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lazyarcher - Posted - 06/05/2010:  09:13:39


I want to put a scope on a Savage .17HMR for chucks out to ~ 200 yards. Something in the 6-18X for my eyes. I have Leupolds on most of my rifles, but dont really want to put that ammt of $$ on this gun. Any thoughts on some of the "lesser" scopes like Barska, BSA, Swift, Simmons, Meuller, etx??

Old Man - Posted - 06/05/2010:  11:15:32


Straight 4 power is all you need and I can;t get away from leupold myself although I do have a wide angle Simmons that is very good.My 222 with a 4 power 40 MM lens is super.

pickerjim - Posted - 06/05/2010:  18:17:34


Lazyarcher...The BSA has a fairly good rep...and they don't break the bank....btw..how do ya like the .17?

Oldman...I have a remington 788 in .222...I love this rifle..taken many a yote with it.
Ordering the Remington VTR in .204 ruger this fall...another fine rifle and cal. ...Jim

Forrest - Posted - 06/05/2010:  18:22:26


Dave,

I'd consider a Simmons AETEC 3.8-12x44mm AO as a good choice. I have one on a Ruger 77/17 and I bought it after reading this article:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/compared_...R_scopes.htm

I've had it out 3 times and have been very satisfied with the performance.

lazyarcher - Posted - 06/05/2010:  19:15:15


Thanks guys..I'll check out these scopes.

Jim--I've used my friends .17, and its fun for the under 200yd stuff on chucks. Not much noise, and its great where you dont want a bullet traveling far, esp around some of the farms. I used to load and shoot a .220 Swift which is still my fav for serious critter control, but this .17 is just plain fun!!!

pickerjim - Posted - 06/05/2010:  20:35:49


You bet...can't go wrong with a 220....I had heard good things about the .17 and superior accuracy. I had a half dozen farms lined up thru the yrs and always enjoyed hammerin a few chucks...we just don't see many anymore. Coyotes have really thinned them out. Lots of BIG yotes here. Neighbors have lost 3 dogs to them so far so it's "game on" this fall.....Jim

Hope you find a suitable scope!!

Bayou Talker - Posted - 06/06/2010:  11:53:45


I have a Simmons Whitetail Classic AO 6-24 X 50 on my Marlin 17HMR and it is sweet. I bought it used for $50 and put it on the Marlin just to try it out and never took it off. They currently make the same scope in a 6-20 X 50 and sells for around $75-100. I don't know why they stopped making the 24X but it sure will let you reach out and touch them.

lazyarcher - Posted - 06/06/2010:  14:58:37


quote:
Originally posted by pickerjim

You bet...can't go wrong with a 220....I had heard good things about the .17 and superior accuracy. I had a half dozen farms lined up thru the yrs and always enjoyed hammerin a few chucks...we just don't see many anymore. Coyotes have really thinned them out. Lots of BIG yotes here. Neighbors have lost 3 dogs to them so far so it's "game on" this fall.....Jim

Hope you find a suitable scope!!



10-4 on the 'yotes. I've heard rumors of bounties on them soon. We had a bunch yapping across the road the other night. You're right about the chucks...not as many as years gone by. Maybe yote hunts on a summer night may take their place.....

lazyarcher - Posted - 06/06/2010:  14:59:35


quote:
Originally posted by Bayou Talker

I have a Simmons Whitetail Classic AO 6-24 X 50 on my Marlin 17HMR and it is sweet. I bought it used for $50 and put it on the Marlin just to try it out and never took it off. They currently make the same scope in a 6-20 X 50 and sells for around $75-100. I don't know why they stopped making the 24X but it sure will let you reach out and touch them.



My buddie swears by the Simmons stuff--the Aetecs are supposed to be real good!!

Bayou Talker - Posted - 06/06/2010:  15:40:32


Here is a good deal on a Simmons. You really don't need the 20X but it sure comes in handy when they only want to show their noses at 100 yds+. You can put it on the nose and it is gone.


http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduc...umber=168462

EDIT: Here is another model for a bit less.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduc...umber=746570


Edited by - Bayou Talker on 06/06/2010 15:47:45

pickerjim - Posted - 06/06/2010:  20:42:08


lol...ya gotta love them long shots..!!

