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Feb 7, 2026 - 8:08:50 AM
1183 posts since 2/6/2006

Just asking to see if there’s any consensus on what peghead geared tuners folks go to when adding a 5-string neck to pre-war style 1’s & 11’s?
Thanks!

Feb 7, 2026 - 10:00:03 AM
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16408 posts since 10/30/2008

I don't have a particular brand in mine; in the old days I used to rely on Stew Mac 5 Star Planets with never a problem.

However, I'm a little wiser now about a few things. How deeply the neck and peghead sit in the banjo case might influence choice of tuners based on how LONG they are. You don't want the tuner resting on the tuning buttons in direct contact with the bottom of the case! This can stress the neck into some forward bow, unless you're adept at building up the "cradle" on the end of the pick box, to get the tuners up and off the bottom of the case. In general if I were buying a set of tuners nowadays, I'd lean toward "shorter" ones.

Planetaries, and the Kluson stair step box bodied tuners, tend to the long side.

Just something to keep in mind.

Feb 7, 2026 - 11:18:19 AM
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11644 posts since 4/23/2004

As long as they don't stick out of the sides and are of good quality...I'm good.

Feb 7, 2026 - 11:29:43 AM
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5786 posts since 11/20/2004

I used Gotoh on my conversions.

Feb 7, 2026 - 1:01:05 PM

144 posts since 11/28/2017

Rickards are the best I've ever used. 10:1 ratio, never any slippage, completely smooth movement. Expensive but worth it.

Feb 7, 2026 - 1:26:16 PM

RB-1

Netherlands

4271 posts since 6/17/2003

My Style 1 is an original 5 string, but I have my favourite tuners:

Feb 7, 2026 - 4:12:18 PM
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17303 posts since 6/2/2008

I always thought Waverly two-band eccentric (offset) tuners looked great for any pre-war. But they're really expensive now. Elderly show sthem in stock.

I'd say go with Gotoh and maybe the small oval button in ivoroid.

Feb 8, 2026 - 4:48:51 AM

24 posts since 3/11/2020

I like the gotoh tuners that Frank Neat installed on my Gibson 8719-84 . All original '27 tb3 no hole Arch top with his new 5 string neck. Tortoise buttons. They are great.

Feb 8, 2026 - 7:31:25 AM

Brett

USA

2746 posts since 11/29/2005

Anything but schallers. That’s really the only brand I’ve ever had issues with. Been very pleased with gotohs and five star

Feb 8, 2026 - 7:47:49 AM

9295 posts since 9/5/2006

i think robin smith used waverly 2 band tuners in the neck he built for me.. they work fine .. not as precise as rickards and the rickards are cheaper. stew mac has them for 232 a set and the waverlys are 297 when in stock.

Feb 13, 2026 - 12:01:50 PM

13780 posts since 10/27/2006

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Originally posted by Old Hickory

I always thought Waverly two-band eccentric (offset) tuners looked great for any pre-war. But they're really expensive now. Elderly show sthem in stock.

I'd say go with Gotoh and maybe the small oval button in ivoroid.


I didn't realize that StewMac had brought back the offset Waverly tuner—last time I bought some, they were identical to the 5-Star but with rings around the housings. I notice that this version takes the standard double-D buttons instead of having the squared shafts of old.

It would have to be a vintage banjo of some worth before I'd consider a set of $297 tuners, as nice as these may be.

Feb 13, 2026 - 12:09:57 PM

13780 posts since 10/27/2006

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Originally posted by rupickin5

Just asking to see if there’s any consensus on what peghead geared tuners folks go to when adding a 5-string neck to pre-war style 1’s & 11’s?
Thanks!


Gotoh is fine. I'm a big fan of fitting the original buttons to the tuners unless in bad shape. I file the tuner shafts to fit the square buttons since it's quick and easy with a file and a vise. Others use needle files on the buttons to accomodate the double-D shafts.

Although I have a set of Rickard tuners on one of my banjos—and they are good—I am fine with Gotoh or 5-Star planets.

Feb 13, 2026 - 1:26:17 PM

3159 posts since 4/16/2003

Gotohs or Rickards...

Feb 13, 2026 - 2:18:05 PM

GStump

USA

720 posts since 9/12/2006

Generally I use the prewar Grover pancake. To be 70 or 80 or 90 years old, and 95% of them still work fine, suggests to me they are very well made indeed. They usually need new friction washers, but otherwise are good. They are still affordable at around 200 bucks for a set of 4. AND they have the right look and vibe.

Feb 13, 2026 - 2:26:52 PM

13780 posts since 10/27/2006

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Originally posted by GStump

Generally I use the prewar Grover pancake. To be 70 or 80 or 90 years old, and 95% of them still work fine, suggests to me they are very well made indeed. They usually need new friction washers, but otherwise are good. They are still affordable at around 200 bucks for a set of 4. AND they have the right look and vibe.


and most are 2:1. No thanks.

Feb 14, 2026 - 5:30:16 AM

269 posts since 3/6/2008

Gotoh from Bob Smakula are the best deal that I have found. They work great & are less expensive than other quality tuners.

Feb 14, 2026 - 1:48:40 PM

GStump

USA

720 posts since 9/12/2006

Oh, I have no problem with the Gotoh tuners. I'm not really pleased with the buttons that usually come on them, but that's an easy fix.

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