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Aug 13, 2025 - 9:27:11 AM
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93 posts since 9/1/2010

i have been looking at a the gibson tenor openback, from the 20,s i dont see much of these, and cant find any sound examples its 19 fret, not a trapdoor does anyone know somthing about these how they sound ?


Edited by - Texasbanjo on 08/13/2025 14:02:12

Aug 15, 2025 - 9:01:13 AM
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13657 posts since 10/27/2006

Please show us inside the pot.

Aug 15, 2025 - 9:18:18 AM
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2791 posts since 2/9/2007

What Mike says.

I've seen quite a few good Gibson tenor necks attached to unrelated, inferior pots, being sold as "Gibson banjos".

Aug 15, 2025 - 10:14:50 AM
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pinenut

USA

729 posts since 10/2/2007

Assuming that it has a rolled tone hoop and decent set-up, it will have a nice balanced banjo tone... Pleasant, effective and loud enough.
Assuming that it has no tone ring and decent set-up, it will still have a nice balanced banjo tone... Pleasant, less distinct note shapes and quieter.

The neck appears to mounted perpendicular to the rim, but the tailpiece, bridge and strings are skewed left. This could be as simple as pushing them straight or a mounting bracket location issue. It's not a huge playability issue but, I don't like this set-up problem.

What is the action at the twelfth fret? With what bridge height?

Edited by - pinenut on 08/15/2025 10:29:33

Aug 15, 2025 - 1:04:23 PM

93 posts since 9/1/2010

Thank you, here is the inside of the pot

 

Aug 15, 2025 - 4:08:20 PM

443 posts since 9/5/2013

My brother has a 60s open-back Gibson -- don't know the model or specs, but it's a great-sounding old-time banjo.

Aug 15, 2025 - 4:44:15 PM

3035 posts since 1/4/2009

I think this is just a regular Gibson banjo with the flange and resonator removed and veneer added , I don’t think they shipped any open backs in this era.

Edited by - kyleb on 08/15/2025 16:45:33

Aug 16, 2025 - 9:24:38 AM

1336 posts since 12/8/2006

22 brackets is a clue

Aug 19, 2025 - 10:31:04 AM

2791 posts since 2/9/2007

quote:
Originally posted by pinenut



The neck appears to mounted perpendicular to the rim, but the tailpiece, bridge and strings are skewed left. This could be as simple as pushing them straight or a mounting bracket location issue. It's not a huge playability issue but, I don't like this set-up problem.
 


Looks to me like if that tailpiece was centered between those brackets, everything would line up OK.  Shouldn't be any problem.

Aug 19, 2025 - 6:41:52 PM

pinenut

USA

729 posts since 10/2/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Dan Gellert
quote:
Originally posted by pinenut



The neck appears to mounted perpendicular to the rim, but the tailpiece, bridge and strings are skewed left. This could be as simple as pushing them straight or a mounting bracket location issue. It's not a huge playability issue but, I don't like this set-up problem.
 


Looks to me like if that tailpiece was centered between those brackets, everything would line up OK.  Shouldn't be any problem.


Right, the coordinator rod holes are drilled off center. 

I have fixed this on another banjo that had standard 24 hook spacing with a tailpiece T-bracket... 

This one is a 22 hook; it may need to be fabricated or not, dunno.  They come in different widths from Saga and Sullivan.

https://sullivanbanjo.com/collections/metal-parts/products/banjo-tailpiece-t-bracket-for-one-or-two-piece-flange-nickel-plated

https://www.sagamusic.com/shop/fretted-instrument-parts/golden-gate-parts/golden-gate-p-116-standard-tailpiece-holder-nickel/

Edited by - pinenut on 08/19/2025 18:46:45

Sep 6, 2025 - 2:21:31 PM

banjopaolo

Italy

2303 posts since 11/6/2008

Where these pictures were taken? Looks like a caveau of the federal reserve!

beautiful instrument in any case.... :-)

Edited by - banjopaolo on 09/06/2025 14:22:08

Sep 6, 2025 - 11:13:25 PM

13657 posts since 10/27/2006

Not a Gibson pot. As has been pointed out, 22 brackets instead of 24 is the clue.

There are low end Gibsons from the 1930s with 16 brackets (these don't have flanges) under the Kalamazoo, Oriole and other brands. If you know what to look for, bargains can be found. I once paid $50 including shipping for a Kalamazoo plectrum with resonator and case—Music Store Guy told the seller that only Kays had 16 brackets. I would have sent MSG a Starbucks card if I knew who he was.

Edited by - mikehalloran on 09/06/2025 23:14:26

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