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Aug 4, 2024 - 5:34:30 AM
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rinemb

USA

16480 posts since 5/24/2005

Today Phase 2 water restrictions begin. We are limited to watering lawns, watering non-edible plants, and filling pools to one designated day of the week. Many exemptions apply. We are in historic drought and our primary underground source and primary reservoir have reached historic lows.
I will continue watering my produce and herb gardens. We don’t have showers and only take baths. I will use about 6 one gallon water jugs to fill each morning with my bath grey water to save a few plants. Not wash cars-never do that anyway at home. Not fill bathtub quite as much, select a lower washer fill level, flush less-when it’s yellow let it mellow. And likely cheat a wee bit since I water before daylight.
City has set up up an app to report cheaters. Fines apply after one warning. Brad

Edited by - rinemb on 08/04/2024 05:34:58

Aug 4, 2024 - 8:03:34 AM

3866 posts since 4/5/2006

Bummer. Although, Kansas never had much water to begin with.

Aug 4, 2024 - 8:23:10 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

30639 posts since 8/3/2003

Although we're not yet on water restrictions, our city seems to have a problem with main water line breaks. Seems like a couple of times a month we're hearing about a break somewhere and hundred, maybe thousand either without water or low water pressure. Boil water notices for those folks which really means: go buy bottled water to drink, cook with, brush your teeth, etc.

As far as drought conditions, we've been in them ever since I can remember. I only water twice a week and my yard isn't as pretty and green as it was, but I do believe in preserving our water as much as we can.  You can also put a brick or large stone in your toilet(s) so they use less water. 

If you want a shower, you can purchase a portable shower hose and attach it to your faucet. We did that for years when all we had were two tubs and no shower.

Edited by - Texasbanjo on 08/04/2024 08:23:43

Aug 4, 2024 - 9:07:38 AM

1769 posts since 11/10/2022

Out here in AZ they have been telling us we are in a drought since the 90s. Yet they have never placed restrictions and our population has more than doubled. Phoenix solved their water crisis by growing to the 3rd largest city in area and 5th in population. They also never talk about water anymore in the local news.

Perhaps other municipalities can just say nothing.

Aug 4, 2024 - 9:15:31 AM
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2629 posts since 1/16/2010

Oh boy…this is where being a prior submariner can benefit. A submarine shower…get in the shower…turn it on and wet your body about 10-20 seconds and then cut the water off. Lather your body, face, and hair with soap. Then turn the water back on and rinse it all off, maybe a minute…so in total 90 seconds of water usage during the shower.

That’s how we did it once a week back in the day on subs…due to the limited amount of water we could make. The electronics got all of the freshwater…to keep them cool.

Good luck!

Aug 4, 2024 - 10:32:46 AM
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rinemb

USA

16480 posts since 5/24/2005

quote:
Originally posted by NotABanjoYoda

Out here in AZ they have been telling us we are in a drought since the 90s. Yet they have never placed restrictions and our population has more than doubled. Phoenix solved their water crisis by growing to the 3rd largest city in area and 5th in population. They also never talk about water anymore in the local news.

Perhaps other municipalities can just say nothing.


We were staying at brother's second home in Az a few weeks ago and it was hot-big surprise, eh.  We visited its small "River of Time" Museum covering the geological history and cultural importance of the "Lower Verde River Valley" .   Perhaps not a long travel destination, but I found it interesting. 
I look at those aquaducts serving the Phoenix Metro area and wonder how long that area can keep growing and survive and have enough water available?   Brad

Aug 4, 2024 - 11:20:52 AM

1769 posts since 11/10/2022

quote:
Originally posted by rinemb
quote:
Originally posted by NotABanjoYoda

Out here in AZ they have been telling us we are in a drought since the 90s. Yet they have never placed restrictions and our population has more than doubled. Phoenix solved their water crisis by growing to the 3rd largest city in area and 5th in population. They also never talk about water anymore in the local news.

Perhaps other municipalities can just say nothing.