Grumpy1 - Posted - 06/06/2010:  22:03:59


Don't have a .17 yet but have a Tasco 6 x 24 x 50 on my Ruger .223. Think it was less than $100, well several yrs back now. I can take out ants at a 100 yds. with handloads OK BIG ants.

Good luck with it. Be interesting to hear what you settle on and how it works.

troy_nov1965 - Posted - 06/07/2010:  11:48:35


ive had a tasco world class 4x16 on my 308 for almost 10 years and have not had a problem out of it.........up to 300 yds its really good.

Frebazak - Posted - 06/07/2010:  17:48:55


I've got an infestation of groundhogs in my main pasture. They dig two holes so I locate both, then sit about 100 yrds away at a vantage point that gives me both holes. I've to a 22 hornet with Hornady ammo that does the job nicely. I use the iron sites on the gun,... but at 100 yrds,... ya gotta be able to flip em if you take your time with the shot.

Gomer - Posted - 06/07/2010:  18:05:30


The .17 is a little tack driver, but not much further out than 150. The poster who suggested the 4X may have something. If you go much more than that, you are going to be spending time getting an objective out of a monster scope. I have topped everything I own with a zeiss 3x9. anything I can't put together with that goes free to live another day. Come to think of it, with my marksmanship, there are a lot of targets that live to see another day.

Kenneth Logsdon - Posted - 06/08/2010:  06:10:44


Amen Gomer... There are several brands of what we used to call the "cheap scopes" as mentioned that are excellent for use on a plunker .17.. I wouldn't go with a fixed, a four just covers up too much target impact area to take advantage of the "tack driving".. a 3x9/ 40 is a very good choice with out burdening the gun down with a too large and heavy scope...

ncmedic - Posted - 06/08/2010:  06:30:37


Lazyarcher,

go to Cabelas and check this scope out

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dat - Posted - 06/08/2010:  06:58:47


I have a bushnell 3x9 x32 on my 22 mag, it's been on for 15 years or so and wasn't but about 70 dollars, it's as accurate as I need it to be for coyotes out to 100 to 150, not a target scope but it works well for a low recoil gun

pickerjim - Posted - 06/08/2010:  07:11:02


There sure is some fine equipment available now. I don't think we have a "new' scope in our collection of firearms. Some are topped with 3x9's and some .22's with 4x. One huntin buddy loves 4 powers so I guess it's what you're used to, and the terrain you hunt. We have taken alot of game with the Bushnells, tascos, weavers scopes. ...My new VTR will have something sweet on top....Jim

Mopick - Posted - 06/08/2010:  07:22:56


quote:
Originally posted by dat

I have a bushnell 3x9 x32 on my 22 mag, it's been on for 15 years or so and wasn't but about 70 dollars, it's as accurate as I need it to be for coyotes out to 100 to 150, not a target scope but it works well for a low recoil gun



I have a Bushnell 3X-7X variable scope on a Remington .22 I've had since I was 10 years old. I'm 51 now. LOL. That scope has been a lot of fun over the years and I've killed a lot of squirrels with it.


Randy

Bayou Talker - Posted - 06/08/2010:  07:36:37


The smaller the target and the greater the distance the more zoom I like. There is no such thing as a scope with too much zoom. You don't have to use it if you don't want to but it sure is nice when you need it. If only a small part of a small animal is visible at say 100 yards I want to be able to bring it in as close as possible and pick the spot I want to hit. The 17HMR is accurate enough to hit a squirrel in the eye at 100 yards and I want to be able to aim for it. I never cease to be amazed at the accuracy and repeatability of the 17HMR let alone the destructive power of that small bullet.

steve davis - Posted - 06/08/2010:  07:38:16


I have a scope that used to be on my Model 81 .300sav.
It was in a homemade side-mount that wasn't very stable.
I put the scope on a Marlin 22mag and it's very happy there.

