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erstokke - Posted - 08/16/2009:  14:34:52


I really like the sound of the banjo on "Like A Songbird That Has Fallen" on the Cold Mountain soundtrack. I think it is Roy Andrede Andrade playing - who usually plays an Ome.

But what do you think has been used on this soundtrack? And is it a Tu-Ba-Phone or an Ome Silver Spun tone ring?


My banjo is pre-war. Pre the next war
Jan Erik from Norway


Edited by - erstokke on 08/22/2009 02:18:00

chip arnold - Posted - 08/16/2009:  15:35:17


Well, if it sounds good it must be an OME ;-)

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Give what is taken

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RPM - Posted - 08/17/2009:  16:48:23


I think his last name is Andrade...

Anyway, check him out on this video playing Seed of the Pine with Martha Scanlan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XHZO9s1Hmk


Bisbonian - Posted - 08/19/2009:  20:20:00


I am just captivated by his banjo (and her voice) in "Little Bird of Heaven". Does anybody know anything about the history of that song?

"When Banjos are Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Banjos."

brokenstrings - Posted - 08/19/2009:  20:26:53


I loved ALL the music in that film, banjo and otherwise.

Jessy

Frailaway, ladies, frailaway!

dbrooks - Posted - 08/20/2009:  05:54:20


Martha Scanlan worte and sang "Little Bird of Heaven" with the Reeltime Travelers, I believe. The band has broken up and Martha put out a solo CD.

Roy Andrade is a fine banjo player and wrote the cover story interview with Jody Stecher in the August Banjo Newsletter.

David

steelhead - Posted - 08/20/2009:  08:03:20


If my memory serves me correctly Martha won second place in Merlefest's Chris Austin song writing competition with "Little Bird of Heaven" a few years ago. I believe she also won first place with "Hallelujah" but no banjo....only guitar and fiddle on this one.

Matt Buckley - Posted - 08/20/2009:  09:19:49


quote:
Originally posted by steelhead

If my memory serves me correctly Martha won second place in Merlefest's Chris Austin song writing competition with "Little Bird of Heaven" a few years ago. I believe she also won first place with "Hallelujah" but no banjo....only guitar and fiddle on this one.



I think Martha is an extremely talented songwriter, and her singing is captivating. Hallelujah in particular is an amazing bit of songwriting.

I bought the solo CD, but was really disappointed. Martha's voice is all about subtlety and inflection, and I thought Levon Helm's drum work
overwhelmed all the finest qualities of Martha's voice. Levon's a fine musician and producer, but I didn't feel he at all captured the essence of Martha's talent.



Cheers, Matt

deso - Posted - 08/20/2009:  10:00:19


quote:
Originally posted by brokenstrings

I loved ALL the music in that film, banjo and otherwise.

Jessy

Frailaway, ladies, frailaway!


Unfortunately the music in the soundtrack CD isn't the same music from the film!

Deke

agent369 - Posted - 08/20/2009:  13:49:59


Matt.. have you heard this recording of Martha and the Stuart Brothers?
tasty stuff indeed.


""The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell "

agent369 - Posted - 08/20/2009:  13:50:55


opps... this>>> http://www.reunanen.net/livegraphy/marthalive.html


""The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell "

brokenstrings - Posted - 08/20/2009:  20:32:08


quote:
Originally posted by deso

quote:
Originally posted by brokenstrings

I loved ALL the music in that film, banjo and otherwise.

Jessy

Frailaway, ladies, frailaway!


Unfortunately the music in the soundtrack CD isn't the same music from the film!

Deke



Why do they do things like that? Same was true of Songcatcher.

Jessy

Frailaway, ladies, frailaway!

erstokke - Posted - 08/22/2009:  02:08:11


From both the videos you have posted, it looks like he is playing a 12" Ome Jubilee or Juniper (because there is no binding) with fiberskyn head. Whats inside is of course impossible to see, but it may well be the standard rolled brass ring.


My banjo is pre-war. Pre the next war
Jan Erik from Norway

GerryH - Posted - 08/22/2009:  05:50:43


I was not familar with Martha Scanlon or Ray Andrade. Sure enjoyed the youtube clip posted by RPM.
GerryH

Matt Buckley - Posted - 08/22/2009:  06:15:29


quote:
Originally posted by erstokke

From both the videos you have posted, it looks like he is playing a 12" Ome Jubilee or Juniper (because there is no binding) with fiberskyn head. Whats inside is of course impossible to see, but it may well be the standard rolled brass ring.


I'm fairly certain, based upon the inlay pattern, that it's a Jubillee. Therefore without the rolled brass tonering. Wooden tone ring instead. Played a banjo exactly like this a year ago at Music Emporium.

Cheers, Matt

erstokke - Posted - 08/25/2009:  10:19:31


You can order any Ome banjo with the tone ring of your choice.

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Buckley

quote:
Originally posted by erstokke

From both the videos you have posted, it looks like he is playing a 12" Ome Jubilee or Juniper (because there is no binding) with fiberskyn head. Whats inside is of course impossible to see, but it may well be the standard rolled brass ring.


I'm fairly certain, based upon the inlay pattern, that it's a Jubillee. Therefore without the rolled brass tonering. Wooden tone ring instead. Played a banjo exactly like this a year ago at Music Emporium.

