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Jan 19, 2026 - 8:13:45 AM
63515 posts since 12/14/2005

Got a speeding ticket yesterday.
Got let off with a warning, three previous, so, a well-deserved reminder to obey the Rules.
Well-deserved, but rather expensive.

And, after the very polite police officer handed me my ticket, I asked
"Oh, wait! Can I just inform you that I'm a Sovereign Citizen, and drive away?"
His reply: "You can try."

I already HAD my ticket, but I've seen MANY cop camera videos, where the person who is behind the steering wheel of a vehicle which was moving on a public road was VERY uncooperative, and insists they weren't "driving", but they WERE "traveling".
And it quite often ends with the person in cuffs.
I've seen a couple videos where the cops (and the Sov Cits insist on a Supervisor showing up) will quote some Supreme Cort decision) where it was decided that the person behind the wheel MUST show identification, when requested by the cops.

Don't remember the name of the case.
I'd call it "The State Law v Some stuff on the Internet".
So I am asking, and you can privately message me:
Are any of the thousands of OutHangers here in the USA "Sovereign Citizens" or Flat Earthers?

Do you "travel" while behind the steering wheel, without license, insurance, and registration?

Jan 19, 2026 - 8:20 AM
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Owen

Canada

18755 posts since 6/5/2011

I'm from the "There Be Dragons" part of the map of the earth, so will leave it to those more qualified.  devil

Jan 19, 2026 - 8:59:08 AM

9153 posts since 9/5/2006

i don't go hard much anymore,, unless i drive her car,, its fun like a roller skate with a rocket engine,, that little cx5 will fly and holds the road like sports car.

Jan 19, 2026 - 9:27:12 AM

Mickhammer

France

240 posts since 6/17/2009

I like how you compare Sovereign Citizens to Flat Earthers. Because I do indeed throw them all in the same rabbit hole. Not sure who's more dangerous. 

Edited by - Mickhammer on 01/19/2026 09:28:49

Jan 19, 2026 - 10:13:44 AM
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slammer

USA

5427 posts since 12/30/2008

Sovereign Citizen…..NO.
Yooper……………………YES.

Being a Yooper , we are exempt from all “Law” . In fact, We are so far above the Law, we can even walk on water!!! Say ya to da U.P. Eh!!!
Slammer!!!

Jan 19, 2026 - 1:02:25 PM
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9153 posts since 9/5/2006

"Do you "travel" while behind the steering wheel, without license, insurance, and registration?"

no i don't, but there is a huge population in this state that does .

Jan 20, 2026 - 6:35:30 AM

15990 posts since 1/15/2005

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Originally posted by 1935tb-11

"Do you "travel" while behind the steering wheel, without license, insurance, and registration?"

no i don't, but there is a huge population in this state that does .


Yup .....I drive in Norcaroliner a lot ..... can verify your claim!

Jan 20, 2026 - 7:25:36 AM

Owen

Canada

18755 posts since 6/5/2011

Are North Carolinians (?) generally okay with the ^^ status quo?     Are the "powers that be" in North Carolina generally okay with the ^^ status quo?

Btw, is "huge," a number or a proportion?

Jan 20, 2026 - 7:29:53 AM
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Bart Veerman

Canada

6088 posts since 1/5/2005
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"So,,, not a U.S. citizen eh! Wait here please..." 

Jan 20, 2026 - 8:02:21 AM
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Corwyn

USA

1857 posts since 1/9/2006

Sovereign Citizens sound like people so white, that they can pretend to be brave by mouthing off to cops, without actually risking their lives like everyone else would be.

Thank you kindly.

Edited by - Corwyn on 01/20/2026 08:02:45

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