Banjo - Posted - 10/05/2008:  14:20:37

I was looking up recognition days here;http://www.louderbacks.com/home/dict/days.html
and here;
http://www.uga.edu/housing/racahome...altheme.html
and i cannot seem to find a BANJO RECOGNITION DAY.

So what does a person have to go through to get something as important to our culture as the banjo its own recognition day anyway?

This Instrument itself is known worldwide deserving the banjo a place in the international showcase and we have the added importance of the five string banjo invented in the United States giving us a national recognition day as well.

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Edited by - Banjo on 10/05/2008 14:23:31

Ks_5-picker - Posted - 10/05/2008:  17:50:59

Hey Greg,how's it goin? It's nice to have a dream.
Methinks you overestimate the popularity of our beloved 'jo.

Rod

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banjonz - Posted - 10/05/2008:  18:24:36

I'd vote for it!

Wayne
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brokenstrings - Posted - 10/05/2008:  18:30:20

Yep, me too.

Jessy

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Bluegrass - Posted - 10/05/2008:  19:01:03

Yeah, and on the Recognition Day we can all bring our banjos out into the streets and play FMB.

John

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SandyR - Posted - 10/06/2008:  01:32:04

The town I live in, there'd either be an ordinance against it (they'd draft one on the spot if necessary) or they'd be glad to have all the banjos in one place for at least a little while. Banjos get about as much respect as accordions or, I'm told, violas in orchestras.

farley - Posted - 10/06/2008:  04:31:45

I don't think I'd need a "Banjo Recognition Day" at all. Usually I am pretty good at figuring out if it is a banjo or not. Sometimes it takes me a while, but eventually it comes to me and I know it's a Banjo. Farley

littlepicker - Posted - 10/06/2008:  12:05:04

quote:

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Originally posted by Bluegrass

Yeah, and on the Recognition Day we can all bring our banjos out into the streets and play FMB.

John

Duct Tape it is like the Force. It had a light side a dark side and Holds the universe together.

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Mimspicker - Posted - 10/08/2008:  07:42:58

I think it's a good idea. I'm going to draft a resolution and send it to my congressman and ask him to submit it to the U.S. House for consideration. The worst that could happen is for him to say no!

Edit: Can anybody give me a banjo appropriate date?

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sdfarris - Posted - 10/08/2008:  09:03:11

I propose January 6, Earl's birthday, as International Banjo Recognition Day. At noon EST (North Carolina time), all banjo players world-wide would gather together in local groups and play "Foggy Mountain Breakdown".

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imac50 - Posted - 10/08/2008:  09:32:08

Jan 6th would clash with International Earl Scruggs Day thus depriving us of 2 holidays - one for Earl's day and one for Banjo day. Can we have it in the summer so that we can get outside to play. (Sorry all you southern hemispherans)

Iain
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rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/08/2008:  13:38:24

Go here: http://www.talklikeapirate.com/
We don't need to vote for it, we don't need no Act of Congress, Presidential Decree, etc. These guys decided, possibly after several rounds of grog, to DECLARE International Talk Like A Pirate Day. They do it every year, and since they have a web site, other like minded folks join in.
So , what we need is a Declaration, and a web site. We can publicize the web site right here on the Hangout, with the proper permission. Possibly also on some other similar sites.We can even have two, one for each hemisphere, if y'all like . I can write a Declaration, if any one is willing to go along with such shenanigans. But my computer skills are very limited. I haven't a clue what it takes to make/post a web site. I only know how to visit them. Any computer-savvy volunteers out there?
Paul

"A master banjo player isn''t the one who can play the most notes. It''s the one who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello

Edited by - rendesvous1840 on 10/10/2008 03:56:03

rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/08/2008:  13:50:34

Whereas, it having been IGNORED for too many years by the various Congresses, Parliaments, Presidents, Kings, Dictators,&c, And Whereas, All like-minded Banjo-loving persons, dogs, cats, birds amphibians,reptiles,etc are in concordance on this being necessary to the well-being of banjo players, makers, fans,and humanity in general, And Whereas, no other persons, dogs cats, amphibians or reptiles have seen fit to step up and do what needs doing, All of us Banjo Hangerouters do hereby DECLARE and DECREE that there shall henceforth and forever be An International BANJO APPRECIATION and RECOGNITION DAY, or Days, date or dates to be decided by consent of those Hangerouters joining in this DECLARATION. Herein subscribed by my two-finger style of OLDE TYME TYPING on This Eighth Day Of October, in the year of 2008. Can I get an AMEN on that?
Now, go pick one in honor of this momentous occasion.
Paul
Edit: My wife said I shoulda proof-read it , and fixed my spelling and etc. So I did it after the fact. Or maybe after the fiction.

