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Feb 27, 2026 - 4:58:14 AM
44800 posts since 3/5/2008

Has run ..Ahmuck...
Thinking USA...
Becose that is where I am..
To me one of the very first signs of this is when..

You collect scrap metals n bring the to the scrap yard.. for a bit of $cash..

All of a sudden you must show ..I.D. ..to get paid as so you can be ..Taxed on it...

Hope that dose not happen to the bottle n can redemption folks..
Lord ..Knows ..them folks gots ..ALL...THE $ IN THE WORLD...
They get all that $.. n thiers mates are free..... :0/

Feb 27, 2026 - 5:07:04 AM

44800 posts since 3/5/2008

All of a sudden you must show ..I.D. ..to get paid as so you can be ..Taxed on it...

Wow...it just hit me...
Junk Yards are...Racist...... :0/

Feb 27, 2026 - 8:52:44 AM

9310 posts since 9/5/2006

heck fig our local scrap yard has been doing ID checks for years... show'em your license or no checky .........

usually around here if it is under 400 bucks we don't worry bout it.

Edited by - 1935tb-11 on 02/27/2026 08:54:31

Feb 27, 2026 - 9:01:48 AM
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16089 posts since 1/15/2005

Al ..... I doubt that they are doing so you can be taxed, as I doubt they send that information to the IRS. I suspect they do it for the same reason pawn shops require an ID when you sell gold or silver. When the authorities investigate a theft of gold, silver, copper, or probably any scrap metal (including catatylic converters) they want to know who sold them to the dealer.

Feb 27, 2026 - 10:50:04 AM
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1466 posts since 2/11/2019

I know around here it has nothing to do with taxes. A lot of construction sites were having copper wire and plumbing stolen and taken to scrapyards.  It was so bad that you could look at utility poles in any given neighborhood and the bare #6 copper ground wire going from the neutral to the ground rods were missing from the sidewalk to about 7' above the ground.

We get a lot of scrap wire from legit demo on jobsites and that's my beer money that Uncle Sam don't know about.

Edited by - Mad Hornet on 02/27/2026 10:51:55

Feb 27, 2026 - 1:31:13 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Mad Hornet

I know around here it has nothing to do with taxes. A lot of construction sites were having copper wire and plumbing stolen and taken to scrapyards.  It was so bad that you could look at utility poles in any given neighborhood and the bare #6 copper ground wire going from the neutral to the ground rods were missing from the sidewalk to about 7' above the ground.

We get a lot of scrap wire from legit demo on jobsites and that's my beer money that Uncle Sam don't know about.

 


Yep.  

 

https://mynorthwest.com/kiro-opinion/seattle-homeless-camp-copper/4209125

And...

https://mynorthwest.com/kiro-opinion/copper-wire-theft/4208510

They can't keep the trains running because the tweakers keep stealing the wire.

Edited by - Jon Borcherding on 02/27/2026 13:33:06

Feb 27, 2026 - 1:40:12 PM

1466 posts since 2/11/2019

quote:
Originally posted by Jon Borcherding
quote:
Originally posted by Mad Hornet

I know around here it has nothing to do with taxes. A lot of construction sites were having copper wire and plumbing stolen and taken to scrapyards.  It was so bad that you could look at utility poles in any given neighborhood and the bare #6 copper ground wire going from the neutral to the ground rods were missing from the sidewalk to about 7' above the ground.

We get a lot of scrap wire from legit demo on jobsites and that's my beer money that Uncle Sam don't know about.

 


Yep.  

 

https://mynorthwest.com/kiro-opinion/seattle-homeless-camp-copper/4209125

And...

https://mynorthwest.com/kiro-opinion/copper-wire-theft/4208510

They can't keep the trains running because the tweakers keep stealing the wire.


Oh dang propane tanks too.  Another reason to bury them.

Feb 27, 2026 - 1:49:12 PM
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chuckv97

Canada

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Nobody at the farmers market where I busk has asked me for ID …… yet

Feb 27, 2026 - 1:54:25 PM
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Owen

Canada

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Dunno just how much copper there is in a transformer, but apparently even being live/in-service isn't always sufficient deterrent: 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/live-power-pole-theft-in-rural-leaves-local-rcmp-stumped-9.7103725

Edited by - Owen on 02/27/2026 13:56:05

Feb 27, 2026 - 2:01:30 PM

1466 posts since 2/11/2019

I know awhile back they found a perp in a West Virginia substation attempting something like this. He was quite crispy!

Edited by - Mad Hornet on 02/27/2026 14:03:41

Feb 27, 2026 - 4:39:18 PM

454 posts since 5/13/2024
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quote:
Originally posted by Mad Hornet

Oh dang propane tanks too.  Another reason to bury them.


I think the media got that wrong.  They say the thieves are stealing the tanks for the brass valves, but brass doesn't pay that much and there isn't enough brass to make it worth stealing the tanks.  They were probably just stealing the tanks to power their heaters.

Back when meth labs were more prevalent, the "cooks" would use propane tanks to hold anhydrous ammonia.  If you came across a dump in the woods and found a tank with lots of fuzzy green corrosion on the brass valve, it was almost certainly one of those tanks and could quite possibly still hold enough ammonia to kill you if you it got out.  This info comes from a family member who was a narcotics detective.

Feb 28, 2026 - 7:46:15 AM

44800 posts since 3/5/2008

I put a bullet hole in the junk ones..n the scrap yards take then that way..

Feb 28, 2026 - 8:31:32 AM
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banjoy

USA

11941 posts since 7/1/2006

ID is required here and has been for years, but not for taxes, but because of theft of metals like copper, etc. You have to prove you're authorized to sell the metal, and not just a thief selling ripped off scrap.

Feb 28, 2026 - 3:33:19 PM
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donc

Canada

7768 posts since 2/9/2010

About 7 years ago the theft of catalytic converters became a major problem. The newer cars are designed to make the theft impossible without a real hoist . Many of the cheaper vehicles are no longer using expensive metals in their converters. Fortunately the legislators finally woke up and began to enforce the junk dealers. They are now required to get names, addresses, and the vehicle license plate of the scrap collector.

Feb 28, 2026 - 6:08:24 PM

44800 posts since 3/5/2008

Tax Implications: While IDs are primarily for tracking theft, income from scrap metal is taxable. Keep detailed records of your sales for tax purposes (such as tracking expenses to report net profit on a Schedule C).
P&T Metals
P&T Metals
+6
Commonly

From google.

Mar 2, 2026 - 2:52:49 PM
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banjoy

USA

11941 posts since 7/1/2006

The only way this will be reported is if the scrap yard collected your taxpayer information. Did they have you fill out a IRS W9 Form (Request for Taxpayer Information) or collect your social security number? If they did, expect to see a 1099 next year. If not, they have no way to report this and you have no worries (overreacting).

I doubt you have any worries here.

Mar 3, 2026 - 1:05:52 AM

44800 posts since 3/5/2008

I spoze you are correct Frank..
Ai... could never keep track of that...
Through out history.. if there is a way to yousurp... $..from the pop-youlation...
It gets implahmented...
Just sayin..

Same thing goes fer weapons..
If it can be made to kill effectivly...somebody..Will do it...

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