There aren't any markings on this scope(post to a hairline).It's 1 inch diam. growing
to 1 3/8 in the last 1 7/8 by 10 5/8 long.

I guess I could hunt through pics of likely names,but is there a better way to figure out what it is?

pickerjim - Posted - 06/08/2010:  17:51:07


Howdy Steve...sounds like this scope has been around for awhile....no stamping or lettering left on the tube....or maybe a letter under the adjustment caps? How about color...might it be a light gray?....we have an old weaver that fits those dimensions with absolutely nothing left to identify it. The crosshairs are barely visible now. I just recently dropped this scope on the cement floor while showing it to someone, and it is now "toast"...lol....Jim

Ray58 - Posted - 06/08/2010:  18:27:48


Just my personal opinion. A 4 power scope on a rifle used for 200 yard shots is a bit little. At that range I'd want nothing less than a 20 power if I expect to hit a target the size of a silver dollar with any accuracy.

Gomer - Posted - 06/08/2010:  19:17:53


I don't know that I would shoot more than a 100 with that round. I shoot point blank out to 335 with my 7mm and .300 bores at 7-9x depending on how hung over I am. I couldn't get a 20 power aimed at anything in time.

pickerjim - Posted - 06/08/2010:  19:36:32


Lazyarcher...are ya takin all this in?...we'll be goin from scopes to squirrel and chuck recipes soon....what a bunch o' banjo pickin, rifle totin chuck thumpin coyote slayers we are...You're my kinda fellas!!
Gimme a mornin in a duck blind..evenin on a bear stand..gruntin in a swamp buck...and a little pickin time....Life is good!!....Jim

steve davis - Posted - 06/08/2010:  19:52:20


It's blued,Jim...probably from the 40s.I believe that's when Gramp traded his .45 for this 81(used from The Gun Doc over in Jefferson.Yes,probably Weaver.

quote:
Originally posted by pickerjim

Howdy Steve...sounds like this scope has been around for awhile....no stamping or lettering left on the tube....or maybe a letter under the adjustment caps? How about color...might it be a light gray?....we have an old weaver that fits those dimensions with absolutely nothing left to identify it. The crosshairs are barely visible now. I just recently dropped this scope on the cement floor while showing it to someone, and it is now "toast"...lol....Jim

Mopick - Posted - 06/09/2010:  05:50:06


quote:
Originally posted by pickerjim

Lazyarcher...are ya takin all this in?...we'll be goin from scopes to squirrel and chuck recipes soon....what a bunch o' banjo pickin, rifle totin chuck thumpin coyote slayers we are...You're my kinda fellas!!
Gimme a mornin in a duck blind..evenin on a bear stand..gruntin in a swamp buck...and a little pickin time....Life is good!!....Jim



squirrel Brunswick stew

Ingredients
10 Squirrels; disjointed
2 cups Corn
1 pounds Bacon; diced
5 pounds Potatoes; diced
2 quarts Tomatoes
3 pounds Onions; diced
2 pounds Lima beans
1 cup Celery; diced
Salt and pepper to taste
¼ cup Worcestershire sauce
Flour

Place the squirrels in a large kettle; add water to half cover. Bring to a boil. Cover and simmer until squirrels are tender. Cool. Remove squirrels from stock and remove meat from bones. Place squirrel meat back into stock and add next nine ingredients; cook two hours. Thicken stew with a small amount of flour mixed with water; simmer 30 minutes longer.

Yield 20 servings

dat - Posted - 06/09/2010:  06:47:46


I have a leupold 6x18 on my 7mm Rem, I've shot 9 shots target shooting at 100 yards that you could cover with a quarter, 200 yards it'll tear up a coke can. it's good to be able to zoom in to see a small target. even a 100 yards with a 22 mag and a 3x9, I'll crank it up to 8 or 9 so I can see better

lazyarcher - Posted - 06/09/2010:  06:50:47


This is all good...God, Guns, and Gibson is all you need to get through the day!