We were staying at brother's second home in Az a few weeks ago and it was hot-big surprise, eh.  We visited its small "River of Time" Museum covering the geological history and cultural importance of the "Lower Verde River Valley" .   Perhaps not a long travel destination, but I found it interesting. 
I look at those aquaducts serving the Phoenix Metro area and wonder how long that area can keep growing and survive and have enough water available?   Brad


As long as half the population keeps their second homes as second homes  our housing prices will remain high and our water sustainable.   My part time neighbors all have out of state plates, rip up the low water desert landscape, and try to make grass and trees like wherever they came from.  Dont get me started on how out of state retires destroyed access to healthcare...November through April.  Hopefully that second home disease doesnt infect younger generations.

Aug 4, 2024 - 11:41:46 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

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30639 posts since 8/3/2003

quote:
Originally posted by Texican65

Oh boy…this is where being a prior submariner can benefit. A submarine shower…get in the shower…turn it on and wet your body about 10-20 seconds and then cut the water off. Lather your body, face, and hair with soap. Then turn the water back on and rinse it all off, maybe a minute…so in total 90 seconds of water usage during the shower.

That’s how we did it once a week back in the day on subs…due to the limited amount of water we could make. The electronics got all of the freshwater…to keep them cool.

Good luck!


That's about the way we used to shower in our RVs.  With a 6 gallon water heater, you'd better get busy with your shower or you'd be rinsing in cold water.

Aug 4, 2024 - 11:44:35 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

30639 posts since 8/3/2003

quote:
Originally posted by NotABanjoYoda
quote:
Originally posted by rinemb
quote:
Originally posted by NotABanjoYoda

Out here in AZ they have been telling us we are in a drought since the 90s. Yet they have never placed restrictions and our population has more than doubled. Phoenix solved their water crisis by growing to the 3rd largest city in area and 5th in population. They also never talk about water anymore in the local news.

Perhaps other municipalities can just say nothing.


We were staying at brother's second home in Az a few weeks ago and it was hot-big surprise, eh.  We visited its small "River of Time" Museum covering the geological history and cultural importance of the "Lower Verde River Valley" .   Perhaps not a long travel destination, but I found it interesting. 
I look at those aquaducts serving the Phoenix Metro area and wonder how long that area can keep growing and survive and have enough water available?   Brad


As long as half the population keeps their second homes as second homes  our housing prices will remain high and our water sustainable.   My part time neighbors all have out of state plates, rip up the low water desert landscape, and try to make grass and trees like wherever they came from.  Dont get me started on how out of state retires destroyed access to healthcare...November through April.  Hopefully that second home disease doesnt infect younger generations.

 

 

 


We had a vacation/2nd home in Big Bend for years.  That is definitely desert and mountains and water is precious.  We never planted anything, just enjoyed the wild plants, cactus and whatever could exist in that hot, dry place.   We definitely understood the need for water conservation.

Aug 4, 2024 - 12:51:57 PM

Dean T

USA

194 posts since 4/18/2024

They are also closing all the public pools at the end of the week, instead of waiting until the end of summer break.

Aug 4, 2024 - 12:55:47 PM

chuckv97

Canada

72602 posts since 10/5/2013

How about the watering of golf courses. ,,, oh no… don’t stop that! (sarcasm font)

Aug 4, 2024 - 2:02:26 PM

klgera

USA

578 posts since 12/3/2004

This one time I am glad to live in Minnesota, on edge of Lake Superior, no water shortage in my city!

Aug 4, 2024 - 2:30:07 PM

chuckv97

Canada

72602 posts since 10/5/2013

Only one time, Ken? I thought ice fishing in -40 weather was a draw for folks re-locating to Minnesota

Edited by - chuckv97 on 08/04/2024 14:30:30

Aug 4, 2024 - 2:51:57 PM
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donc

Canada

7499 posts since 2/9/2010

So we live in a continual rain belt. We have 2 giant reservoirs not counting the 1 in the city. This week we had 3 days with lots of rain. SO... Why do do we have water restrictions ? An automatic lawn sprinkler is now 1 day per week from 4:00 am to 7:00 am. Our leaders go by the book... That would be a book from Arizona.

Aug 4, 2024 - 2:52:01 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

How about the watering of golf courses. ,,, oh no… don’t stop that! (sarcasm font)


Watch it Chuck!  How would people keep their sanity if they couldn't play golf.

