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Snaps - Posted - 03/14/2012: 21:38:57
I guess I'm suffering from "banjo boredom", I'm thinking of putting heavy nylgut strings on a Reiter fretless. Other than boredom, my reasons are; low tuning would be cool, i think it would be more forgiving with the intonation (I'm not that good of a guesser) and (i hope) to balance the tonal difference Between open string and "fretted" notes.
Am I right with my above thoughts? is the 11" rim too small? Would I be better off getting a new nut to widen the slots and keep the original unaltered? I have an Elite Amber head on it, Should I put on a skin head? And what strings to use? I've used Aquila Classical, but I no nothing about minstral strings. Or is this not the right banjo for these strings?
I really need some wisdom from the gang, Thanks in advance!
Jeff
rubicon - Posted - 03/14/2012: 21:53:06
Hello The 11 inch pot is not to small you may have to widen the nut slots a tad but I would try the fit first . I had a set of these and they were cool for sure . I started out with a fiberskyn head it worked well I have a good friend who has a Bill Miller Vellum calfskin head on his Reiter A scale and he loves it .his is set up with steel strings at the moment . I would try the new set up have fun it is part of the journey and a cheap way to play a " new banjo "
Snaps - Posted - 03/14/2012: 22:02:34
Thanks Rubicon, I'll order Some strings and try. any recommendations on strings?
Bupahe - Posted - 03/15/2012: 01:45:40
I just fitted ( yesterday ) a new set of Aquila Nylgut Minstrel strings, purchased from "Elderly" to a cheapie banjo ( 22 fret ). I like the lower tuning but the ordinary strings were just a little slack. Had two pieces of advice , 1. get a long neck banjo 2. Use Minstrel strings . Went for the cheaper option of the strings . Did have to alter the groove in the nut ( string 4 ) just a little. I like the feel of the thicker strings and am delighted with them
trapdoor2 - Posted - 03/15/2012: 11:42:31
I put a set of the Minstrels on my Clifford Essex a few weeks ago. They sound great in the old "A" tuning (eAEG#B) but I don't like the feel of the thicker strings. It was just an experiment, so I'll swap 'em for the std. "Classic" set pretty soon.
They can be tuned up to standard (gCGBD, 26.25" scale) but they're really stiff and the sound just was not what I wanted.
The Old Timer - Posted - 03/15/2012: 12:46:21
I put a set of Aquila Nylgut on a Ramsey 12" Special fretless, and I love 'em. The 3rd string slot in the nut could stand to be widened a bit I think, cause if I play real hard, like in a public place, the 3rd string sometimes jumps out of the slot. I also put on a real tall minstrel bridge so I could get a good "purchase" with my right hand.
I've tuned anywhere from standard down to "low A" tuning (EAEAB, like Drop C, but way down in A). Sounds better down low I think.
This banjo has a Fiberskyn head, sounds fine.
Good intonation is not EASY! Especially if you go up the neck! Making a 3 or 4 string "chord" with the left hand is also tricky to get all fingers on the right intonation. Tone is VERY plunky, and much plunkier when you "fret" than when you hit open. I'm learning to play up on the tips of my left fingers and even fingernails to get clearer notes when I want them.
One of the most fun things about fretless is playing backward, or down-going, slides. COOL sound! Very bluesy.
I'm playing both stroke and guitar style, as the mood strikes me.
I won't go back to steel strings on this banjo. I have PLENTY of steel string banjos for old time and bluegrass.
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