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g3zdm - Posted - 02/12/2013: 13:33:40
My very 1st go at recording 2 instruments together.
The crash a few seconds from the end is my wife inadvertently opening the door.
The tune was written in 1805 by Scots fiddler Niel Gow and was a nice air (until I murdered it 
)..
Chris Muriel, Manchester, UK
 Niel Gow's Lament for his 2nd wife - guitar and banjo |
bd - Posted - 02/12/2013: 14:59:48
Heck, I liked it. Must a been more like GBH than murder!
Seriously though, that's a tough one to try to render on a banjo & ya did a good job. And the slamming door gave me a laugh.
g3zdm - Posted - 02/14/2013: 03:02:18
I should add that I used my new Zoom H2N to record both tracks separately and then simply imported both into Audacity.
No tweaks made and no animals were harmed in its production :-) ...
I had a couple of emails via BHO asking if I had tablature to which the answer is no; I used the sheet music. Banjo is in D out of open G tuning. Guitar is in C capoed up 2 to play in D.
From the original abc file for the tune, I transposed the sheet music to a key of C version using an online ABC transposer version for the guitar part. I use ABC Explorer (free) software to make PDF files in sheet
music form. I also transposed the original sheet music up 1 octave in order for it to work on the banjo.
Chris Muriel
drifter - Posted - 02/14/2013: 10:06:13
i have seen the tabs in one of Ken Perlman's books. Can look it up if anyone is interested. The two tracks seemed a bit out of sync. Did you play one while listening to the other?
banjukebox - Posted - 02/16/2013: 07:14:09
I've tried to learn this one in the past, but never have had any luck. You do a great job.
JanetB - Posted - 02/16/2013: 12:03:52
It sure is a lovely tune, Chris, and when I learn it one day I'll thank you for introducing me to it. You're farther along than I am in recording and combining two tracks. Maybe this can inspire me to try with my Zoom recorder, too. Did you use a headphone while listening to the first track? Can the Zoom recorder combine them without going to Audacity?
g3zdm - Posted - 02/17/2013: 03:09:50
Thanks for the various comments and observations.
I couldn't see a way to combine on the Zoom itself.
I transferred both tracks as MP3s to my PC. Then I imported both into Audacity and made sure both tracks started at the same time.
I played the guitar part originally whilst listening to the banjo track in headphones - but I obviously either didn't time my guitar playing version perfectly - maybe I should have used a metronome or click track- or there was a built in timing lag that I failed to compensate for.
I suppose with clever enough software it might be possible to look for the peaks at each note (via spectral analysis) and artificially try to align them; that would require some expensive studio type software.
The real solution would do redo both with better timing but I was lazy and time limited; I also wonder whether there were any delays built into monitoring versus my playing, either in brain reactions or real delays.
I'm just learning how to use all these electronic tools.
Chris Muriel, Manchester
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