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Jul 2, 2024 - 5:43:23 PM

Kellie

USA

294 posts since 1/19/2018

I wrote part of a small overture for banjo in tabs, so it's easier for folks to play, but I can't figure out how to upload it. I think I figured it out but I don't know if it will post with this message. I guess we'll see. Anyway I intended for it to be played in the classic style with the bass string tuned to C. If you do play it, let me know what you think of it.


Jul 2, 2024 - 6:21:28 PM

15690 posts since 6/2/2008

What is the tuning 5 to 1?

Jul 2, 2024 - 6:25:48 PM

Kellie

USA

294 posts since 1/19/2018

quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory

What is the tuning 5 to 1?


Darn it! This is my first time using tab. I apologize. I'm more of a standard notation guy. I guess it just made sense for me to set up the tab this way because the way I think about it the top string is what you would consider the bottom string for some reason in my mind.

Edited by - Kellie on 07/02/2024 18:27:55

Jul 2, 2024 - 6:26:52 PM

Kellie

USA

294 posts since 1/19/2018

quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory

What is the tuning 5 to 1?


Oh wait I misread. The tuning goes as follows gCGBD or if you want to play it like I totally can't right now eAEG#B.

Jul 2, 2024 - 7:11:26 PM

8497 posts since 9/21/2007

Why not post the notation?

Jul 2, 2024 - 7:41:04 PM

15690 posts since 6/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by Kellie
quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory

What is the tuning 5 to 1?


Oh wait I misread. The tuning goes as follows gCGBD or if you want to play it like I totally can't right now eAEG#B.


Thanks.

It would be helpful if you included that in the tab. Also a note as to key. And if you could add the chords, that would be a help.

An even bigger help would be an audio file so anyone attempting it knows what it's supposed to sound like. But since you can't play it yet . . .

Jul 2, 2024 - 7:55:33 PM

11417 posts since 4/23/2004

For those of us who might play this, notation would be best. That way, each of us will interpret the fingering as suits us.

Although I use tab, I do my own conversions from notation.

Jul 2, 2024 - 8:26:56 PM

Kellie

USA

294 posts since 1/19/2018

quote:
Originally posted by trapdoor2

For those of us who might play this, notation would be best. That way, each of us will interpret the fingering as suits us.

Although I use tab, I do my own conversions from notation.


Gotcha! I can convert it to notation rather easily. In theory. I'll get back to you.

Jul 2, 2024 - 8:28:13 PM

Kellie

USA

294 posts since 1/19/2018

quote:
Originally posted by Joel Hooks

Why not post the notation?


I'm so used to people in the banjo community not reading notation. I forget there are classic banjo players on this site. Not that others can't play from notation, it's just less common than tab apparently.

Jul 2, 2024 - 8:31:45 PM

Kellie

USA

294 posts since 1/19/2018

quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory
quote:
Originally posted by Kellie
quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory

What is the tuning 5 to 1?


Oh wait I misread. The tuning goes as follows gCGBD or if you want to play it like I totally can't right now eAEG#B.


Thanks.

It would be helpful if you included that in the tab. Also a note as to key. And if you could add the chords, that would be a help.

An even bigger help would be an audio file so anyone attempting it knows what it's supposed to sound like. But since you can't play it yet . . .


I'm going to try sending an MP3 file real quick. It's technically on muse sounds but it sounds pretty good The only thing is the playback is set to guitar so it's going to sound weird. Edit: It did not work.

Edited by - Kellie on 07/02/2024 20:32:17

Jul 2, 2024 - 9:26:30 PM

11417 posts since 4/23/2004

quote:
Originally posted by Kellie
quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory
quote:
Originally posted by Kellie
quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory

What is the tuning 5 to 1?


Oh wait I misread. The tuning goes as follows gCGBD or if you want to play it like I totally can't right now eAEG#B.


Thanks.

It would be helpful if you included that in the tab. Also a note as to key. And if you could add the chords, that would be a help.

An even bigger help would be an audio file so anyone attempting it knows what it's supposed to sound like. But since you can't play it yet . . .


I'm going to try sending an MP3 file real quick. It's technically on muse sounds but it sounds pretty good The only thing is the playback is set to guitar so it's going to sound weird. Edit: It did not work.


If you have it saved on the musescore site, perhaps you can just send us a link.

Musescore has banjo sounds...not perfect, but OK.

Jul 2, 2024 - 9:57:44 PM

Kellie

USA

294 posts since 1/19/2018

quote:
Originally posted by trapdoor2
quote:
Originally posted by Kellie
quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory
quote:
Originally posted by Kellie
quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory

What is the tuning 5 to 1?


