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Mar 15, 2026 - 5:52:49 AM
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rinemb

USA

17736 posts since 5/24/2005

I need to drill out 6 holes in my steel rims to add hubcap clips. Traditionally the clips are riveted on with round head rivets. I have a pop rivet kit, but don’t really like the look…though they will be hidden under the dog dish hubcaps. I see a lot of other rivet tools that I don’t understand, nor do I know how they were able to rivet a tire rim?
Anyway, if you have suggestions for rivet tools or how to put a tradition rivet on a rim please comment.
Thank you, Brad

Edited by - rinemb on 03/28/2026 15:34:37

Mar 15, 2026 - 6:56:11 AM

martyjoe

Ireland

848 posts since 3/24/2020

I would be concerned about rattles developing over time. After all a banjo vibrates for a living.

Mar 15, 2026 - 7:53:11 AM
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rinemb

USA

17736 posts since 5/24/2005

quote:
Originally posted by martyjoe

I would be concerned about rattles developing over time. After all a banjo vibrates for a living.


If that was the only thing that rattled on my 1952 Chevy truck, I would be a happy trucker. ;-). Brad

Mar 15, 2026 - 7:55:01 AM
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5778 posts since 9/12/2016

sickle bar mowers had all their sections fastened with rivets --I pushed them thru --then put a sledge head or similar under the head side then I used a ball peen to mushroom the other side--the industry finally came up with bolts and lock nuts --which I use now

Mar 15, 2026 - 8:04:07 AM
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RB3

USA

2699 posts since 4/12/2004

If the clips are hidden by the hub caps, why not use a screw and a nut with a nylon insert, instead of a rivet. Button-head, hex socket cap screws don't look bad.

Mar 15, 2026 - 8:06:51 AM

martyjoe

Ireland

848 posts since 3/24/2020

Sorry I thought you were cobbling up some work On steel banjo rim……. Derrrr!

Mar 15, 2026 - 8:10:30 AM
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Owen

Canada

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Probably non-traditional, but ....................................... ??

 

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Mar 15, 2026 - 8:31:17 AM

Nopix

USA

291 posts since 6/11/2025

Maybe not a stick welder, but a wire welder. Plenty expensive gadget for three or four tiny welds.

Are you or have you actually drilled through the rim yet? I thought those were acceptionally hard.

Mar 15, 2026 - 8:42:39 AM
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rinemb

USA

17736 posts since 5/24/2005

quote:
Originally posted by Nopix

Maybe not a stick welder, but a wire welder. Plenty expensive gadget for three or four tiny welds.

Are you or have you actually drilled through the rim yet? I thought those were acceptionally hard.


I am sure they are hard.  I never tried to drill a rim.  I have seen clips that were welded on though.  Brad

Mar 15, 2026 - 8:59:45 AM

Nopix

USA

291 posts since 6/11/2025

I would only try to drill it with a small bit I wouldn't mind to loose.
I'm sure factories spot-weld the clips on.
A body shop would probably have a small wire welder, for welding sheet metal.
Four small spots (plug welds) wouldn't take the temper out of the entire rim.

Mar 15, 2026 - 3:36:07 PM

Owen

Canada

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This site https:   //www.google.com/search?q=how+hard+is+steel+in+old+car+rim%3F&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA1116CA1116&oq=how+hard+is+steel+in+old+car+rim%3F&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRifBTIHCAUQIRifBTIHCAYQIRifBTIHCAcQIRifBTIHCAgQIRifBTIHCAkQIRifBdIBCTExOTc3ajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 

says, among other things that, "...they are not "hard" in the way tool steel or hardened steel is—they are relatively soft, which allows them to bend rather than snap."

[Steve, as it's Brad's money, I have no qualms about making suggestions.... heck if he doesn't already have a welder, he probably should.  devil ]

Edited by - Owen on 03/15/2026 15:51:22

Mar 15, 2026 - 3:43:40 PM

Nopix

USA

291 posts since 6/11/2025

Could be.
The last rim I played with was chrome plated.
Takes but a minute to come at it with a drill.

Mar 15, 2026 - 5:33:07 PM
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rinemb

USA

17736 posts since 5/24/2005

I have considered little wire feed welders, but never made the effort to learn any kind of welding. Mt brother does have a welder, and he does small things for me, and won’t let me pay him. With the prior very small welders thing I told home next job I will insist on paying him. He is a super guy and will do any thing for me bro. Brad

Mar 18, 2026 - 8:47:12 AM

9295 posts since 9/5/2006

huck rivet would hold pretty good .. harbor freight has a 1/4 inch huck gun for 70 dollars and i am sure they may have the hck rivets too.

Edited by - 1935tb-11 on 03/18/2026 08:50:33

Mar 18, 2026 - 9:25:16 AM
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rinemb

USA

17736 posts since 5/24/2005

quote:
Originally posted by 1935tb-11

huck rivet would hold pretty good .. harbor freight has a 1/4 inch huck gun for 70 dollars and i am sure they may have the hck rivets too.


huck rivet, eh....well on to google I go to figure out what that is.  It could be the trick...if I can make the holes?  Thanks, Brad

Mar 28, 2026 - 2:42:48 PM
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rinemb

USA

17736 posts since 5/24/2005

My hubcap clips project is done. I ended up drilling the 3/16” holes with no problem or special bits. Itty bitty hole then then drilled out to size. I wish my 3/16” rivets fit my 3/16” holes. My old bit perhaps worn to under size diameter? So I had to do a bit of wallering out of the holes. Anyway to rig up a system to flatten out the back of the aluminum rivets was a pain. Repainted the rims and new clips and put them back on the truck. I grabbed a beer, sat down on the patio and ordered my new dog dishes. Chrome with red Chevrolet lettering. Brad


 

Mar 28, 2026 - 2:53:06 PM

Owen

Canada

19108 posts since 6/5/2011
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Lookin' good.   yes

Re. flattening out the back of the rivet ..... didn't they have a head?

Edit: Ooops!  On closer look I think I see the head on the outside.... so can understand the swedging (?) would be down in a bit of a depression/hollow on the backside.

Edited by - Owen on 03/28/2026 15:00:21

Mar 28, 2026 - 3:38:35 PM
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rinemb

USA

17736 posts since 5/24/2005

quote:
Originally posted by Owen

Lookin' good.   yes

Re. flattening out the back of the rivet ..... didn't they have a head?

Edit: Ooops!  On closer look I think I see the head on the outside.... so can understand the swedging (?) would be down in a bit of a depression/hollow on the backside.


They are solid rivets.  Even the aluminum took some pounding.  I bought a concave rivet tool and mounted it in vice grips, then rested the head on that while I beat on the other end with a ball peen hammer.

Mar 29, 2026 - 10:11:32 AM

9295 posts since 9/5/2006

you be ridin in style when the dog dishes arrive !!!

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