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Feb 17, 2025 - 4:01:25 PM
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Dean T

USA

464 posts since 4/18/2024

I had to seriously contemplate talking about this here, as I know how things can go. But this was so cheap, so simple, a bit gawdy, but so insanely successful, I just had to at least mention it.

I rescued this Goodtime from a Guitar Center classifieds across the country. When it arrived, I was happy to see a very straight neck. But… was puzzled to see very high, unplayable action. So, I did all the basic Goodtime action fixes I know, raising the neck on the rim as far as I was comfortable, sanding as much material off the bottom of the bridge as I was comfortable with, and cranking the single rim rod as much as was safe. This got the action playable, in fact I even payed a gig with it, but I still wasn’t happy. The next step was shims, and I HATE doing that. It was bugging me like crazy, why the action was so crappy, with such a straight neck. After playing it and thinking about it for several months, I finally came to the conclusion that the only physical way for this, was the rim being out of round. So yesterday I took it all apart and measured the rim. YES!!! Even though the bottom of the rim was still round, the top of the rim was 3/32” out of round. Basically, nearly 30 years of string tension, was caving in the top of the rim.

Knowing this would only get worse with age, and a shim was a bandaid, I considered adding the 2nd traditional rim rod. But after some googling, I couldn’t find the 2nd rod as a single, didn’t really want to pay for a pair, wait on them, and had my doubts how well it would work. Trying to correct that much out-of-round with traditional rim rods would be a tremendous load to the neck studs.

So… without a luthiers bone in my body, I went to ACE, and spent $3.86 on a piece of threaded rod, two washers and two nuts. I went home, drilled holes in my rim, installed the parts, and Jack screwed my rim out to perfectly round. I put my Goodtime back together, and the action is fantastic and fully adjustable. It sounds great, and I guarantee the rim will never ever EVER warp again. This turned a marginally playable, unstable, un adjustable banjo… into a perfectly playable totally adjustable banjo. This thing will probably survive WW III.


Feb 17, 2025 - 4:08:37 PM
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RioStat

USA

6453 posts since 10/12/2009

Necessity is the mother of invention, or in this case, improvisation.

Personally, I don't think that you did anything "wrong".

You identified a problem and fixed it. 

Nice work !

Feb 17, 2025 - 4:28:38 PM
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Someone much wiser than I once said:

"Our ability to do the best we can, with whatever resources we can find, is what makes humans unique"

Or something like that.

Feb 17, 2025 - 4:40:38 PM
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5012 posts since 10/13/2005

Whatever works! However I am amazed that a pot that looks 5/8" thick would warp in the first place? banjered

Feb 17, 2025 - 10:59:58 PM

Dean T

USA

464 posts since 4/18/2024

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Originally posted by banjered

Whatever works! However I am amazed that a pot that looks 5/8" thick would warp in the first place? banjered


Me too. Which is why it took me so long to figure it out. I guess string tension and a multi ply rim is no match for Father Time and physics. This is my 4th Goodtime, and first time I ever encountered trouble getting one set up well. Judging by the shoe hardware, it's one of the earliest ones. 

Feb 18, 2025 - 12:03:17 PM
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pinenut

USA

199 posts since 10/2/2007

Those old multiply pots on the Gumby are fine rims. However, they are flexible and do function significantly better with a metal tone ring and an upper coordinator rod. I like your solution.

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