Aug 4, 2024 - 3:02:59 PM
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chuckv97

Canada

72602 posts since 10/5/2013

quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

How about the watering of golf courses. ,,, oh no… don’t stop that! (sarcasm font)


Watch it Chuck!  How would people keep their sanity if they couldn't play golf.


By playing banjo, John.... wink

Aug 4, 2024 - 3:19:11 PM
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15214 posts since 1/15/2005

Good point ...... so I guess I'll just do both!

Aug 4, 2024 - 4:25:36 PM
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rinemb

USA

16480 posts since 5/24/2005

quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

How about the watering of golf courses. ,,, oh no… don’t stop that! (sarcasm font)


Oh, well the businesses are exempt. Car washes, golf courses, and other essential services.  

Aug 4, 2024 - 4:29:04 PM
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chuckv97

Canada

72602 posts since 10/5/2013

“essential” could be up for debate….

Edited by - chuckv97 on 08/04/2024 16:36:35

Aug 5, 2024 - 6:00:35 AM
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rinemb

USA

16480 posts since 5/24/2005

We are in phase 2 water restriction presently. I have not even read the phase 3 restrictions, yet. Brad

Aug 7, 2024 - 6:09:35 AM
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rinemb

USA

16480 posts since 5/24/2005

My assigned water day is Thursday. I do not water my lawn, nor wash my car at home, so I will refill all my water cans and refill a barrel I filled before the restrictions were imposed.
One person on a local chat site, put it this way. My dog and I were taking our shower-outside, and oops, in the process the water got on my flowers and lawn.
It will be interesting to read the reported water usage after week One, if we achieved the targeted 10% reduction in water use. Temperatures have been remained in the near 100*F with no rain. However, after today, temps are forecast to moderate with some chance of rain.
brad

Edited by - rinemb on 08/07/2024 06:10:36

Aug 7, 2024 - 7:17:12 AM

Owen

Canada

15634 posts since 6/5/2011

Maybe you'll get lucky .... last nite we got about 7 or 8 times as much rain as was forecast [forecast for < 1 mm ... we got about 6].   

However, it was enuff to put about a foot into the totes I have set up to catch rain water ... it'll water the gardens for a couple of weeks so long as we remember to move the hose often enough.  Though we don't get long periods of real h-o-t weather, we can use lots more rain.

We've never lived under water use restrictions per se ... only periodic, relatively short "boil water advisories" on some of the fly-in reserves.

Aug 7, 2024 - 7:55:26 AM

Buddur

USA

4013 posts since 10/23/2004

We got 2 hella storms yesterday...around lunchtime and dinner time. Before dusk I walked down the road to the falls and sure enough the water was raging over it.

Aug 7, 2024 - 10:36:41 AM
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rinemb

USA

16480 posts since 5/24/2005

quote:
Originally posted by Buddur

We got 2 hella storms yesterday...around lunchtime and dinner time. Before dusk I walked down the road to the falls and sure enough the water was raging over it.


Sounds wonderful. 

Aug 8, 2024 - 8:16:21 AM

351 posts since 10/26/2018

quote:
Originally posted by donc

So we live in a continual rain belt. We have 2 giant reservoirs not counting the 1 in the city. This week we had 3 days with lots of rain. SO... Why do do we have water restrictions ? An automatic lawn sprinkler is now 1 day per week from 4:00 am to 7:00 am. Our leaders go by the book... That would be a book from Arizona.


Sounds like someone is thinking ahead. Soon enough, water will be more valuable than gold and people will literally be dying for it.

Aug 8, 2024 - 11:36:59 AM

3038 posts since 4/16/2003

There's a reason you won't find large populations in the middle of the Sahara desert. It's called "carrying capacity".

Without enough water, more than a token number of humans can't survive there.

Of course, the carrying capacity of places like Arizona, Nevada, and perhaps now Kansas is far FAR higher. The technology of Western Civilization assures that. But still, there remain eventual "limits" to growth. When those limits are stretched or exceeded... well... restrictions are going to be imposed.

The underground aquifers that were long-taken-for-granted are eventually going to run down towards depletion. What then?

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