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Oct 26, 2024 - 9:25:20 AM
1488 posts since 1/26/2011

I bought an iPad Pro but haven’t opened it yet. I was planning to use it for practice and jamming. But as I’ve thought about it I’m wondering if keeping it is worth the cost. I typically practice in front of my desktop computer, but I thought maybe I could use the iPad at jams for lyrics. But other than that I haven’t thought of anything.

Are any of you using an iPad for live music or practicing? If so, how?

Thanks in advance for the input.

John

Oct 26, 2024 - 10:00:25 AM
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lapsteel

Canada

1026 posts since 8/13/2015

All my videos here are made on my iPad.

Oct 26, 2024 - 10:28:38 AM

Dean T

USA

273 posts since 4/18/2024

We photograph lyric sheets and send between bandmates. We also store and send music files between bandmates. I play YouTube backing track videos for practice. The video recorder is simple and hassle free and works great. My iPad has completely replaced my desktop… which I haven’t even turned on in over 2 years. I rarely get my paper music books out anymore, as I have either the files or the photos of the pages on my iPad.

Oct 26, 2024 - 11:50:02 AM
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ssduke

USA

23 posts since 2/2/2008

I put forScore, a $20 app, on my iPad and scanned in all the tunes I had in binders and some from books. Now it’s all at my fingertips without the bulk.

Oct 26, 2024 - 2:18:17 PM
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335 posts since 8/22/2013

I agree with the previous posts. forScore is a great app for storing and organizing all of your music - lyric sheets, scores, tabs, and creating set lists, etc... So much easier than carrying around binders. And while it works on all Mac devices, it's ideal on a large iPad. Tabs & Chords app is is another good band gigging app. Free version is all you need.
That's a yes on the iPad for jamming and gigging,

Edited by - lyndabee on 10/26/2024 14:18:59

Oct 26, 2024 - 4:47:36 PM

1488 posts since 1/26/2011

quote:
Originally posted by lapsteel

All my videos here are made on my iPad.


They sound really good.  Are you using the iPad mic or something else?

Oct 26, 2024 - 5:18:19 PM
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lapsteel

Canada

1026 posts since 8/13/2015

The iPad microphone isn’t very good. I bought a Shure MV5 Digital Condenser Microphone which improves the “quality” a lot. It plugs right in and is really easy to use.

Oct 27, 2024 - 11:28:36 AM
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cnoe

Switzerland

101 posts since 1/6/2011

I use Strum Machine and the Amazing Slowdowner on my iPad.
And flat.io to write scores and tabs.

Nov 11, 2024 - 2:01:50 PM

15854 posts since 6/2/2008
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndabee

I agree with the previous posts. forScore is a great app for storing and organizing all of your music - lyric sheets, scores, tabs, and creating set lists, etc... So much easier than carrying around binders. And while it works on all Mac devices, it's ideal on a large iPad. Tabs & Chords app is is another good band gigging app. Free version is all you need.
That's a yes on the iPad for jamming and gigging,


Thanks for that complete description.

Does forScore by any change transpose chord charts? Two of my friends use SongSheet and OnSong (I think those are the names) and both of those recognize the difference between the chords and lyrics in a file and can transpose instantly if you choose another key. These apps seem to have gone to a subscription model, which is not something I'm willing to pay.

Nov 11, 2024 - 6:41:18 PM
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ssduke

USA

23 posts since 2/2/2008

ForScore won’t transpose keys for you. Think of it as a well organized and easily searchable database.

Nov 12, 2024 - 10:32:04 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by lapsteel

All my videos here are made on my iPad.


Hope you can answer some questions.

Do you shoot video in a selfie mode so you can see yourself on the screen when you're shooting? 

Do you have any kind of remote control? Or do you start the iPad recording then return to your seat?

Are you using the iPad's built-in mic and audio capture? Or are you recording to an external device and replacing the audio track?

I ask because I'm not happy with my video setup. I use my Canon DSLR with flip-out monitor so I can see myself, remote control, and AT2020 mic into external digital audio recorder. 

The quality is fine. But it takes a lot of setup -- tripods, lights. And I shoot so rarely, I have to re-read the manual each time to learn how to do it.  I'd really like something close to point-and-shoot.  Swapping out the the camera audio for my recorder audio in iMovie (Mac) is no problem.

Ads for this Zoom Q2N musicians' video camera used to fill my Facebook feed. The thing ws discontinued almost as soon as it appeared. Now they're on close-out for a lot less than the original price.  I might spring for one, even though the reviews are mixed.

I've been thinking of posting a "How do you shoot video" discussion to hear from more people.

Thanks for whatever you can share.

Edited to correct: While the Zoom Q2N is discontinued, it's been replaced by the Q2N-4K, which is the one that I was seeing ads for.

