for the publicity or for tax purposes. Or that the causes she supports are not "real" or "important" causes, or that her causes favor blacks and are therefore racist. People don't seem as annoyed by charitable donations from Bill Gates. Why is that, do you think?
This is what I think. I think it just simply pisses off a lot of white people that a black woman is so successful. They won't admit it, just like they won't admit that when that black man in the $100,000 car drives past them as they go along in their old beater, they are annoyed, and say he must have earned it with drug money. It's not just envy of the car; it's envy that a black person has the car.
If you are white, imagine two gorgeous automobiles drive past. One is being driven by a middle-aged white man in a business suit. The other is driven by a black woman with a big hairdo and flashy jewelry. Do you feel exactly the same about both? Just think about it for awhile and be honest with yourself. I consider myself to be very liberal, but I admit I would respond a little differently to each scenario.
Racism goes so deep in the USA. Yes, accusations of racism are sometimes false, and that is wrong and horrible. But it is not hard for me to understand how things got this way, because racism is woven so tightly into our national fabric. It is the great tragic flaw of our nation, and I wonder if it can ever truly be eradicated.
ballinvillonOLD - Posted - 08/16/2013: 09:20:08
Am I the only person on this forum who thinks that.....even considering buying a $ 38,000 handbag is Obscene...with a capital O.......regardless of who they are, or think they are.
I am unemployed,and have no hope of getting work in this economy.....at 55... I may never work again.
I reckon with $ 38,000, I could feed my wife and two children for......FIVE YEARS.
Frostymama - Posted - 08/16/2013: 10:23:32
Ok, this conversation touches on a pet peeve of mine, because words have meanings yet are often misused. Folks seem to use "racist", "bigot", and "prejudiced" interchangeably. They each mean separate things (although one certainly can be a prejudiced, racist bigot).
-If you are a racist, you inherently believe that another race is genetically inferior to your own.
-If you are a bigot, you just flat out don't like that person because of his/her differences. You may not believe them to be genetically inferior (or you may), but at a minimum, you just don't like that person regardless.
-If you are prejudiced, you've pre-judged that person before knowing him or her. Could be you think him/her to be genetically inferior, maybe not. But you've made assumptions about that person without the facts.
So, in this case, who can truly say that clerk is racist? We don't know how she feels in her heart about people of other races. But we do know she pre-judged Oprah as someone who couldn't afford a $38k handbag and so thereby at a minimum, is prejudiced. I'm guessing she probably lost out on a hefty commission, too.
Dagnabbit - Posted - 08/16/2013: 12:39:18
The clerk denies Oprah's story as does the store owner who says that Oprah's version of events is a fabrication at worst or a misunderstanding by Oprah at best. In their version, Oprah declined to see the bag at issue despite an offer to show it to her.
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Andy Campbell - Posted - 08/16/2013: 13:06:12
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Originally posted by Dagnabbit
The clerk denies Oprah's story as does the store owner who says that Oprah's version of events is a fabrication at worst or a misunderstanding by Oprah at best. In their version, Oprah declined to see the bag at issue despite an offer to show it to her.
That is very strange. The BBC news had an interview, in English, of the store owner humbly apologising to Oprah W. She obviously believed what was being said.
Edited by - Andy Campbell on 08/16/2013 13:08:01
fivebranch - Posted - 08/16/2013: 15:13:24
Oh.... The Handbags in Switzerland are staying on the shelves
They are so expensive you can't afford one yourself
Oprah was rattled we the clerk would not let her seeeeeee
The handbag that calls for high price luxury
Oh those handbags... those handbags
We all can agree....They're to darn expensive for a poor folk such as me.......
But not for Oprahhhhhhhhh Winferyyyyy
So is she boasting about her wealth?
Dagnabbit - Posted - 08/16/2013: 15:51:24
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Originally posted by Andy Campbell
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Originally posted by Dagnabbit
The clerk denies Oprah's story as does the store owner who says that Oprah's version of events is a fabrication at worst or a misunderstanding by Oprah at best. In their version, Oprah declined to see the bag at issue despite an offer to show it to her.
That is very strange. The BBC news had an interview, in English, of the store owner humbly apologising to Oprah W. She obviously believed what was being said.
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2...-row.html
KE - Posted - 08/16/2013: 16:02:30
I wish Oprah still had her show, so we could watch the Christmas give-away episode (and I'd really like to be there, not that I'm greedy -- okay I'm greedy.)
"You get a bag, and YOU get a bag . . . and EVERYBODY GETS BAGS."
fivebranch - Posted - 08/16/2013: 20:25:40
Put a knife in it and it will cut the cheese. Concealed weapon.
mbuk06 - Posted - 08/17/2013: 00:04:49
I'm wary of making a judgement on what prompted this store owner to act as she did. Or make any comments on the prevalence of racism in Switzerland.
