Enda Scahill - Posted - 02/13/2024:  00:49:06

I’ve always known it as a reel but here’s a take on both

Fishers Hornpipe - A Tutorial for Irish Tenor Banjo (?? It's a Bluegrass Reel!)
youtu.be/c1visgR3jOw

lapsteel - Posted - 02/13/2024:  05:24:47

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Joel Hooks - Posted - 02/13/2024:  06:39:21

I have not watched your video, but I do have a question.

Do we know the point in history where all of these arbitrary rules were added?

Going through 19th century collections of tunes, "reel" and "hornpipe" tend to be used both dotted and straight interchangeable up to the publication.

The same with "jigs" which applied to 2/4 as well as 6/8.

Then, at some point, perhaps after O'neill's publication(?), we get all these strict rules and classifications.

martyjoe - Posted - 02/13/2024:  06:59:05

I would have assumed that the term jig , reel & so on would have referred to a dance. There wouldn’t have been many literate (music literate) folk musicians back in time. They would have played the music that suited whatever particular dance I imagine.

Joel Hooks - Posted - 02/13/2024:  07:32:11

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Originally posted by martyjoe

I would have assumed that the term jig , reel & so on would have referred to a dance. There wouldn’t have been many literate (music literate) folk musicians back in time. They would have played the music that suited whatever particular dance I imagine.

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When speaking of post ACW America, you'd be surprised how common reading music was.

Edited by - Joel Hooks on 02/13/2024 07:32:53

carlb - Posted - 02/13/2024:  12:31:55

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Originally posted by Enda Scahill

I’ve always known it as a reel but here’s a take on both



Fishers Hornpipe - A Tutorial for Irish Tenor Banjo (?? It's a Bluegrass Reel!)

youtu.be/c1visgR3jOw

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Speed depends on whether your playing for dancers or just in a session for yourselves. For dancing, the tempo is slower but there's an awful lot of steps happening.

youtube.com/watch?v=dBsk2Ir8eoI

youtube.com/watch?v=kKej1kujKn4

Tim Jumper - Posted - 02/13/2024:  16:40:29

As the terms seem to have evolved, these days, especially in Irish Trad.,
"hornpipe" = slower tempo, "dotted" rhythm; "reel" = faster tempo, "straight" rhythm.
The dance steps for each are different as well, but I dare not attempt to perform or even describe them!