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Sep 17, 2024 - 8:32:10 PM
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547 posts since 1/26/2020

This picture was taken circa 1910. It is my great grandfather, Cape Charles Casper of Gates County, NC playing his banjo at the age of 18 or 19 years. I’ve been trying to identify what make and model he’s playing but I haven’t found one like it, yet.
Any help would be appreciated.
It looks like a Chicago make from around the turn of the century. I'm leaning towards JB Schall, but I just can’t tell with 100% confidence.

Blaine

PS. For anyone who cares to know, he served in the 6th infantry regiment during The Great War. He saw combat in pretty much all the major offensives involving the United States from February 1918 when he disembarked in France all the way through the armistice and the occupation in 1919.




Edited by - tbchappe on 09/18/2024 02:56:28

Sep 17, 2024 - 10:40:24 PM

146 posts since 6/3/2012

I'd say it's probably an SS Stewart.

Sep 18, 2024 - 2:51:39 AM

547 posts since 1/26/2020

quote:
Originally posted by HerbMeister

I'd say it's probably an SS Stewart.


It's definitely not an SS Stewart.

Sep 18, 2024 - 4:18:37 AM
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2063 posts since 1/13/2012

I would say Rettberg & Lange, or maybe Lyon & Healy.

Sep 18, 2024 - 4:49:23 AM

547 posts since 1/26/2020

quote:
Originally posted by Andy FitzGibbon

I would say Rettberg & Lange, or maybe Lyon & Healy.


In looking at this Sears Roebuck catalog page from 1910, it looks a lot like "The Ruby".

 Which would mean that that banjo was likely only a few years old in that picture.

Blaine


 

Sep 18, 2024 - 5:36:14 AM
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5997 posts since 5/29/2011

quote:
Originally posted by Andy FitzGibbon

I would say Rettberg & Lange, or maybe Lyon & Healy.


My first instinct was Lyon & Healy. 

Sep 18, 2024 - 5:45:37 AM
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2865 posts since 1/4/2009

the headstock shape and bottom inlays are similar to a thompson and odell i had. Im trying and failing to find pictures, but when i do ill send them.

Sep 18, 2024 - 6:06:29 AM

547 posts since 1/26/2020

quote:
Originally posted by kyleb

the headstock shape and bottom inlays are similar to a thompson and odell i had. Im trying and failing to find pictures, but when i do ill send them.


I'm interested to see that!

Sep 18, 2024 - 7:02:28 AM

8490 posts since 9/21/2007

quote:
Originally posted by tbchappe
quote:
Originally posted by Andy FitzGibbon

I would say Rettberg & Lange, or maybe Lyon & Healy.


In looking at this Sears Roebuck catalog page from 1910, it looks a lot like "The Ruby".

 Which would mean that that banjo was likely only a few years old in that picture.

Blaine


Inlay is very different. 

Sep 18, 2024 - 7:11:44 AM

547 posts since 1/26/2020

quote:
Originally posted by Joel Hooks
quote:
Originally posted by tbchappe
quote:
Originally posted by Andy FitzGibbon

I would say Rettberg & Lange, or maybe Lyon & Healy.


In looking at this Sears Roebuck catalog page from 1910, it looks a lot like "The Ruby".

 Which would mean that that banjo was likely only a few years old in that picture.

Blaine


Inlay is very different. 


It's really the closest I've found. Mostly looking at that upside down crown at the nut and the peghead shape.

 I'm grasping at straws here.

 Blaine

Sep 18, 2024 - 7:39:55 AM

8490 posts since 9/21/2007

quote:
Originally posted by tbchappe
quote:
Originally posted by Joel Hooks
quote:
Originally posted by tbchappe
quote:
Originally posted by Andy FitzGibbon

I would say Rettberg & Lange, or maybe Lyon & Healy.


In looking at this Sears Roebuck catalog page from 1910, it looks a lot like "The Ruby".

 Which would mean that that banjo was likely only a few years old in that picture.

Blaine


Inlay is very different. 


It's really the closest I've found. Mostly looking at that upside down crown at the nut and the peghead shape.

 I'm grasping at straws here.

 Blaine


Unless I can positively ID something I tend not to guess or grasp at straws.

In this case, I am getting Gretsch vibes, but I cannot with certainty say "it is a Gretsch". 

Sep 18, 2024 - 7:46:21 AM

547 posts since 1/26/2020

quote:
Originally posted by Joel Hooks
quote:
Originally posted by tbchappe
quote:
Originally posted by Joel Hooks
quote:
Originally posted by tbchappe
quote:
Originally posted by Andy FitzGibbon

I would say Rettberg & Lange, or maybe Lyon & Healy.


In looking at this Sears Roebuck catalog page from 1910, it looks a lot like "The Ruby".

 Which would mean that that banjo was likely only a few years old in that picture.

Blaine


Inlay is very different. 


It's really the closest I've found. Mostly looking at that upside down crown at the nut and the peghead shape.

 I'm grasping at straws here.

 Blaine


Unless I can positively ID something I tend not to guess or grasp at straws.

In this case, I am getting Gretsch vibes, but I cannot with certainty say "it is a Gretsch". 

 


I do when emotions are involved

 Blaine

Sep 18, 2024 - 8:27:26 AM

2063 posts since 1/13/2012

quote:
Originally posted by Joel Hooks

Unless I can positively ID something I tend not to guess or grasp at straws.

In this case, I am getting Gretsch vibes, but I cannot with certainty say "it is a Gretsch". 

 


Gretsch did do the Stewart-esque peghead now and again, so that's another decent possibility.

Sep 18, 2024 - 1:25:58 PM

28195 posts since 6/25/2005

My gut reaction was R&L.

Sep 19, 2024 - 7:41:30 AM

688 posts since 6/9/2009

Something about it makes me think Haynes "Bay State".

Sep 20, 2024 - 8:32:36 AM

2865 posts since 1/4/2009

update, i was wrong above, its not like my old thompson and odell , besdies one of the inlay shapes.

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