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I am concerned about how the new tariffs will impact on banjos.
I own 7 banjos.
One of them, a bottom of the line Record King dirty 30s RB was wholly made in China. I love that banjo even though I have banjos that cost 10 times as much, especially because it resembles what banjos Southern Black and white folk without cash could purchase in the late 1940s, 50s, and 60s.
My 1923 Vega Tubaphone's pot was made in Boston, but its neck was made by a company called Eastman in China.
My pride and joy of banjos is the first decent banjo I purchased 24 years ago, a Gold Tone WL-250. At the time Gold Tone was having the parts manufactured in Korea, and assembled and fine tuned them up in in Titusville Florida. Nowadays I am told they are made in China and finished in Titusville.
What will happen if anyone knows about all of this if tariffs and other stuff drive up the prices or choke off the supply of banjos and parts for them from China and Korea.
I am not interested in a political discussion of the politics of all of this here. I think that is out of order even though going elsewhere and discussing that is probably more important than anything banjo, I am just concerned about the practical issues of banjo supply and prices. I am an old guy with enough banjos, and a realization that somebody younger should be playing them, and some day when we finally go to a retirement home, I am not going to have 7 banjos,.
However, I constantly get asked by people local and otherwise about buying banjos. Will the value of banjos produced in China or Korean go up in price as rarities or quality products like some of the Japanese Invasion Guitars have done?
Inquiring minds want to know?
Thanks for being banjo people and thanks to the people who created banjo hangout for giving us this place.
Edited by - writerrad on 04/08/2025 08:41:48
This could be an interesting situation. Even with a company like Deering, who builds their banjo in the USA, I can’t help but wonder how much of their wood and parts are sourced from outside the country. I could also see this effecting the used market in a big way, if things get too crazy.
Edited by - Dean T on 04/07/2025 18:10:55
In general expect the price of NEW Chinese banjos to go up "somewhat". It remains to be seen if the manufacturer will eat any of the tariff, if the wholesaler will eat any of it, if the importer will eat any it and if the retailer will eat any of it. If all of these folks decline to eat any portion of the tariff, then the price to the consumer will go up "some" to "a lot".
Now if consumers politely decline to pay more for Chinese banjos (mean they just stop buying them), then all those folks in the supply chain have to decide if they want to stay in the American market at a lower profit, or just say good-bye to the American buyers. If this is multiplied across ALL the goods and services the Chinese provide, one would imagine they'd have to rethink their stance on the tariffs THEY had in place prior to this year. That's the political game, in theory. If they reduce their tariffs, theoretically we reduce ours and thinks re-balance, someday.
In the short term, expect price/availability of Chinese banjos to get "stickier" for a buyer to navigate.
And all other foreign goods and services too. I'm more interested in how this will affect Prucha (Czech) banjo parts and Asian banjo parts.
If Chinese banjo prices go up, all over banjos will provide go up some also -- American-made, used imported, vintage, etc.
I would never have thought of the impact of tariffs on banjos. I mean, I get it. But I would not have imagined it. I suppose there is a lot of metal. Wood is probably not imported much. Metal ingots and bar stock and certainly the threaded parts if international will be impacted. The custom makers will probably be affected in raw material costs.
On the used market: I think we live in the bubble of banjo collectors and that’s probably a finite and quite static (and sort of loony) population. I have my doubts that anything will happen to radically shift the prices of used banjos in the USA. The old ones will continue he to get older and more valuable for the desirable ones while the high quality luthiers will continue to have value just because they are quality.
What will probably be affected most are the bottle cap and lower market mass produced tone ring instruments. That will probably affect people just starting out playing.
I’m betting with the high end custom ones you’re paying a lot more for the craftsmanship time than just the materials that went into the thjng.
The sorry truth is your going to have pay taxes on imported goods. Whether it is Banjo's, Scotch, Gas or power from Canada. This tariff tax is not confined to China, Canada, Mexico but world wide and by the looks of things ordinary Americans will suffer badly as I see it. I could be wrong only time will tell.