"A master banjo player isn''t the one who can play the most notes. It''s the one who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello

Edited by - rendesvous1840 on 03/25/2009 20:27:49

imac50 - Posted - 10/08/2008:  14:07:03

When was FMB first recorded? Maybe that date would suffice?

Iain
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thekinetic - Posted - 10/09/2008:  11:22:26

I agree, banjo pickers will be heard at least till all the people listening run for the hills!

Pickin & grinnin

rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/09/2008:  20:13:22

I don't know when FMB was first recorded, but maybe the focus should be on the instrument, not on a specific style or player. There are tenor banjos, ukulele banjos, mandolin banjos, Dixieland , Old Time and Bluegrass styles. My opinion is we should unite, not compartmentalize us all.A world-wide banjo celebration day. Every banjo player is a part of WE. I'm open for opinions, this wasn't my idea, I just jumped in when I saw the original post by Banjo. And I like a whole lot of music, even some that doesn't have a banjo on it!
Paul

"A master banjo player isn''t the one who can play the most notes. It''s the one who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello

mike gregory - Posted - 10/10/2008:  01:19:07

quote:

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Originally posted by rendesvous1840

Whereas, it having been IGNORED for too many years by the various Congresses, Parliaments, Presidents, Kings, Dictators,&c, And Whereas, All like-minded Banjo-loving persons, dogs, cats, birds amphibians,reptiles,etc are in concordance on this being necessary to the well-being of banjo players, makers, fans,and humanity in general, And Whereas, no other persons, dogs cats, amphibians or reptiles have seen fit to step up and do what needs doing, All of us Banjo Hangerouters do hereby DECLARE and DECREE that there shall henceforth and forever be An International BANJO RECOGNITION DAY, or Days, date or dates to be decided by consent of those Hangerouters joining in this DECLARATION. Herein subscribed by my two-finger style of OLDE TYME TYPING on This Eighth Day Of October, in the year of 2008. Can I get an AMEN on that?
Now, go pick one in honor of this momentous occasion.
Paul
Edit: My wife said I shoulda proof-read it , and fixed my spelling and etc. So I did it after the fact. Or maybe after the fiction.

"A master banjo player isn''t the one who can play the most notes. It''s the one who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello

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rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/10/2008:  03:53:31

Now, if some 'puter-savvy type would create us a web site,and we could pick a date or two, we'd have it all set up.
Paul

"A master banjo player isn''t the one who can play the most notes. It''s the one who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello

OSCAR82AA - Posted - 10/12/2008:  17:34:22

Great Idea.

brokenstrings - Posted - 10/12/2008:  21:36:28

The ideal date would be the date Joel Walker Sweeney first performed in public or first added an extra string to the banjo (though you'd be hard-put to track that down).

Jessy

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rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/13/2008:  09:41:52

I'm mostly inclined to pick a day in the Summer, when a lot of people are at a festival or workshop, and can celebrate it together, but this is a cooperative effort, and all suggestions should be considered by all who choose to respond. Maybe we'll have nominations and vote on it. Acording to the liner notes in The Essential Earl Scruggs, FMB was recorded on Dec.11, 1949. I'll look into a date for Sweeney and see what I can find. Research is a fun thing.
Paul

"A master banjo player isn''t the one who can play the most notes. It''s the one who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello

sangrej - Posted - 10/13/2008:  10:03:51

quote:

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Originally posted by Sandy Rothman

The town I live in, there'd either be an ordinance against it (they'd draft one on the spot if necessary) or they'd be glad to have all the banjos in one place for at least a little while. Banjos get about as much respect as accordions or, I'm told, violas in orchestras.

