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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: A Scale Banjo for Clawhammer Old Time?


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Cottonmouth - Posted - 01/08/2010:  18:54:04


Bisbonian, Thanks; the banjo in my avatar is my 1922. I sold the mandolin banjo neck, but retained the dowel stick; they can be tough to remove, but worth the effort. Wyatt made a dowel stick for my 1910 and stamped the serial number in it. eBay or Mandolin Cafe classified ads may eventually produce a rim; I wish you success in your search.

Cottonmouth - Posted - 01/09/2010:  13:19:15


Here is a different view.



1922 Fairbanks-Vega Tu-ba-phone

   

Brooklynbanjoboy - Posted - 01/09/2010:  13:52:58


All this constructive talk has pressed me to reach out to my favorite builder with some starting questions to him regarding how he might put together an A scale, knowing what he does of my banjo habits and preferences. Thanks for the nudge. I'll be sure to report in periodically.

Lew

RWJones1970 - Posted - 01/10/2010:  17:12:13


*** I spoke to Wyatt about the length of the neck that he is building for my 1921, 10 1/8 WL pot. He said it is a 23 1/8 scale........ much like Cottonmouth's except a tad shorter if I am correct. I wonder how much volume it will put out compared to my Reiter A-scale with 11" head? I can hardly wait to see and play it ! Thanks for all the pictures !!!!


Edited by - RWJones1970 on 01/10/2010 17:15:11

Cottonmouth - Posted - 01/10/2010:  18:13:52


Rob, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Does your Whyte Laydie pot have a calfskin head or something more modern?

RWJones1970 - Posted - 01/11/2010:  00:53:54


*** Ken, I believe Wyatt said he will be using a fiberskyn head. I can hardly wait. I know you love yours. Hope your doing well...Semper Fidelis.

Cottonmouth - Posted - 01/11/2010:  06:53:21


Rob, my Tu-ba-phone still has the old calf skin head, but my everyday banjo has Fiberskyn and a Stew-Mac rolled brass hoop (flat) tone ring. It is quite loud even with the heavy Moon bridge and it rings nicely, much to my surprise. Some folks seem to think Fiberskyn is too plunky, but it may be 'cause they don't have it stretched tightly enough. I know you will be happy with Wyatt's neck and you will have a lifetime banjo in your hands! Semper Fidelis.

harvey - Posted - 01/11/2010:  14:54:06


YouTuber Michael "FrostyMorn" has posted some lovely playing on what appears to be a Reiter Galax short-scale:

Cold Frosty Morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfASb56qqk0

Sweet Sunny South (in both 2-finger thumb-lead and clawhammer):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEf7gBT8eNY

and finally Fall(s) of Richmond:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQTB0wBk-04

An immensely talented musician.

RWJones1970 - Posted - 01/11/2010:  15:31:09


Harvey, I have corresponded with Frosty Morn to tell him I love his work. It was his videos that prompted me to ask him what exactly was that banjo he was playing. He says its a Bart Reiter A-scale banjo with rolled brass tone ring.

harvey - Posted - 01/16/2010:  04:41:59


Rob, Thanks for the info. I wish he'd make a few more banjo videos.

rudy - Posted - 02/03/2010:  20:01:11


I’m a little late coming to the party, but thought I’d post one more A Scale since there were folks desiring assorted pictures. This one is certainly a bit different. I was in the process of putting this one together when the thread was in progress. It’s a 23” A scale that I’m tuning aDADE. More pictures and details at Myhangout homepage photos.




deuceswilde - Posted - 02/03/2010:  20:18:49


quote:
Originally posted by jbalch

Tom:

That is a very nice looking SSS American Princess. I really like the original Stewart common sense tailpiece with the ivory rosette. Those are nearly impossible to find (if you need one for resoration).

image from www.mugwumps.com"




I believe the reason they are so hard to find is that wire strings break them.

trapdoor2 - Posted - 02/04/2010:  07:47:32


The rosettes are not retained very well either...if they fall off, they're typically gone. I have seen at least one or two Stewart tailpieces where the rosettes have been replaced by fancy Victorian ivory (or bone) buttons.

The early ivroy/bone Stewart tailpieces are the ones that really suffer from wire strings. They typically either pull out at the holes or break at the bolt-hole. The one on my Orchestra #2 look like #1 (except shorter 'cause it broke at the bolt hole sometime in its life).



Back to A-scale...

I usually carry at least two banjos to jams: std. in gDGBD, A-scale in aDADE. That way I can easily switch between G, D and A (with a capo). If there are fiddlers present, the A-scale usually gets all the work.

I suspect my next custom order is going to be an A-scale based on a Tubaphone mandolin-banjo pot. That 10-1/8" pot with an A-scale ought to be killer.

harvey - Posted - 02/04/2010:  14:54:31


Hey Rudy, that's an interesting construction. How do you tighten/loosen the head? It looks good! I like the tunneled 5th.

rudy - Posted - 02/04/2010:  18:00:45


Hi Harvey,
The head is tensioned by inserting a 3/32" t handle allen wrench in the holes at the rear of the rim. Tightening them forces the 3/8" brass tone ring up against the stationary head. It works really well.

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