However if this incident had occurred in neighboring Austria it wouldn't have surprised me one little bit. I've traveled in that country and all I can say is that the open intolerance, xenophobia and ultra-conservatism on display there is astonishing. It's nasty and oppressive. I experienced it on multiple occasions as did fellow travelers from many different countries. One example: I met and chatted with a bunch of young New Zealanders on a railway station platform in Innsbruck as they were leaving who were visibly shocked and said exactly the same thing; 'What is up with these people? Never again'. Austria is a beautiful country in terms of landscape but with a festering intolerance behind that natural beauty. Maybe as a consequence of an inward, insular nature they don't realize how their actions are perceived by visitors? Rudeness I can roll with; but intolerance turns my stomach. I swore I'd never set foot across their border again. Period.
And to allay the accusation that I'm guilty of my own prejudice clearly not every individual national is equally culpable. There are decent Austrians. Individual acts of unpleasantness can happen anywhere. But there is also such a thing as a prevalent culture.
Edited by - mbuk06 on 08/17/2013 00:13:57
Dagnabbit - Posted - 08/17/2013: 05:36:03
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Originally posted by mbuk06
I'm wary of making a judgement on what prompted this store owner to act as she did. Or make any comments on the prevalence of racism in Switzerland...
How is it you know what the shop owner (who wasn't directly involved according to all reports) or the clerk did? They categorically deny the accusations made by the poor oppressed multi-billionaire, who has traded on hyped up nonsense many times in the past. Oprah's account came by way of an interview where she was promoting her movie that not coincidentally has a huge racial component. Constructing such a tale would be in her self interest.
Of course the shop owner apologizes. How could they do otherwise consistent with her self interest regardless of the facts? But what did the shop owner apologize for? Not for denying to show the handbag, Not for discriminating against her or anyone else in any way. She has a vested interest in showing ridiculously priced handbags to the ridiculously self absorbed.
ballinvillonOLD - Posted - 08/18/2013: 04:13:27
Looks like the handbag has stayed in Switzerland......along with all of that Nazi gold.
mbuk06 - Posted - 08/18/2013: 08:53:13
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Originally posted by Dagnabbit
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Originally posted by mbuk06
I'm wary of making a judgement on what prompted this store owner to act as she did. Or make any comments on the prevalence of racism in Switzerland...
How is it you know what the shop owner (who wasn't directly involved according to all reports) or the clerk did? They categorically deny the accusations made by the poor oppressed multi-billionaire, who has traded on hyped up nonsense many times in the past. Oprah's account came by way of an interview where she was promoting her movie that not coincidentally has a huge racial component. Constructing such a tale would be in her self interest.
Of course the shop owner apologizes. How could they do otherwise consistent with her self interest regardless of the facts? But what did the shop owner apologize for? Not for denying to show the handbag, Not for discriminating against her or anyone else in any way. She has a vested interest in showing ridiculously priced handbags to the ridiculously self absorbed.
??? if you actually read and understood my comment the meaning is plain as day that I said that I don't know what prompted the shopkeeper's action.
But then I can hardly expect attention to detail from someone who is quite so quick to dismiss prejudice on the basis that the victim has 'invented' the story. That's a masterclass in cynicism.
Dagnabbit - Posted - 08/18/2013: 10:46:42
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Originally posted by mbuk06
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Originally posted by Dagnabbit
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Originally posted by mbuk06
I'm wary of making a judgement on what prompted this store owner to act as she did. Or make any comments on the prevalence of racism in Switzerland...
How is it you know what the shop owner (who wasn't directly involved according to all reports) or the clerk did? They categorically deny the accusations made by the poor oppressed multi-billionaire, who has traded on hyped up nonsense many times in the past. Oprah's account came by way of an interview where she was promoting her movie that not coincidentally has a huge racial component. Constructing such a tale would be in her self interest.
Of course the shop owner apologizes. How could they do otherwise consistent with her self interest regardless of the facts? But what did the shop owner apologize for? Not for denying to show the handbag, Not for discriminating against her or anyone else in any way. She has a vested interest in showing ridiculously priced handbags to the ridiculously self absorbed.
??? if you actually read and understood my comment the meaning is plain as day that I said that I don't know what prompted the shopkeeper's action.
But then I can hardly expect attention to detail from someone who is quite so quick to dismiss prejudice on the basis that the victim has 'invented' the story. That's a masterclass in cynicism.
I read and understood exactly what you meant.
"I'm wary of making a judgement on what prompted this store owner to act as she did." I'll pose the exact same question I asked before without an answer. How is it you know what the shop owner (who wasn't directly involved according to all reports) or the clerk did? The versions of the encounter are in absolute dispute.
The lack of carte blanche acceptance of a self serving account from a multi-billionaire is not a dismissal of prejudice. It is a simple acknowledgement that there are competing accounts that are diametrically opposed.