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Banjo - Posted - 10/13/2008:  12:17:31

quote:

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Originally posted by Ks_5-picker

Hey Greg,how's it goin? It's nice to have a dream.
Methinks you overestimate the popularity of our beloved 'jo.

Rod

http://banjolounge.ivocalize.net/.

videos of my daughters band
New videos added May 08

I''d rather have a banjo in front of me
than a frontal laBanjomy.

http://www.youtube.com/profile_vide...heNRBand&p=r

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rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/13/2008:  12:44:44

The closest I have found for a date of Sweeney's first performance was "early 1830's", just a trifle to vague to use as a Day of Feasting and Celebration. His birthday seems almost as vague, onl;y known as 1810. Perhaps a search of Appomattox records will narrow it further. Date of death is Qct. 29, 1860. That's a start, and a possible contender.His gravestone only has year of birth/death, but I know where to find it, if anyone's interested.Back to the present; I have to get ready for my ongoing' gig as guitarist with the local Hula Club. More tomorrow.
Paul

"A master banjo player isn''t the one who can play the most notes. It''s the one who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello

rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/15/2008:  12:21:01

I lied; I didn't have any more info yesterday. Or today. Open for more ideas, and still need someone with computer knowlege to at least tell me how to create a web site so the Banjo World can beat a path to our collective door.
Paul

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http://www.banjohangout.org/forum/t...IC_ID=128303

rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/17/2008:  18:08:13

http://www.musicguidebook.com/articles/banjo
This link has a bunch of dates that correspond to notable happenings of meaning to banjo enthusiasts, such as ours truly. Alas, only years are given. It seems as though no one with the forsight to record complete dates was available when these important events occured. More's the pity.
Meanwhile, if no one posts to this topic, it may find itself burried in the archives. But I KNOW WHO YOU ALL ARE, and when it's time to vote on anything of importance, I'll let you know. You can run, but you sure can't hide. If anyone else out there lurking wants to be notified of voting, just post on this topic so I can identify you later.
Paul

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Bob Robert - Posted - 10/18/2008:  06:20:47

Would this be an INTERNATIONAL Banjo Recognition Day? I'd be in favor of that. I'd like to be notified if anything comes of this.
As was mentioned earlier in the thread, I think it would be good to be nonspecific about what kind of banjo or style. As important as he is to American banjodom, let's not make it an Earl Day.

Bob

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot

rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/18/2008:  14:57:25

Banjo's original post said International in it; in any case, my personal opinion would be the more the merrier, in banjo types, styles of music, and national origins of the players. We have had replies from 5 countries so far, US, New Zealand, Canada, Scotland and China. Also, by making it International, we are recognizing this on our own, and don't need to wait on any government approval to make it official. Heck, I consider it official already. We have a consesus of all who have replied that this is a good idea, we have a Proclamation, and we don't have any one telling us we can't. A done deal, I'd say. How do I create a web site to post it on? And how much does it cost to have such a web site? That is the one thing that could break us, I think.
Paul

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rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/18/2008:  15:07:43

Might I suggest a possible idea for International Banjo Recognition Day events? To be an official event, 2 or more persons must gather at some agreed-upon location, on the officially designated date chosen for IBRD, for the purpose of playing music together, and at least some participants must play banjo at said event. Players of other instruments may be included if the organizers of the event wish to include them; we're civilized, aren't we? The time and location of the event must be comunicated to the web site for posting so that all may read about it and marvel that such a wondrous and momentous thing has been scheduled. The posting of pictures or sound files would be nice, but not necessarily required. (I have a hard time posting pix to the Hangout, I'm not computer literate.)
Paul

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rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/24/2008:  21:33:06

How does the last Saturday in June sound for International Banjo Recognition Day? Festivities to be anounced by any who choose to do something Banjo related in commemoration of the ocasion. Large or small groups welcome to schedule festivities at locations of your own choosing. Jam, concert, gathering at a festival, camp or workshop, etc. Players of other instruments welcome to participate.
Paul

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Bob Robert - Posted - 10/26/2008:  05:11:08

Sounds good to me, although I'll be in the US this summer and I was hoping to play my banjo here for the day. Maybe it should be "International Banjo Appreciation Day" so the acronym can be IBAD, which would pretty accurately describe my playing.