Cheers, Matt




My banjo is pre-war. Pre the next war
Jan Erik from Norway

bluemule_77 - Posted - 08/25/2009:  12:17:06


It's true. There was an Ome Jubilee (the base model) for sale in the classifieds a few days ago with the Silverspun (Silver Bell) tone ring. $1200. Couldn't get it together quick enough. Now it's gone! Argh.

BM

notserp89m - Posted - 08/25/2009:  18:42:36


It's a beautiful sounding banjo. Roy teaches at ETSU which i might be attending next fall and i am hoping to get private lessons with him, that would very very cool.

stevebo - Posted - 08/25/2009:  18:54:39


I love that soundtrack---------I bought a copy of it in early summer when we drove the blueridge parkway in North Carolina. (theres a blue grass music center right off the parkway---------very cool!) Actually, that had a lot to do with me buying a banjo---------kind of got the ball rolling!

erstokke - Posted - 08/29/2009:  05:43:18


Hopefully it is on it’s way over to my house.

quote:
Originally posted by bluemule_77

It's true. There was an Ome Jubilee (the base model) for sale in the classifieds a few days ago with the Silverspun (Silver Bell) tone ring. $1200. Couldn't get it together quick enough. Now it's gone! Argh.

BM




My banjo is pre-war. Pre the next war
Jan Erik from Norway

bluemule_77 - Posted - 08/31/2009:  20:44:59


quote:
Originally posted by erstokke

Hopefully it is on it’s way over to my house.

quote:
Originally posted by bluemule_77

It's true. There was an Ome Jubilee (the base model) for sale in the classifieds a few days ago with the Silverspun (Silver Bell) tone ring. $1200. Couldn't get it together quick enough. Now it's gone! Argh.

BM




My banjo is pre-war. Pre the next war
Jan Erik from Norway



Really? Did you get it?
BM

RWPark - Posted - 09/13/2009:  09:44:06


Anybody have a tab for "Little Bird of Heaven"? The tunes in my head but I'm not sure if it's in G or C.

I prefer to resonate internally...

bluemule_77 - Posted - 09/13/2009:  13:56:16


It's in C. A group I play with does it in D, but either way I use the double C/D tuning. I could tab out what I play but it's not exactly as done by Roy! Let me know if you'd like me to.

BM

J-Walk - Posted - 09/13/2009:  18:51:18


If you tend to rely on tabs to learn new tunes, "Little Bird" is a good one to learn by ear. Try Double C, close your eyes, and let the beautiful voice guide your fingers.

dhall08@snet.net - Posted - 11/01/2009:  14:55:02


Don't know if I'm doing this right or not, as I'm real new to posting here, but I'm sure that the Cold Mountain song "Like a Songbird That Has Fallen" is in C, and is almost certainly played in double-C tuning. It has a lot of Johnson Boys in it, and some Angeline The Baker too. Think of how you play those songs and this one gets easier. It's a fine song, and I'm hoping someone here can help me with some of the lyrics. I can't figure out the last line of the chorus:

"from this frozen shadow valley....?"

And what about this, from the second verse:

"Warms the bitter heart and heartache till the....?"

I don't think the lyrics I found on the Internet are right. Help? Thanks to all.

pastorharry - Posted - 11/02/2009:  13:57:53


quote:
Originally posted by RPM

I think his last name is Andrade...

Anyway, check him out on this video playing Seed of the Pine with Martha Scanlan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XHZO9s1Hmk






Nice playing, I find her voice a bit annoying however.



dbrooks - Posted - 11/04/2009:  10:18:04


Dhall, I struggled for a while trying to figure out the words. The web sites with lyrics all repeated the same errors. I listened to several recordings, including some concerts by the Reeltime Travelers, and the lyrics didn't seem totally consistent even then.

I don't claim to have it right, but here's what I ended up with (until I hear something different in the tune):

Like a Songbird That Has Fallen

Paths are there for us to follow, this is gospel I believe.
Angels are around us flying, truth and mercy to receive.
Pictures of uncommon nature, painted by a master’s hand
Draw me ever on life's journey, rendered thus to understand.

As a songbird that is fallen, only to regain the sky,
from this frozen shadow valley may my spirit fly.

Love is from no distance calling, faithful as the rising sun,
Warms the bitter stone of heartache till the least of it is gone
Clouds of fear and misconception, wax and wane as if the moon
So is innocence forsaken, till the will of God be known

As a songbird that is fallen, only to regain the sky,
from this frozen shadow valley may my spirit fly.

David


whyteman - Posted - 11/04/2009:  21:16:16


Did Martha Scanlon write the fiddle tune "Crossing the Little Doe River"? It's a great neo-traditional fiddle tune.

Don.

Haul off your overcoat and roll up your sleeve.

tonehead - Posted - 11/05/2009:  13:22:07


"Did Martha Scanlon write the fiddle tune "Crossing the Little Doe River"? It's a great neo-traditional fiddle tune."

She sure did.

I saw her ( and band) at Merlefest 2006 on Sunday. She did a beautiful job with "Come Thou Fount" set to a different tune than the std hymn. It's on her CD 'The West was Burning". Good stuff.





Play it like you mean it.

whyteman - Posted - 11/07/2009:  07:38:45


Does she play fiddle? Any good?

Or did she she just write it for her fiddler, or maybe as a guitar piece?

BTW, thanks for clearing that up.

Don.

Haul off your overcoat and roll up your sleeve.



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