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sideways - Posted - 08/21/2011: 19:59:25
Been nice of Gibson if they would have had the courtesy to simply stamp "PW" under the lip so that all of this could have been avoided.
BANJOBOB549 - Posted - 08/21/2011: 20:27:17
I know of 2 Rings with P W on Lip. Nothing else. They were there for a reason. Were not there to deceive anyone,,,,
josh95843 - Posted - 08/21/2011: 20:53:04
i dont want to see anyones instrument get slured i dont do that and i know you guys dont. its a interesting topic that much more is to be learned about by us all. like ronnie said if it smells feels and taste like it is it probably is. could not say it better than that
sideways - Posted - 08/21/2011: 20:53:12
WTF?
John Steele - Posted - 08/22/2011: 00:57:21
There seem to be lots of 30's conversions around without their original tone ring. It begs the question...
- John
RB3WREATH - Posted - 08/22/2011: 02:55:33
Wow
reading through this thread I have detected some FLATHEAD RAGE from those who want to own and those who do. This is like roid rage but different it comes from owning an original flathead for too long or wanting one for too long the truth lies in the right hand and taste. If you can play and get good tone. Ron said it those listening wont care at all but you know it when you play it. So a good banjo is a good banjo. If the tone ring is the real deal great if not and it is a great banjo great
Joe
Oldtwanger - Posted - 08/22/2011: 04:42:09
quote:
Originally posted by RB3WREATH
Wow
reading through this thread I have detected some FLATHEAD RAGE from those who want to own and those who do. This is like roid rage but different it comes from owning an original flathead for too long or wanting one for too long the truth lies in the right hand and taste. If you can play and get good tone. Ron said it those listening wont care at all but you know it when you play it. So a good banjo is a good banjo. If the tone ring is the real deal great if not and it is a great banjo great
Joe
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So very true, Joe.
If the amount of time spent arguing about tonerings was used instead behind the mike and practicing, it would do far more for a pickers tone than any tonering.
And while I'm at it, we should all remember Chet Atkins advice: "When you practice, practice as though you were in a performance on stage. The way you sound when you practice is the way you will sound on stage." Sage advice, guaranteed to do more for you than any tonering, even those with 'PW' stamped on the bottom.
El Twangro viejo
Edited by - Oldtwanger on 08/22/2011 04:43:09
wbelm - Posted - 08/22/2011: 08:12:59
You guys are like a class full of ADD students......... However, yes I apologize even more than you for taking a shot at the actual question.........Still a Newbie to the HangYourself.
I wouldn't know a prewar ring if I sat on it. As previously stated, most of the prewar sound is the musician not the pedigree of the instrument. That being said, we all love to hear both at the same time, for example hearing Crowe pull tones from a fine prewar flathead.
BANJOBOB549 - Posted - 08/22/2011: 21:20:07
quote:
Originally posted by wbelm
You guys are like a class full of ADD students......... However, yes I apologize even more than you for taking a shot at the actual question.........Still a Newbie to the HangYourself.
I wouldn't know a prewar ring if I sat on it. As previously stated, most of the prewar sound is the musician not the pedigree of the instrument. That being said, we all love to hear both at the same time, for example hearing Crowe pull tones from a fine prewar flathead.
Well, I see you had a nice nap, Was about to send neighbors to check on you,,,, Are the ADD classes being held locally,,,might interest me,,,,,
banjodr - Posted - 08/23/2011: 05:06:26
I took an ADD clas..........Speaking of pre war tone rin..............ahhhh fit to the rim is critic.................Goodnight Irene!
Ron Stewart - Posted - 08/24/2011: 05:55:33
May want to change your FONT Bill. And thank you for putting it back on track. Most of the time a banjo has a story to tell as you pointed out last week and sometimes you have to step back for a look and revisit in a different approach. Sometimes things pop out that you can't believe you missed. BTW, your familiar with 9602-xx, Skillethead's Mastertone block lettering is identical to that banjo's lettering(FONT) I'M REALLY STARTING TO HATE THAT WORD! I THINK THERE'S MORE FONT ON THESE THINGS THAN METAL OR WOOD.
steve davis - Posted - 08/24/2011: 06:45:07
You know some really big words,Ron.
robbyboone - Posted - 08/24/2011: 16:14:27
Font ain't a big word........supercalifragilisticexpialidocious......now THAT"S a big word.
pick it - Posted - 08/24/2011: 17:03:40
quote:
Originally posted by sideways
Been nice of Gibson if they would have had the courtesy to simply stamp "PW" under the lip so that all of this could have been avoided.