Bob

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot

rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/26/2008:  10:22:07

Not a "bad" gag, Bob, but you'll improve. Will we then have to change the name? I'll bet you're better than you let on, now. Where will you be in the US at that time? If we can get enough people involved, there may be a local IBRD event you can attend here, making it more international than purely local folks. That might be just the ticket-international visitors for IBRD. Maybe we should all think of crossing a border when possible. And welcoming visitors to our own areas when they come.
Paul

"A master banjo player isn''t the one who can play the most notes. It''s the one who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello
http://www.banjohangout.org/forum/t...IC_ID=128303

brokenstrings - Posted - 10/26/2008:  22:29:33

I like IBAD--easier to pronounce. IBRD sounds as if you drank some beer down too fast.

Jessy

Frailaway, ladies, frailaway!

rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/27/2008:  10:49:31

Perhaps we should put it to a vote of all the respondents to the original post. What we really need, is someone with computer knowledge to step up and at least explain what is required to create and maintain a web site. I'm in the dark on all that stuff. As a moderator, Jesse, do you have some knowledge on that subject?
Paul

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mike gregory - Posted - 10/27/2008:  19:41:13

"International Banjo Appreciation & Recognition Day"

comes out as "I BARD", which pretty much connects the banjo to the task we perform:
Carrying the tales, musically, from age to age and place to place.

=):{ )
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Banjo - Posted - 10/27/2008:  20:30:48

I prefer the "Fat Over the Meat" definition myself.


Definitions of 'bard' (bärd)
The American Heritage® Dictionary

[Middle English, from Irish and Scottish Gaelic bard, and from Welsh bardd.]

(noun)
1. One of an ancient Celtic order of minstrel poets who composed and recited verses celebrating the legendary exploits of chieftains and heroes.
2. A poet, especially a lyric poet.
(derivatives)
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adjective
Definitions of 'bard' (bärd)
The American Heritage® Dictionary

[Middle English barde, from Old French, from Old Italian barda, from Arabic barda‘a, packsaddle, from Persian pardah; see purdah.]

(noun)
1. A piece of armor used to protect or ornament a horse.
(transitive verb: bard·ed, bard·ing, bards.)
To equip (a horse) with bards.
2. To cover (meat) in thin pieces of bacon or fat to preserve moisture during cooking.

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brokenstrings - Posted - 10/27/2008:  21:54:15

quote:

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Originally posted by rendesvous1840

Perhaps we should put it to a vote of all the respondents to the original post. What we really need, is someone with computer knowledge to step up and at least explain what is required to create and maintain a web site. I'm in the dark on all that stuff. As a moderator, Jesse, do you have some knowledge on that subject?
Paul

"A master banjo player isn''t the one who can play the most notes. It''s the one who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello
http://www.banjohangout.org/forum/t...IC_ID=128303

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brokenstrings - Posted - 10/27/2008:  21:57:11

Come to think of it, what about St. Cecilia's Day? She's the patron saint of music and Purcell was always writing pieces for that day. Including the day he died, I think. Though something more banjo-specific would be better.

Jessy

Frailaway, ladies, frailaway!

Bob Robert - Posted - 10/28/2008:  05:25:42

quote:

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Originally posted by rendesvous1840

Not a "bad" gag, Bob, but you'll improve. Will we then have to change the name? I'll bet you're better than you let on, now. Where will you be in the US at that time? If we can get enough people involved, there may be a local IBRD event you can attend here, making it more international than purely local folks. That might be just the ticket-international visitors for IBRD. Maybe we should all think of crossing a border when possible. And welcoming visitors to our own areas when they come.
Paul

"A master banjo player isn''t the one who can play the most notes. It''s the one who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello
http://www.banjohangout.org/forum/t...IC_ID=128303

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Bob Robert - Posted - 10/28/2008:  05:28:48

IBAD is easier to pronounce, but I'm afraid it might open us up to a lot of the same old banjo jokes. IBARD's also a good idea. Whatever, I like the idea of the day.

