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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: IMPORTANT warning about goatskin hides & anthrax


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sugarinthegourd - Posted - 06/17/2008:  07:39:15


This is not a joke folks. I have shaved & sanded African goatskin hides in the past, but I will not be doing that again.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwR/preview/mmw...mm5723a3.htm

Be careful out there!

best wishes,

John

country frank - Posted - 06/17/2008:  07:42:53


Blimey!!!

Thanks John.

Regards from London.

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Chaoscat - Posted - 06/17/2008:  08:14:28


Jeez, the Scottish guy died and all he did was PLAY one of the contaminated drums. It's enough to make you sit on the other side of the room from anybody playing a djembe.

Bill Rogers - Posted - 06/17/2008:  09:30:47


Nice of the CDC to post that so quickly.

Bill

vforcier - Posted - 06/17/2008:  10:38:52


Not like I needed another reason to avoid drum circles, but now I have one.

Vince Forcier

twhite54 - Posted - 06/17/2008:  11:05:16


just keep ciprofloxacin in your banjo tool kit and you should be fine...


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Gomer - Posted - 06/17/2008:  21:43:56


very scarry! I think I'll stick to Bluegrass

"ever searching for that special post-war / pre-submerged sound"

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Roy Smith - Posted - 06/18/2008:  05:52:04


Thanks for the post, John. This was all news to me, and I'm glad to have the information.

IMHO the most disturbing part is that there seems to be no way for the end user to ensure that any particular goat hide is anthrax-free. A drum or banjo builder, at least, can use domestic hides from a source he knows, but further downstream somebody repairing a banjo who buys a piece of hide for a new head, or even somebody who just plays the thing, has no way of knowing where the hide came from.

I'm not a big fan of goatskin anyway and I think I'll just avoid the stuff from now on. And if I had some in stock (which I don't) I believe I'd throw it out rather than take this risk.

Roy

TMarshall1 - Posted - 06/18/2008:  06:38:02


Wow! Now I'm confused. Does the anthrax occur naturally in the hides or as a byproduct of the skinning / hide prep?

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greadore - Posted - 06/18/2008:  07:40:20


From what I remember reading, the anthrax spores are in the soil in certain parts of the world. A grazing goat can ingest some of the spores or have them get on their hide. It is not a byproduct of skinning / hide prep.

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FScholle - Posted - 06/18/2008:  09:22:52


Anthrax occurs naturally virtually all over the world, inlcuding in the US. It can readily be isolated from soil samples in certain regions in TX, New Mexico etc. Overall the incidence in the US is low and the last case of natural transmission of Anthrax in humans (NOT the Bioterror stuff) was reported in 1992.

mwc9725e - Posted - 06/18/2008:  09:40:04


quote:
Originally posted by sugarinthegourd

This is not a joke folks. I have shaved & sanded African goatskin hides in the past, but I will not be doing that again.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwR/preview/mmw...mm5723a3.htm

Be careful out there!

best wishes,

John





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Roy Smith - Posted - 06/18/2008:  11:03:07


quote:
Originally posted by TMarshall1

Wow! Now I'm confused. Does the anthrax occur naturally in the hides or as a byproduct of the skinning / hide prep?

It's a very nasty livestock disease caused by a bacterium (and transmissible to humans), so these cases were caused by hides taken from infected goats. Even worse, the spores can persist in soil for decades, and by implication they will persist in the hides, too. Which means that as an infected goatskin head wears with use it will release viable spores for as long as it lasts.

Roy

billmill22 - Posted - 06/18/2008:  11:56:54


The key word in the 2007 report is "untreated" Goat hides. Stay away from any un processed skins, no matter what type. When the skins are processed they are safe. Never use-buy- an unprocessed skin for any use.
Bill

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there you will find Musical Happiness"

That Fecker - Posted - 06/18/2008:  14:17:35


Any use other than homicide!

The whole world is a stage and i keep tripping over the leads!

brokenstrings - Posted - 06/19/2008:  21:42:16


Holy cow!

Jessy

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