I could just as easily impugn your motives and try to make the issue at hand something other than the facts. Why are you simply dismissing the version of events as described by the immigrant shop girl? Should she know her place? Respect her betters?
fivebranch - Posted - 08/18/2013: 10:53:02
I think Oprah may be backing off because she is so wealthy that it may come across as a turn off to the not so rich fans of her.
mullie1 - Posted - 08/18/2013: 12:04:13
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Originally posted by fivebranch
I think Oprah may be backing off because she is so wealthy that it may come across as a turn off to the not so rich fans of her.
Actually Oprah immediately issued an apology because the media blew it out of proportion and the act of one sales clerk began to become an indictment on the store and the country of Switzerland. I don't think any of her fans gave a fig regarding her initial response and most of them probably understood. The right wing media won't let it go. Typical.
TB-4 Guy - Posted - 08/18/2013: 19:29:14
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Originally posted by mbuk06
I'm wary of making a judgement on what prompted this store owner to act as she did. Or make any comments on the prevalence of racism in Switzerland.
However if this incident had occurred in neighboring Austria it wouldn't have surprised me one little bit. I've traveled in that country and all I can say is that the open intolerance, xenophobia and ultra-conservatism on display there is astonishing. It's nasty and oppressive. I experienced it on multiple occasions as did fellow travelers from many different countries. One example: I met and chatted with a bunch of young New Zealanders on a railway station platform in Innsbruck as they were leaving who were visibly shocked and said exactly the same thing; 'What is up with these people? Never again'. Austria is a beautiful country in terms of landscape but with a festering intolerance behind that natural beauty. Maybe as a consequence of an inward, insular nature they don't realize how their actions are perceived by visitors? Rudeness I can roll with; but intolerance turns my stomach. I swore I'd never set foot across their border again. Period.
And to allay the accusation that I'm guilty of my own prejudice clearly not every individual national is equally culpable. There are decent Austrians. Individual acts of unpleasantness can happen anywhere. But there is also such a thing as a prevalent culture.
This is utter nonsense. Apparently you had a bad experience and thus you feel empowered to write off a whole nation. I've traveled in Austria extensively when visiting my relatives. You need to temper your comments since they are mere generalizations from some bad experience that you had.
I'm glad that you won't visit there anymore. I do know that the Austrians do not suffer fools lightly.
Edited by - TB-4 Guy on 08/18/2013 19:29:58
mbuk06 - Posted - 08/19/2013: 03:21:19
TB-4 you should really learn to read and understand an entire post before jumping in with a histrionic (and inaccurate) reply. Congratulation on being able to get both feet in your mouth at the same time though. Kind've impressive in it's own way. But an intelligent response would've been more impressive.
For the record this was my experience backed up by the unsolicited experiences of a number of fellow visitors. Subjective? Yes obviously. But I've also travelled widely and the multiple instances of intolerance in Austria are unique in my eerience and thus fair comment. Hey maybe you should be more tolerant.
Edited by - mbuk06 on 08/19/2013 03:30:04
mike gregory - Posted - 08/19/2013: 04:40:57
Yeah, them Austrians, with their kangaroos and koalas and all the time saying "G'day, mate!" even if they have absolutely no intention of actually mating with you, and now they won't sell Okra a handbag.
Oh, wait.
Looks like I jumped in without reading all 4 pages.
Never mind.
JEA13 - Posted - 08/19/2013: 05:37:59
Mike: I heard Swiss nuns carry those type of handbags because they are holey.
TB-4 Guy - Posted - 08/19/2013: 06:13:34
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Originally posted by mbuk06
TB-4 you should really learn to read and understand an entire post before jumping in with a histrionic (and inaccurate) reply. Congratulation on being able to get both feet in your mouth at the same time though. Kind've impressive in it's own way. But an intelligent response would've been more impressive.
For the record this was my experience backed up by the unsolicited experiences of a number of fellow visitors. Subjective? Yes obviously. But I've also travelled widely and the multiple instances of intolerance in Austria are unique in my eerience and thus fair comment. Hey maybe you should be more tolerant.
Your post istands alone in this thread and is completely irrelevant to the issue of Swiss Handbags. You would like a more intelligent response. Here you go, your post is stupid.
mbuk06 - Posted - 08/19/2013: 08:14:40
Outrageous slur. I consider myself as relevant to a Swiss handbag as the next man...or woman.
...and you missed the bit about hamsters and elderberries.
What if that handbag were carried across the border into Austria? Kind've an accessory-Anschluss? Would I be relevant then?
Edited by - mbuk06 on 08/19/2013 08:30:34
kipperr - Posted - 08/19/2013: 09:13:32
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Originally posted by mbuk06
Outrageous slur. I consider myself as relevant to a Swiss handbag as the next man...or woman.
I gotta back up Mike here.
I have found his knowledge of Swiss handbags to be quite extensive.
Frostymama - Posted - 08/19/2013: 09:20:44
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Originally posted by mbuk06
...and you missed the bit about hamsters and elderberries.
I completely missed the part about hamsters. Are we talking about my girls' hamsters? Or Swiss racist hamsters? I'm confused...
:-)
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