Bob

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot

rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/28/2008:  10:51:01

ST. Cecillia sounds like a worthy patron, but the Feast of St. Cecillia is celebrated on Nov. 22, too cold in these northern climes for outdoor celebrations. I think someone above suggested summer for that reason. I had that thought myself, with the thought that at least some people would be at a festival or camp and more people could celebrate together in such cases. But I will certainly go with the concensus, I'm just trying to keep the topic alive, not assume command.
BACON!!! There are very few foods which cannot be improved by the judicious application of BACON! My Doctor doesn't seem to agree, and since my wife had heart trouble last Dec, she has carefully steered us clear of such embellishments to our diet.
I BARD works for me, it covers both suggested names, and has a good ring to it. Probably a White Layde ring, at that.
Bob Robert, I'm in Cleveland, Ohio. If you'll be in the area, maybe we can jam. And any other travellers to N.E. Ohio, think jam and let me know when you're heading this way.
Handel wrote a piece called Ode To St.Cecillia's Day, if anyone wants to learn to play it. I don't know how banjo-friendly it is. Not sure if I can play any Handel, or Purcell on the banjo, but I could attempt to learn. I can manage the Ode To Joy, and a piece of Eine Kleine Nactmusic. I don't know if I spelled that right.
The Celtic minstrell poet angle seems to call out to the banjo; reflecting the Celtic origins of so much BG/ OT music.
I'm not going to concern myself with being the butt of banjo jokes, I tell as many as most people. Those who do so with malicious intent, will continue with or without our help, the heck with 'em.
Paul

"A master banjo player isn''t the one who can play the most notes. It''s the one who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello
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brokenstrings - Posted - 10/28/2008:  20:50:21

Purcell wrote oodles of odes to St. Cecilia's Day. Incidentally, they have a statue of St. Cecilia at the Sienese Academy of Music, but those hallowed halls have heard nothing wilder than classical guitar as far as I know. (Segovia taught workshops there.) Nevertheless, I think St. Cecilia would look kindly on the banjo.

Paul, it's "Eine kleine Nachtmusik" if you're thinking of Mozart and "Eine kleine Nichtmusik" if you're thinking of P.D.Q. Bach (who did write for banjo: viz., the "Bluegrass Cantata").

Jessy

Frailaway, ladies, frailaway!

rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/29/2008:  13:20:41

Thanks for clarifying that, Jessy. It was Mozart I was referring to. My spelling is questionable in english; I never took any other languages.
Paul

"A master banjo player isn''t the one who can play the most notes. It''s the one who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello
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imac50 - Posted - 10/29/2008:  15:22:21

I was going to suggest the 5th day of the 5th month but that wouldn't be so good for the tenors and 6 strings,,,,,,,

Iain
www.iainmaclachlan.com

imac50 - Posted - 10/29/2008:  15:24:55

As for the web page. You would need to register the domain name eg www.banjorecognitionday.com or somesuch and then get web space available to put up the webpages.

Iain
www.iainmaclachlan.com

brokenstrings - Posted - 10/29/2008:  20:00:57

IBARD sounds good to me.

Jessy

Frailaway, ladies, frailaway!

rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/30/2008:  18:50:48

I suggested a Saturday, because I figured more people would be off work and could form jams & such.I work from 3AM to 11:30 am, so evenings during the week are out for me. And most people I could jam with are working day shift, so the afternoon doesn't work for them. Sunday afternoon may work well too, after church services, and a lot of people have the day off. However, the fourth Saturday or Sunday of the fifth month could cover nearly all banjos. No one day will work every year for every person. We do what we can, and miss it when our non-playing spouse's birthday falls on that day. Or our anniversary, etc.
Paul

"A master banjo player isn''t the one who can play the most notes. It''s the one who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello
http://www.banjohangout.org/forum/t...IC_ID=128303

rendesvous1840 - Posted - 10/30/2008:  18:55:20

How or where do we register the name, and what does that entail? Do we have to prove it's ours? Do we need an attourney to do this? I really don't know anything about this stuff.
Paul

"A master banjo player isn''t the one who can play the most notes. It''s the one who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello
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imac50 - Posted - 10/31/2008:  00:56:23

Go to somewhere like http://www.americaregistry.com and check if the name is available. For my own sites I have used
http://www.uk-cheapest.co.uk/ but that may not work in the USA. You pay a small yearly fee for the name and only you can own it. The HAngout must be registered somewhere. Eric will know all about this. Wikipedia has info about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_name




Iain
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