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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: TOTW 9/30/2011: Folding Down The Sheets


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J-Walk - Posted - 09/30/2011:  20:00:36



 



This week's ToTW is Folding Down The Sheets.


 


If you hear somebody play this tune, it's probably not like any other version you've heard. It seems players tend to take liberties with tune -- which is fine.


 


Fiddler's Companion says:


 


FOLDING DOWN THE SHEETS. AKA and see "Hanging Out the Sheets" (Ky. title), “Mackilmoyle Reel,” "Missouri Hornpipe,” "Republican Spirit,” “Winding Sheep." Old‑Time, Breakdown. USA; southwestern Va., West Virginia, Kentucky. D Major. Standard or ADae tunings. AB (Silberberg): AABB. A somewhat-similar tune, perhaps a version of the melody, appears under the title "Republican Spirit" in George P. Knauff's Virginia Reels, volume I (1839), and elsewhere the tune appears in mid-nineteenth century Elias Howe volumes as "Missouri Hornpipe."


 


Some play it AABB. Some play it ABAB. And I'm sure some play it AAB or ABB. And the melody changes, depending on who play it. But it's almost always recognizable as "Folding Down The Sheets."


 


Here's a nice solo banjo by FukudaBano:



 


You'll find many more on Youtube.


 


My favorite versions are by Bobby Taylor and Hollow Rock String Band.


 


I'm almost embarrassed to post my 2-finger version. This is after about five days of trying to learn 2-finger index lead. It's short and sweet, because I can't play it more than one time through without screwing it up.


 


In any case, it's a great old tune. And it's an impromptu Tune of the Week because the regularly scheduled guy forgot about it. That happens; no big deal. There's an unlimited number of tunes, and I can fill in with one at a moment's notice.


 


Tell us what you know about this tune, and post a link to you playing it.


Edited by - J-Walk on 09/30/2011 20:10:11



Folding Down The Sheets

   

J-Walk - Posted - 09/30/2011:  20:09:03



Oh yeah, the tune (or something very similar to is) is also known as "Lady's Waist Ribbon." 


aeroweenie - Posted - 10/01/2011:  10:28:47


Very nice tune, I've never heard of it before. A nice jam on it is at:

youtube.com/watch?v=Y6iFNwKnYtg&NR=1

OK-4 - Posted - 10/01/2011:  11:31:33



There is a nice melodic version of this tune by Henry Sapoznik on the old Kicking Mule LP Melodic Clawhammer Banjo from the early 1980s. Sapoznik did it as a a medley with Ship in the Clouds with the apparent notion the both were related to sailing (with sheets = sails). But I recall reading somewhere that no one knows what the title of FDTS refers to, and it could be to bedsheets.


ScottK - Posted - 10/01/2011:  12:45:19



Hey J-Walk, I really like your two finger version!  Sounds really good!



I've enjoyed this tune ever since Adam Hurt taught it at a banjo workshop out here in Portland a couple of years ago.  After I learned it, my fiddler son Erik absorbed it from hearing me play it around the house.  One night he was messing around with it and "minorized" it.  I thought it sounded cool so I learned that version on banjo, too, so I could play it with him.  As a joke, I started calling the minor version "Shorting the Sheets".  I just made a quick and dirty recording of the minor version and posted it on my BHO music page in case folk are curious how that version fell out.



Great TOTW choice!



Scott


blanham - Posted - 10/01/2011:  14:34:50



quote:


Originally posted by J-Walk




Oh yeah, the tune (or something very similar to is) is also known as "Lady's Waist Ribbon." 






Aha!  I knew it sounded familiar.  I know "Ladies Waist Ribbon" from Cathy Fink's "Banjo Haiku".



amazon.com/gp/product/B0012K3Y...u_dp_trk5



Nice tune!


Julian44_4 - Posted - 10/02/2011:  03:05:04



Tabs for Open G and Double C available in my tab archive



banjohangout.org/tab/browse.as...p;v=18324


blanham - Posted - 10/02/2011:  03:42:20



Here's a field recording of Henry Reed playing it, and you can hear him say he got it from "Old Man Quince Dillon and John Dillon".



memory.loc.gov/afc/afcreed/137...05a44.mp3


ramjo - Posted - 10/02/2011:  09:36:04



I learned this (Lady's Waist Ribbon) off the Cathy Fink album. Here's my recording of it, at about 60% of the speed of Cathy's and about 10% of the musicianship.




Lady's Waist Ribbon (aka Fold Down the Sheets)

   

vrteach - Posted - 10/02/2011:  09:46:58



Nice tune! I know that I've heard it and played along with it, but never solo. Rats, I'm stuck in Duluth with no instruments, remind me of this tune some time.



PS: it's nice in Duluth right now--58 degrees F, sunny and no wind. Perfect day to walk along the beach, and I've got a pocket full of agates to prove it.



Edited by - vrteach on 10/02/2011 09:49:29

Brooklynbanjoboy - Posted - 10/02/2011:  13:30:14



Any possibility of posting the PDF version of the tab?  I can't open Scott K's tabs.  I just got a MAC and it still has the training wheels on it.  Thanks,



 



Lew


banjo_brad - Posted - 10/02/2011:  15:57:14


What format are Scott K's tabs? I couldn't find a tab by him. Julian's tab is openable by TEFview for the Mac, which is free and available from the Tabledit site.

J-Walk - Posted - 10/02/2011:  16:44:09



There's a PDF tab here:



lylewk.home.comcast.net/~lylew...heets.pdf



 


majikgator - Posted - 10/03/2011:  06:24:40



Nice tune J-Walk and your link also resulted in digging up a couple more Bob Carlin videos for me, his style really appeals to me.


