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Nov 3, 2024 - 8:44:59 AM
80389 posts since 5/9/2007

That internal "filler" that is a partial or condensation of the melody.

Nov 3, 2024 - 8:58:41 PM

chuckv97

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73075 posts since 10/5/2013

E, E7, A, Am, B7 , a blooz toinawound

Nov 4, 2024 - 6:43:15 AM
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4950 posts since 3/28/2008

In blues lingo, a "turnaround" is (as in Chuck's example) a way of treating the last two (usually) measures so as to lead into the next verse. In country/bluegrass lingo, it's the last line (usually), often used as an instrumental introduction or when a bread shorter than a full verse is called for.

A "bridge" is a section of a song or tune that happens somewhere in the middle of the form. I've heard the term used to denote the B part in an AABA structure. It's also used in a different sense to denote a part of a song that--unlike the verses and choruses--only occurs once.

Nov 4, 2024 - 9:39:46 AM
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chuckv97

Canada

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Quote: “ It's also used in a different sense to denote a part of a song that--unlike the verses and choruses--only occurs once.”
Like in Smoky Mountain Memories ,, sometimes called an interlude (if I remember right)

Nov 4, 2024 - 11:46:09 AM

banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

14027 posts since 2/22/2007

Well for one thing, James Brown never took it to the turnaround!

Edited by - banjo bill-e on 11/04/2024 11:46:43

Nov 4, 2024 - 12:28:26 PM
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In our BG jam circles, a turnaround is just a few chord intro to a tune, usually 1 5 1. A bridge is a section of the song or tune that only happens once, usually to break up the verse/chorus sequence and bring some tension or attention to that section.

Nov 4, 2024 - 1:09:37 PM
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The terms are rooted in popular music from the early 20th century, which are in turn derived in a roundabout way from classical music forms from the 19th century.

A popular song as found in the early 20th century consisted of a verse and chorus. The chorus, sometimes labeled refrain, usually consisted of a theme, a middle section, and a repeated theme or a da capo (to the top). The middle section is often labeled the "bridge" and sometimes called the middle eight, because the form typically allowed for eight measures for the middle section.

A turnaround is a typically a tonic-dominant cadence that serves as an introduction or a coda.

Nov 5, 2024 - 6:20:05 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Eulalie

The terms are rooted in popular music from the early 20th century, which are in turn derived in a roundabout way from classical music forms from the 19th century.

A popular song as found in the early 20th century consisted of a verse and chorus. The chorus, sometimes labeled refrain, usually consisted of a theme, a middle section, and a repeated theme or a da capo (to the top). The middle section is often labeled the "bridge" and sometimes called the middle eight, because the form typically allowed for eight measures for the middle section.

A turnaround is a typically a tonic-dominant cadence that serves as an introduction or a coda.


Ah, yes, those old pop songs that nobody remembers the original verse to!

Nov 5, 2024 - 8:08:07 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Ira Gitlin
quote:
Originally posted by Eulalie

The terms are rooted in popular music from the early 20th century, which are in turn derived in a roundabout way from classical music forms from the 19th century.

A popular song as found in the early 20th century consisted of a verse and chorus. The chorus, sometimes labeled refrain, usually consisted of a theme, a middle section, and a repeated theme or a da capo (to the top). The middle section is often labeled the "bridge" and sometimes called the middle eight, because the form typically allowed for eight measures for the middle section.

A turnaround is a typically a tonic-dominant cadence that serves as an introduction or a coda.


Ah, yes, those old pop songs that nobody remembers the original verse to!

 


I'm afraid my description might be a bit confusing to players rooted in the realm of old-time and bluegrass.  Of course most folk, country and bluegrass songs simply have a verse and chorus, but a turnaround is the same thing previously described—a tonic-dominant snippet used as an intro or coda.  A bridge in more contemporary bluegrass songs usually just consists of a section of different material that wanders away from the main thematic material, usually with a key change, and then returns to the original music.

In the old pop song format, sometimes the verse has more musical interest than the chorus, which is the only thing people end up humming and whistling.  Hoagy Carmichael's verses were the best, for instance Rocking Chair.

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