Edited by - FenderFred on 04/07/2025 23:54:49
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Originally posted by OK-4My understanding is that MANY domestic builders source their laminated wood rims from China. (A maker of block-rim banjos told me that ALL of the builders of laminated-rim banjos do this, but maybe he exaggerated a little.)
I think he exaggerated a lot. Even though I'm unfamilar with USA builders there isn't a Chinese source of three ply rims (unless everyone has a deal to import Goldtone parts or Recording King or Saga rims) and the cheap multiply rims are not going to be used by anyone other than someone putting together a cheap parts banjo at home.
Assuming the president does as he says he will: The cost of Chinese banjos and parts will go through the roof; European banjos (e.g. Prucha) and parts will significantly increase in price. Any banjos using overseas parts will increase in price—how much depends on the parts they use. Canadian instruments—Rickard and Romero notably, will increase in price—how much is uncertain. Ditto Rickard parts. Everything’s in flux, but it is highly unlikely costs for imported banjos and parts will not go up, in many cases, significantly. Uncertainty abounds.
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Originally posted by gbisignaniI don't understand (as one person posted) how this will impact the used market. Maybe foreign parts for repairs but how much do you spend on parts for a used banjo ? and will that fee you pay be added to the value when selling ?
Theoretically--if foreign content in banjos drives up prices, used banjos will be more desirable because of lower cost. As the demand for used banjos increases, so will their price, but those prices will remain below banjos whose cost is driven up by foreign content. At least that's the theory.
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Originally posted by Dean TThis could be an interesting situation. Even with a company like Deering, who builds their banjo in the USA, I can’t help but wonder how much of their wood and parts are sourced from outside the country. I could also see this effecting the used market in a big way, if things get too crazy.
Does Deering outsource their maple? Maple is pretty common in the US
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Originally posted by RDPI’m not the least bit concerned. Let the pot stew for a couple months then make an educated decision on the matter. If you don’t have a banjo and can’t afford an American made one go ahead now and get one if you just got to have one.
Agreed. There are plenty of banjos sitting in closets that may surface. If he's got a good one, why is he worrying? Personally, I think one should choose to buy American first. If one must buy Chinese, secondhand partially sidesteps the ethical dilemma of supporting slave labor. For what it's worth, I own two Deerings and really like the Americana with the 12" pot/scoop neck. The Goodtime (11" pot) is an excellent starter at a reasonable price.
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Originally posted by Spudwheatquote:
Originally posted by Dean TThis could be an interesting situation. Even with a company like Deering, who builds their banjo in the USA, I can’t help but wonder how much of their wood and parts are sourced from outside the country. I could also see this effecting the used market in a big way, if things get too crazy.
Does Deering outsource their maple? Maple is pretty common in the US
Here's an article that tells about Deering's materials, manufacturing & sourcing. https://countryinstruments.com/where-are-deering-banjos-made/
Everything in the world will go up in price no matter what country they're from.
All markets on the planet are suffering needlessly and we are all going to pay.
Some can afford to pay (as it was in the Great Depression) while most will suffer and have to figure out how to survive and go without anything that isn't a necessity.
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Originally posted by banjobob36OMG!!! ...the sky is falling!!!! Inflation!! Recession!!! Banjos don't care about tariffs so keep plucking , picking and jamming away.
Banjos don't have a brain.
Yes, banjos will increase in price. Tariff PLUS duties will apply to imported ones.
Let's not forget reality: banjos aren't excactly popular. Used ones take many months of being for sale until they finally get sold. Some don't even sell at all. Also, the age group of many BHO members is over 60. When they pass on, there will be a huge number of banjo becoming available on a market that has very, very, very few buyers. Why go through all the time & trouble to learn how to play an instrument when all you need is a rhythm box and AI.
My guess is that used banjos, regardless of whatever kind, will become substantially cheaper in the near future as the heirs of their owners will try to get rid of them...
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Originally posted by martyjoe
The market for banjo’s is likely to shrink because we are all headed for a recession!
Conversly, If folks are spending more time at home instead of going out to spend money, we could have a repeat of what happened 5 or so years ago during the pandemic when folks who were not able to get out of the house ordered that banjo or guitar (or other) that they always wanted, and then took the time to learn to play it.
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