Don Borchelt - Posted - 10/03/2011:  07:10:14



Some fine versions from J-Walk and ramjo.  I just recently learned this tune from Tim Rowell (aka clawhammertim), a very talented Boston area old time banjo picker who runs the Traditional Music Program at the real School of Music in Burlington, Massachusetts. This was the featured tune at his Thursday night bi-weekly old-time jam at the Real School just a couple of weeks ago.  I have attached a video of the three-finger style setting which I worked out for the jam, I am playing my semi-fretless Tubaphone, in open D tuning (aDF#AD).  Like J-Walk, I am still getting it up to speed.



You can watch Tim pick on YouTube:



Tim Rowell picking Folding Down the Sheets



I really like the great three-finger style version that Steve Arkin has recorded and uploaded to the BHO archive:



Steve Arkin picking Folding Down the Sheets



A great pick for Tune of the Week.  I hope I'm not the guy that forgot!



- Don Borchelt



Edited by - Don Borchelt on 10/03/2011 07:11:38



VIDEO: Folding Down the Sheets
(click to view)

   

John D - Posted - 10/03/2011:  09:04:14



Haven't played this for decades but was able to pick it up pretty quick after listening to all the great versions.  I played it in Double C with a capo on the 5th fret.  Fun tune!




Folding Down the Sheets

   

banjo_brad - Posted - 10/03/2011:  11:45:22


I found a tab for it in Dan Levenson's "Buzzard Banjo" tab book. Key of D.

J-Walk - Posted - 10/03/2011:  13:19:23



Oh yeah, I forgot about that Buzzard Banjo tab. I was just looking through that book the other day, too.


Mark Johnson - Posted - 10/03/2011:  13:19:59



Nice pick.  Sigh, yet another TOTW that I have to add to my unwieldy list of tunes to learn.  



A nice version of it shows up on Rayna Gellert's Starch and Iron disc: cdbaby.com/cd/gellertgoehring


bluemule_77 - Posted - 10/03/2011:  20:46:58


Great job, John -- and I must let everyone know that J-Walk came to bat for me when I failed to remember that this was my turn for the TOTW.

I have been a bit wrapped up in work and family and visitors of late and have not been getting to BHO as much as has been my habit!

I will return for a November TOTW.

Now... Back to the tune. Thanks again, J.

Brian

majikgator - Posted - 10/04/2011:  05:43:12



What Don Borchelt calls trying to get up to speed is what i aspire to -  great job (as usual) Don.


Don Borchelt - Posted - 10/06/2011:  04:39:57



Thanks for the compliment, Jim (majikgator).  I think the version I learned from Tim is a lot closer to the Gellert version than the original Henry Reed version.  John D picks a fine, driving tune, very nice.


vrteach - Posted - 10/06/2011:  06:45:32



What great versions! I woke up humming this tune this morning and had some time to grab the banjo. My Wife said "Nice tune--we gotta go". Then I had time before work to dash out a recording before anyone came in. I'm on my noname aluminum banjo, probably not quite in double-D.




Folding Down the Sheets

   

ELWOOD - Posted - 10/06/2011:  08:09:53



quote:


Originally posted by vrteach




What great versions! I woke up humming this tune this morning and had some time to grab the banjo. My Wife said "Nice tune--we gotta go". Then I had time before work to dash out a recording before anyone came in. I'm on my noname aluminum banjo, probably not quite in double-D.






 I agree, that was excellent,  Well worth stealing from you /with your permission


YorkshireWannabeOldTimer - Posted - 10/06/2011:  09:36:50



Although an avid follower of TOTW, I've never attempted to have a go at posting in a topic myself. This is a novice's rather stately effort and I blush to put it aside the excellent recordings posted already, but hey ho...




Folding down the sheets

   

strokestyle - Posted - 10/06/2011:  12:11:06



Great tune pick and some really great versions played here!


cmic - Posted - 10/07/2011:  05:10:26



vrteach: I really love the way you play this tune. So I visited you site and listen tons of music. Really enjoyed.

But as I am a beginner (2 years of Old Time), do you have a tablature for Folding Down the Sheets ? The same question applies for all the tunes heard on your website 8-)



Cheers


vrteach - Posted - 10/07/2011:  06:47:06



quote:


Originally posted by cmic




vrteach: I really love the way you play this tune. So I visited you site and listen tons of music. Really enjoyed.

But as I am a beginner (2 years of Old Time), do you have a tablature for Folding Down the Sheets ? The same question applies for all the tunes heard on your website 8-)



Cheers






Thanks for your kind words. But, I am not a tablature writer. I don't have anything against it and I wish I DID write it out, but every time I've started to (by hand or by tabledit) I get bogged down. I suspect that the tablature from LyleK that J-Walk listed above is pretty close to what I did on this tune--although I tend to brush more and have fewer notes of the melody than Lyle.


cmic - Posted - 10/07/2011:  07:03:57



quote:


Originally posted by vrteach




quote:


Originally posted by cmic





vrteach: I really love the way you play this tune. So I visited you site and listen tons of music. Really enjoyed.

But as I am a beginner (2 years of Old Time), do you have a tablature for Folding Down the Sheets ? The same question applies for all the tunes heard on your website 8-)



Cheers






Thanks for your kind words. But, I am not a tablature writer. I don't have anything against it and I wish I DID write it out, but every time I've started to (by hand or by tabledit) I get bogged down. I suspect that the tablature from LyleK that J-Walk listed above is pretty close to what I did on this tune--although I tend to brush more and have fewer notes of the melody than Lyle.






OK. I get it.. and understand what you say. I have once played a tune 'by hear' but it was a hassle for me to slow the tune and write down a tab of it.



I'll play Lylek tab instead.



 


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