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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: TOTW July 8, 2011: Over the Road to Maysville


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trick420 - Posted - 07/08/2011:  08:50:27



Yay! it's my turn to do a TOTW again!



 



My current favorite song is hands down "Over the Road to Maysville".  There's not a lot of recordings of it, and no banjo arrangements that I've been able to find, so I created my own from the Fiddle music.  But before we get to that, here's the background that I have been able to find:



From the Fiddler's Companion:  ibiblio.org/fiddlers/OP_OZ.htm



" OVER THE ROAD TO MAYSVILLE [1]. Old-Time, Breakdown. According to John Hartford the road to Maysville, Kentucky, was travelled because it was the nearest tobacco warehouse since there wasn’t one in Morehead. The tune was played fast at first to denote the anticipation of hauling the weed to market, and then slow, as when payment was made and spent getting drunk on a spree and returning home the worse for wear. It was mentioned in a citation around 1915 by G.R. McMahon from Sevierville, Tennessee. Rounder 0351, J.P. Fraley (learned from his father). Rounder 0392, John Hartford - “Wild Hog in the Red Brush (and a Bunch of Others You Might Not Have Heard)” {1996. Learned from J.P. Fraley, who had it from his father who said Ed Haley played it}.  "



I found three recordings of it.  They're all fiddle arrangements of course:



The incomparable John Hartford: new.music.yahoo.com/john-hartf...--1222671



This is the recording that I know as I have "Wild Hog in the Red Brush" and listen to it almost daily.



J.P. Fraley:  amazon.com/Maysville-JP-Annade...000002NF/





The Tall Boys:  thetallboys.com/09%20Road%20To...ville.mp3



Other recordings from Youtube:



youtube.com/watch?v=n93446V61P0

youtube.com/watch?v=QTxivPlV8J...e=related

 



Here's my attempt - I've been learning it for over a month now, and it's quite challenging for me to play.  It's got some pinky finger stretches in it as well as a couple of ASPO's that are a little tricky.  I tune to Sawmill for it and it seems to make it the most playable that way.  Played AA BB AA - It doesn't really work to end on the B part as it doesn't want to resolve to the fundamental chord.  Also, my recording quality is really bad - I'm on the road and only have the built in mic on my laptop.  I'll try to update the recording when I can.



banjohangout.org/myhangout/mus...id=44261#



Here's my tab arrangement:hangoutstorage.com/banjohangou...72011.pdf



 




Over the Road to Maysville


Maysville

J-Walk - Posted - 07/08/2011:  10:20:02



Good one, Jeff. This is another one of those tunes that I've heard, but never really listened to or considered learning. I think I'll play around with it and see if I can get a handle on that weird melody in the A part.



I like how John Hartford starts out fast, and then plays it slower for those who want to learn it.



The Reed Island Rounders also recorded it on their "Hand Me Downs" CD (they just call it "Maysville").



Snake Chapman plays a tune called "Going Down to Maysville" but it's a completely different tune.



The Tallboys play it in A (everyone else does it in C).


TOTW - Posted - 07/08/2011:  14:24:27



I don't have any other recordings this week.  Here's the full version of two that trick mentioned:



John Hartford - youtube.com/watch?v=w3yOfKeUCn4



JP Fraley - youtube.com/watch?v=xMIs8_XEqyA


majikgator - Posted - 07/08/2011:  17:00:41



i like the tune, i don't remember ever having heard it. Seems to me you did a fine arrangement of it. Yes it would be nice to have a better recording but this one was certainly good enough to understand it. Great job.


J-Walk - Posted - 07/08/2011:  19:57:09



Well, I've been having some fun with this one today. Jeff, I can understand why you like it so much.



It all started to make sense after I figured out the chords. Yes, it's very crooked.



A Part:
C/// C/// C/// C///
C/// C/ F/ F/// F/
G/// G/// C/

B Part:
C/ F/// F/// F///
C/// C/// C/// C/
F/// F/// G/// G///


These chords correspond to the John Hartford version. JP Fraley and the Reed Island Rounders play some minor chords in the B part. After listening to four different versions, Hartford's is my favorite by far.



It seems to work fine in Double C.


trick420 - Posted - 07/08/2011:  20:13:09



quote:


Originally posted by J-Walk




Well, I've been having some fun with this one today. Jeff, I can understand why you like it so much.



It all started to make sense after I figured out the chords. Yes, it's very crooked.



A Part:
C/// C/// C/// C///
C/// C/ F/ F/// F/
G/// G/// C/

B Part:
C/ F/// F/// F///
C/// C/// C/// C/
F/// F/// G/// G///


These chords correspond to the John Hartford version. JP Fraley and the Reed Island Rounders play some minor chords in the B part. After listening to four different versions, Hartford's is my favorite by far.



It seems to work fine in Double C.






I think the reason why I like Hartford's version best is because it stays major and "happy", and that just works for me!



Yes, it's fine in double C - But if you're playing it along the melody as I have, having the 4th tuned down makes it a reach for a couple notes, which is why I chose to tab it in sawmill.  I can't wait to hear your version of it.



 



Jeff

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trick420 - Posted - 07/08/2011:  21:03:43



OK folks, here's a better recording of it.  This time I play it upbeat (fast) and "draggy" as Hartford does.  On a much better microphone too, so now you can hear all my mistakes!  big



 



Jeff




Over the Road to Maysville

   

derwood400 - Posted - 07/09/2011:  06:59:26


Never new this tune until now. It is real beauty. I think I like the Hartford version best too. I also really loved the first YouTube video you posted with the guy playing fiddle and the girl playing guitar. That guy plays the fiddle beautifully.

aeroweenie - Posted - 07/09/2011:  10:40:39


I've heard this tune many times on the WDVX radio Sunday old time shows (available online, highly recommended!), but I never caught the title of it. Great tune, thanks for working it out!

vrteach - Posted - 07/09/2011:  11:47:10


This tune is new to me, and I've been having some fun with it. I like that.

vrteach - Posted - 07/10/2011:  08:53:06


OK, I've got something like a version. I just used my little voice recorder, and I'm still kind of wandering during the B part and I can't quite hum it consistently, but it is fun to play at.



Road to Maysville (draft)

   

trick420 - Posted - 07/11/2011:  08:08:23



Nice job on that!  a very different (to my ear anyway) take on the song.



I'm hoping that we will get to hear some interpretations from others here shortly!



Jeff


ScottK - Posted - 07/11/2011:  17:23:07



Looks like I missed a couple of good TOTWs while I was up in Port Townsend attending Fiddle Tunes last week.  This one has been a favorite since I heard it in a jam at Dare to Be Square in Seattle a year and a half ago.  The folks I was playing with had learned it from the Tall Boys recording.  I subsequently learned it on fiddle from that recording and have been slowly trying to get it up to speed, but I'm still not there yet.  Haven't tackled it on banjo yet.  Jeff and Erich, I really like the versions you each posted.  Great work!



Scott


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