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picKen - Posted - 12/15/2012: 13:31:44
There is a law prohibiting guns in school. I can't believe that guy disobeyed it..Bad people are going to do bad things to people no matter what. Responsible Americans far out number the bad guys. If more responsible Americans would carry their firearms instead of fearing to do so we could help protect those who cannot protect themselves. Time and time again these murderers are allowed to fire at will until they run out of ammo without a single bullet fired in their direction. If I thought for a second any kind of gun control would stop these tragic incidents from happening, I'd gladly turn over every single one I one. But that is not our reality.
dmiller - Posted - 12/15/2012: 13:35:35
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Originally posted by plunknplinkntwang
Why waste effort & resource trying to stuff this genie back in the bottle? These outrages are mass killings, not the individual killed at home or on the street. The sickener is the premeditated ambush of a large number of innocents so that some crank can make their point.
It would be more effective and probably acceptable to the broad majority to make public buildings and enclosures gun free zones. Keep people safe where they expect to be safe, schools, cinemas, shopping malls & the like with similar security arrangements as airports.
Sadly - - this is not the "more effective" method. All of the recent (and past) mass shootings have occurred in that very environment (i.e. - - "gun free" zones.) The law abiding citizen will adhere to the rules, whereas the one bent on destruction will not. The only thing that a "gun free" zone guarantees (to me) is the fact that there is an unarmed populace there at the mercy of whatever crackpot who might decide to "attack them where they are safe".
I have no answers on how to "weed out" the crack pots who initiate violence on innocent people but until a viable method is found, I'm not in favor of "gun free" zones since those venues seem to attract the miscreants like a mouse to the cheese. With the possibility of guns being present (other than the ones carried by the intruder) is an entity to be considered and very real probability, the intruder takes his violent "message" elsewhere where he'll encounter "no interference". I fail to understand why this simple fact is so hard for some folks to grasp.
Dagnabbit - Posted - 12/15/2012: 13:56:44
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Originally posted by Gymbal31
The Founding Fathers considered slaves 3/5ths of a person, thought the president should be allowed to run for his office as many times as he wants, and that it wasn't appropriate for women to vote. They weren't always right.
But they also knew things would change and that the Constitution should change as well.
The founding fathers did not consider slaves to be 3/5ths of a person except for the purpose of determining congressional representation and tax apportionment. Those opposed to slavery didn't want slaves considered as anything at all, while pro-slavery representatives wanted them to be considered as full persons.
While I favor term limits for all federal elective and many appointed offices, I don't particularly see where the 22nd amendment as having had any appreciable benefit, positive or negative.
The constitution as adopted said nothing about the appropriateness of women's suffrage nor prohibited or discouraged such.
But by all means, there has always been a means for changing the constitution on an ongoing basis by design. It simply wasn't
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