Good idea there, but they would need to list what war was going to happen
bluegrassboy - Posted - 08/24/2011: 19:07:56
robby,
Font ain't a big word........supercalifragilisticexpialidocious......now THAT"S a big word.
what do it mean?
thumpic2003 - Posted - 08/24/2011: 19:12:21
Its all in the old wood!!!!!
Michael Keith - Posted - 08/24/2011: 19:31:38
I have 2 pre war banjos a 1926 Gibson arch top and a 1936 Gibson flat top and both sound great. I have not heard there tone on any other banjo yet. Not saying there are not any I just never heard one and have gotten many compliments on the tone and loudness of them.
robbyboone - Posted - 08/24/2011: 19:46:51
quote:
Originally posted by bluegrassboy
robby,
Font ain't a big word........supercalifragilisticexpialidocious......now THAT"S a big word.
what do it mean?
Hellifino........I think it's from Mary Poppins or something. While obviously it wasn't, I was just tryin' to be funny.
Ron Stewart - Posted - 08/24/2011: 19:50:17
Bravo brother Robby, got a laugh from me. BTW, seen any god bowties for sale n our area?Would check 'em out. BTW, Warren said he would take a look at hat neck, and if he thought he could get it right, he would do it for sure.
BANJOBOB549 - Posted - 08/25/2011: 07:02:50
That I,m Walkin Banjo has a 3 or and 75 sound,, Course we have have Concrete proof no 75 exists. Was a hard pill to swallow,,,I think what happened was, Ron changed Bridges from one recording to the Other, Used Same friggin Banjo. I,m more interested In FONT used on that banjer,,If not Correct, then the recordings are Suspect,,,,Anyone who thinks FONT won,t make a difference in sound, Listen Closely,,,,,,,,,,,,Hear It,,,,,,,,,
Oldtwanger - Posted - 08/25/2011: 07:14:03
quote:
Originally posted by BANJOBOB549
That I,m Walkin Banjo has a 3 or and 75 sound,, Course we have have Concrete proof no 75 exists. Was a hard pill to swallow,,,I think what happened was, Ron changed Bridges from one recording to the Other, Used Same friggin Banjo. I,m more interested In FONT used on that banjer,,If not Correct, then the recordings are Suspect,,,,Anyone who thinks FONT won,t make a difference in sound, Listen Closely,,,,,,,,,,,,Hear It,,,,,,,,,
The font can make a difference in tone for sure...................
Sometimes it can make the tone sound just orphel..........
bluegrassboy - Posted - 08/25/2011: 07:15:33
I was just tryin' to be funny.
me too......... just thought that was a big word for any banjo player........but i only have a 12th grade education, 4th grade 3 times!
Ron Stewart - Posted - 08/25/2011: 07:47:25
You're lucky, me I'm 3rd grade 4 times!
bluegrassboy - Posted - 08/25/2011: 08:19:35
ok heres what it means, "something to say when you have nothing to say" guess i have too much time on my hands. btw, at least were smarter than jethro bodine, he only has a 6th grade education, and he dont play banjo!
Wishuey - Posted - 08/30/2011: 05:42:18
Good grief! Talk about a subject that is clearly not "One of The Great Burning Issues of Our Time".
I`ve noodled around on a couple of originals including the one Earl Scruggs got from Don Reno (when Don had it) but my skill level was (and still is) hardly at the level necessary to truly appreciate it. This was backstage at the old "New River Ranch" near Conowingo Maryland in the mid `50s and I was way too nervous being in the presence of my banjo-hero to properly control my fingers in any case.
I`ve owned a Gibson "bitsa Granada" (bitsa this, bitsa that) for about forty years. The fellow I got it from had owned it for over ten years so the reproduction five string neck had been on it since the early 1950s; has to be some sort of record. The batch number(9264) on the resonator indicates it started out as a 1929 PB3 archtop, no decal on the rim but I`m told by someone who knows far more about it than I do that the ring is original. It doesn`t matter one whit to me as I love the way the thing sounds. I suppose after I croak my heirs might be pleased at possibly inheriting something other than my Visa bill but, aside from that......
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