I like a high power scope for varmints and target off the bench. I have a bunch of 3-9s in my cabinet...a few of the last Bausch & Lomb Elites before Bushnell bought them, and they are 1st class....but I'd like something up to 18 or 24X. The old Tasco world class scopes were made in Japan...and they were top notch (I still have a 2.5-10...amazing optics), but I had a couple of 6-24X varment scopes from ?China and the adjustability was crap. Nikon makes a Coyote special that I'm thinking about getting for the .17.

I love squirrel...I think I'd rather eat squirrel than venison some days.

This is a Cajun adaption of squirrel stew that you might like...

Cut up 3-4 squirrels, flour and brown in veg oil...5 - 10 mins. Remove. In the same skillet brown 1 large onion chopped, and 4-5 cloves of garlic chopped--5 mins or until golden. add 1 large can of tomatoes, 1/2 lb cut up hot Italian sausage , 1 cup beef stock, 1/2tsp cinnamon, pinch or cloves & nutmeg, 1 tsp Tobasco sauce or your fav hot sauce to taste. Mix well, then add 4 large carrots cut into 1/2" pieces. Cover and simmer 1hr or until the meat is tender.

Serve with dumplings (I like cheese and Jalapeno) or perogies.


pickerjim - Posted - 06/09/2010:  19:09:13


I haven't had a feed of squirrel in a few yrs...these recipes have me thinkin to get the fellas together and fry up a few. One of our huntin buddies did up some racoon last fall and that was a first for me...nothing wrong with it.
Mopick...that stew recipe looks tempting!! Bet it would work ok for chucks too....I found they are good in sept. cut out the little fat kernels under where the leggs join , cut up, seasoned flour and fry slowly....Good people, few beers, and swap a few tales!!!
Lots of fine scopes nowadays....I need one with some good light gathering features, and a red dot would be good....Jim

midnightbanjo - Posted - 06/09/2010:  19:39:17


I got a good one from Cabelas - it was the 6.5-20 Alaskan Guide series. Bright, clear, and holds POA/POI throughout the magnification range. Great scopes if you can find them.

steve davis - Posted - 06/09/2010:  21:27:50


I haven't tried squirrel,yet...I bet it's fine.
The best tasting meat I've eaten was Porcupine cubed,put in a skillet
on a bed of embers in a Vermont Castings Vigilant woodstove in a log cabin
in Industry Maine during a blizzard in '78.

pickerjim - Posted - 06/10/2010:  07:48:41


Howdy Steve.....Porcupines supply their own toothpicks....Porky recipes were in a wild game cookbook we had, although I never tried it. You will like squirrel!! I always found eating wild critters tastes better in the exact situation you mention in the cabin in Maine. Had lots of bear meat turned into sausages and we cooked them in camp like you mention. We have neighbors who love beaver hams, and my dad supplied them with many. Financially they didn't need this meat, but enjoyed the taste!!....They eat the tails too!!....Jim
Lazy Archer...sorry for goin off topic on your post.
Midnightbanjo...The Alaskan guide series scope...is it not available anymore?

lazyarcher - Posted - 06/10/2010:  18:40:31


quote:
Originally posted by pickerjim

Howdy Steve.....Porcupines supply their own toothpicks....Porky recipes were in a wild game cookbook we had, although I never tried it. You will like squirrel!! I always found eating wild critters tastes better in the exact situation you mention in the cabin in Maine. Had lots of bear meat turned into sausages and we cooked them in camp like you mention. We have neighbors who love beaver hams, and my dad supplied them with many. Financially they didn't need this meat, but enjoyed the taste!!....They eat the tails too!!....Jim
Lazy Archer...sorry for goin off topic on your post.
Midnightbanjo...The Alaskan guide series scope...is it not available anymore?




No worries..I love when these threads find their own path!!

I've been to a couple of trapper dinners over the years and got to sample some unusual wild game meats. Coon was good, as was roasted beaver. Didnt care for muskrat, but porkupine was great. The best there? Bobcat.



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