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handsup8 - Posted - 08/14/2009: 22:17:53
I love this tune, “Lost Girl,” and in particular a version which I recently learned from VT fiddler Katie Trautz. Katie says she learned it from Jimmy Triplett while at Augusta one summer. There are many versions out there, but none which sounds exactly the same as this one, so I’m tempted to call it “Jimmy’s Lost Girl” or “Katie’s Lost Girl.” I guess this song stands out for me because it is one of the few (but growing number of) tunes I play which comes very directly from the style and approach of one of the best local fiddlers I get to play with. I caught it from someone specific, and had to figure out a way to accompany her version. I like that.
I just posted an mp3 of Katie and I playing it together to my Hangout homepage:
http://www.banjohangout.org/myhango...usicid=13993
I could only find two other Banjohangout versions of the tune. The first is from member Tim Rowell and fiddler Alan Kaufman. I actually listened to it for the first time TODAY! Tim notes that he learned the tune from Mac Benford:
http://www.banjohangout.org/myhango...usicid=10347
The second is from member Lyle Konigsberg. His “Lost Girl” appears as the last in a five-tune “Old G” medley. I was having a hard time getting the tune, and found Lyle’s tablature, which uses the Old G tuning. His tab and use of this tuning really helped me figure out a way through. Thanks LyleK! Here’s his playing
http://www.banjohangout.org/myhango...musicid=9041
and here’s his tablature
http://lylewk.home.comcast.net/~lyl...t%20Girl.pdf
Dwight Diller also has tab in Open G for another version of “Lost Girl” here:
http://www.dwightdiller.com/tab/lostgirl.html
There are several commercial recordings of tunes with this name, but I have not been able to listen to all of them to check out whether they resemble the version I play.
Martin Fox and Jeff Winegar on “The Way it Was: 19th century Fiddle & Banjo”
Adam Hurt (piano) on “Insight”
Rafe Stefanini on “Hell and Scissors”
Chance McCoy and the Appalachian String Band.
Dwight Diller on “Jericho Road”
Emmitt Lundy on “Tunes from Grayson Co., VA”
Digital Library of Appalachia has versions by Walter McNew and Alva Green
Hope you enjoy, and please let me know of other versions I’ve missed. I will be attending the Vermont Old Time Gathering this weekend, so will not be available to reply to postings until I return Sunday night. If you're interested in the VT OT Gathering, just google "Twin Pond Retreat." Info about the gathering and directions are on the website. Ted
Handsup8
Edited by - handsup8 on 08/14/2009 22:26:58
BrendanD - Posted - 08/15/2009: 05:19:50
Very nicely played, Ted - on both instruments! I don't know Katie, but she sounds like someone I'd love to play with sometime - lovely fiddling! This version of "Lost Girl" (or "The Lost Girl") is from Melvin Wine. I've just uploaded a recording I made of Melvin playing this tune at his home in Copen, WV in August 1979 - 30 years ago this month:
http://www.banjohangout.org/myhango...usicid=14007
Unusual though it is, this was the first version of the tune that I ever heard. I've heard (and played) many versions since, but this is perhaps still my favorite. I play it in regular G tuning (gDGBD), but I really like your playing of it in gDGDE tuning! I'll have to mess with it in that tuning and see what I come up with.
Brendan
"Many thing un-understandable a chicken-hearted seems slim usually."
- from a Japanese shopping bag (printed in English)
Edited by - BrendanD on 08/15/2009 05:32:32
J-Walk - Posted - 08/15/2009: 08:45:24
That is some fine playing, Ted. You and Katie should make a CD. You complement each other perfectly.
I searched my music collection and found three more tunes named Lost Girl:
* Red Hots, on their "Ready to Roll" CD
* Foghorn String Band, on "Rattlesnake Tidal Wave" and "Weiser Sunrise"
* Adam Hurt & Beth Hartness, on a 2007 live recording in Newark, DE (a medley with Highlanders Farewell)
I think there might be two different (but similar) tunes with the same name. The Walter McNew, Chance McCoy, Foghorn SB, and Hurt/Hartness recordings are in C -- and it works out great in Double C tuning.
LyleK - Posted - 08/15/2009: 09:00:17
Ditto to Brendan's and John's comments. That's some mighty fine playing. And thanks also to Brendan for posting Melvin Wine's version.
The version that I did in that gDGDE medley (and which I tabed in that tuning) was derived from John Salyer's version ( http://www.aca-dla.org/Berea/image/1497.mp3 ).
LyleK
http://lylewk.home.comcast.net
Mark Johnson - Posted - 08/16/2009: 08:38:30
Heck yeah, you two are really really great! That definitely merits a commercial endeavor. I at the very least hope you post more clips of you guys playing together.
Great tune, too. I'd heard the Fox/Winegar version, but not the others. I'll be looking in to them shortly!
Thanks,
Mark
handsup8 - Posted - 08/16/2009: 14:18:11
Thanks very much for the kind words Brendan, JWalk, LyleK and Mark. Katie and I along with Dan Haley (a fine singer, guitar and mandolin player) are putting together a cd all the proceeds from which will support a school for traditional music and culture in Montpelier, Vt (where we live). Katie is the Director of the Summit School for Traditional Music and Culture; Dan and I teach there; and I'm also on the board. www.summit-school.org.
The CD should be ready in a couple weeks.
Brendan: thanks so much for that great recording of Melvin Wine, I love his playing in general and love his version of this tune in particular. Clearly his playing is the source for the tune which Katie caught from Jimmy Triplett. Perpahs I should amend my personal title to "Melvin's Lost Girl."
KATIE is a fine fiddler, a beautiful singer and a new but already damn good banjo player. Here is her myspace address:
http://www.myspace.com/katietrautz
She has a solo version of "Lost Girl" there as well as a beautiful version of "Francis Whitmore's Wife" on which she plays all the banjo and sings all the vocals. If you like lovely singing in the old time tradition, check out the band Mayfly which is Katie and Julia Wayne.
J-Walk thanks for the references to more versions of this fine tune. Thanks also for your discussion of the two branchings off of this (these) tune(s). I'll have to check it out in C and try to play it there as well.
Lyle, thanks again for your tab. I will check out that John Salyer version soon. (I'm still exhausted from playing with Pete Sutherland and other fine players this weekend!)
Cheers, Mark, and I'll post some good second takes from the recording once we get it out. Thanks again Ted
Handsup8
Edited by - handsup8 on 08/16/2009 14:21:37
Matt Buckley - Posted - 08/16/2009: 14:38:22
Ted -
I learned my version from Lyle K. We need to check more on the tunes we both know. Could'a played Lost Girl at the OT Weekend yesterday.
I assume you were up to 4:00 a.m. or some such hour last night.
Cheers, Matt
Edited by - Matt Buckley on 08/16/2009 14:38:49
handsup8 - Posted - 08/16/2009: 15:30:24
Hey Matt: yea, went pretty late. Pete came back around 11 and he, Julia and I played (and sang!) some tunes for a couple hours. I wandered a bit in search of a next group but nothing was lookin' to top it so I went to bed. Had a bit of a hard time sleeping as two different groups played late: one really, really good and the other not so much. They were usually in different keys, tempos and grooves as well. Got up, helped get breakfast and played until about 2 today! Good to see you there, and yes we need to match up our little lists and be ready to roll em out! See ya next week, hopefully at least twice! Ted
Handsup8
Edited by - handsup8 on 08/16/2009 15:31:07
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