Edited by - Old Hickory on 11/12/2024 10:46:39

Nov 12, 2024 - 10:41:30 AM

1488 posts since 1/26/2011

I’m going to be trying a Shure MV88+ for audio. It will work with an iPhone or iPad. It gets good reviews. Has an app for adjustments. I have a Zoom Q8n and the audio is great but video isn’t. It doesn’t adjust for different lighting levels ver well.

Nov 12, 2024 - 6:56:06 PM
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3916 posts since 10/17/2009

quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory
quote:
Originally posted by lapsteel

All my videos here are made on my iPad.


Hope you can answer some questions.

Do you shoot video in a selfie mode so you can see yourself on the screen when you're shooting? 

Do you have any kind of remote control? Or do you start the iPad recording then return to your seat?

Are you using the iPad's built-in mic and audio capture? Or are you recording to an external device and replacing the audio track?

I ask because I'm not happy with my video setup. I use my Canon DSLR with flip-out monitor so I can see myself, remote control, and AT2020 mic into external digital audio recorder. 

The quality is fine. But it takes a lot of setup -- tripods, lights. And I shoot so rarely, I have to re-read the manual each time to learn how to do it.  I'd really like something close to point-and-shoot.  Swapping out the the camera audio for my recorder audio in iMovie (Mac) is no problem.

Ads for this Zoom Q2N musicians' video camera used to fill my Facebook feed. The thing ws discontinued almost as soon as it appeared. Now they're on close-out for a lot less than the original price.  I might spring for one, even though the reviews are mixed.

I've been thinking of posting a "How do you shoot video" discussion to hear from more people.

Thanks for whatever you can share.

Edited to correct: While the Zoom Q2N is discontinued, it's been replaced by the Q2N-4K, which is the one that I was seeing ads for.


The mention of flip-out monitor and related to the OP about uses for an ipad... it might be possible to use ipad/iphone similarly as just a close video monitor a distant camera; IIRC if using another both are Apple devices, it can do it fairly easy; not sure how, nor about other phones or DSLR?

Not to side track discussion but in regards to doing video...

I use my Canon DSLR with flip-out monitor so I can see myself, remote control, and AT2020 mic into external digital audio recorder. 

.....I'd really like something close to point-and-shoot.  

One option, there are lots of apps to use a phone camera as a like a web cam... where the video is fed into the computer/laptop (via USB or wifi), thus can use regular computer/laptop monitor; can bypass phone sound to use external USB mic or audio interface; and both record straight into the video program on computer (rather than phone). I've mostly used this for live stream set up, using OBS; but can similar feed into video recording capture or editing software.

It's great re-use for older phones with no SIM. Even allowing for multiple angles. Even in conjunction with better main DSLR, adding other angles, side shots, close ups (like fingering).

 

Mention of remote control... would be another use for an ipad; is remote control app functions. Of course these can work on phones as well, just smaller screen. As well another possible re-purposing of older phones, can also still be used as remote that still works. Very common these days to many modern mixers have wifi and apps to control audio levels and monitoring/mix; great when playing live, can just reach down and turn up the banjo wink, most offer individualized band member mix (esp IEM). There are also similar apps for audio interfaces (like Focusrite control), to some DAW functionality (record/stop/rewind/punch); as well as video monitoring or recording software; and some camera features like zoom/lighting. Of course many of these can just get a cheap wireless keyboard, use keyboard commands for a lot of this rather than touch screen... (if you can remember the command).

Another related use of ipad or repurposed old phone, can remote control bluetooth LED light bulbs/spots, which makes easier to adjust the lighting brightness/color. Can be useful for shooting video, but could be used in live performance context, setting different lighting scenes.
 

Nov 13, 2024 - 4:15:25 AM
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banjopaolo

Italy

2079 posts since 11/6/2008

I use a lot my IPad for music, of course I save all my sheet music in books and I have totally given up with printed music, I made also some videos posted here on the hangout with the iPad camera but usually I record separately the audio with a zoom h6 and then I edit the video and audio on my computer with Final Cut Pro…

Nov 13, 2024 - 11:42:24 AM

15854 posts since 6/2/2008
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 banjoak

Thanks for the time and thought put into your complete and informative response. Lots to think about.

Nov 23, 2024 - 11:38:39 AM

13256 posts since 10/27/2006

quote:
Originally posted by jdeluke137

I’m going to be trying a Shure MV88+ for audio. It will work with an iPhone or iPad. It gets good reviews. Has an app for adjustments. I have a Zoom Q8n and the audio is great but video isn’t. It doesn’t adjust for different lighting levels ver well.


The MV88 will not work if the iPad has a USB-C port. According to Shure, their Lightening to USB cable is for Android phones only and won't work with USB-C iPhones or iPads.

Dec 5, 2024 - 12:23:14 PM

chuckv97

Canada

73125 posts since 10/5/2013

I record all my videos on an iPad, no external mic. I have no issues with sound quality on most videos except for a slight hiss once in a while which can be eliminated using the Dolby On app.

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