Oh wait I misread. The tuning goes as follows gCGBD or if you want to play it like I totally can't right now eAEG#B.


Thanks.

It would be helpful if you included that in the tab. Also a note as to key. And if you could add the chords, that would be a help.

An even bigger help would be an audio file so anyone attempting it knows what it's supposed to sound like. But since you can't play it yet . . .


I'm going to try sending an MP3 file real quick. It's technically on muse sounds but it sounds pretty good The only thing is the playback is set to guitar so it's going to sound weird. Edit: It did not work.


If you have it saved on the musescore site, perhaps you can just send us a link.

Musescore has banjo sounds...not perfect, but OK.


I probably shouldn't publish it on musescore yet. It's not really finished. I apologize I should have waited before posting it. I was just excited.

Jul 3, 2024 - 3:09:05 AM

RB-1

Netherlands

4030 posts since 6/17/2003

Why don't you yourself just play it on the banjo and record? So we can hear how you intended it to sound.

That would be much more of a help than both tab or notation. Those would be fine when figuring out the details after listing for getting the general idea.

I have a pretty good sense about a tab in G tuning and what it would sound like, but for timing subtilities I'd like to hear the original player's ideas, enabling me coming up with my own interpretation.

Jul 3, 2024 - 5:38:52 AM

11417 posts since 4/23/2004

Kellie,

I had 30min this morning and I've copied your notation into Musescore...up to the Andante con moto.

Interesting!

1. You have the whole thing in 5/4 but there are quite a few measures of 4/4. It would be better to show 4/4 for those particular measures...

2. not sure how a "pizzacato" modifier actually would be played on the banjo, since it is a plucked instrument anyway. Perhaps staccato?

I'll do the rest after lunch. What tempo? (I just left it at the default 120).

Jul 3, 2024 - 7:41:13 AM

Kellie

USA

294 posts since 1/19/2018

quote:
Originally posted by trapdoor2

Kellie,

I had 30min this morning and I've copied your notation into Musescore...up to the Andante con moto.

Interesting!

1. You have the whole thing in 5/4 but there are quite a few measures of 4/4. It would be better to show 4/4 for those particular measures...

2. not sure how a "pizzacato" modifier actually would be played on the banjo, since it is a plucked instrument anyway. Perhaps staccato?

I'll do the rest after lunch. What tempo? (I just left it at the default 120).


I haven't quite decided on an exact metronome marking yet. 

Aw shucks you didn't have to do all of that, I was trying to figure out how to transpose it into C notation rather than A notation and adjust everything before I posted it. 

I'm sorry if there's any confusion about 5/4 to 4/4 I'm not the best at notating as I've never been formally trained.

I'm not sure where this pizzicato marking is do you have an exact measure you're looking at?

Jul 3, 2024 - 7:54:07 AM

11417 posts since 4/23/2004

 

I haven't quite decided on an exact metronome marking yet. 

Aw shucks you didn't have to do all of that, I was trying to figure out how to transpose it into C notation rather than A notation and adjust everything before I posted it. 

I'm sorry if there's any confusion about 5/4 to 4/4 I'm not the best at notating as I've never been formally trained.

I'm not sure where this pizzicato marking is do you have an exact measure you're looking at?


Measures 8 and 9 have what looks like an "power button" above the staff. Musescore uses this as a pizzicato marking.

Easy way to convert tab to notation: go to the instrument tab and click on the tiny black triangle. That will pull down a "settings" tab where you select "standard" (instead of one of the tab formats). That will convert your tab to standard notation...in C notation (because you said that was the tuning used).

I've been using Musescore since v2...so I've gotten quick at it! laugh

Edited by - trapdoor2 on 07/03/2024 07:56:21

Jul 3, 2024 - 10:42:23 AM
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11417 posts since 4/23/2004

Ok, here's the notation based on your original PDF above.

I've sorted out all the time signatures...I think. Not sure of what key was intended so I left that open.

I removed the "Bartok pizzicato" sign in M8 and M9...but it can easily be re-added if you want the snap. I also converted the "Ord." command to "a tempo" in order to indicate the end of the ritardando.

To be sure, I'm simply having fun with this. No judgement. I haven't tried to play it...!

Just added the mp3...


Edited by - trapdoor2 on 07/03/2024 10:48:42

Jul 3, 2024 - 1:29:33 PM

Kellie

USA

294 posts since 1/19/2018

quote:
Originally posted by trapdoor2
 

I haven't quite decided on an exact metronome marking yet. 

Aw shucks you didn't have to do all of that, I was trying to figure out how to transpose it into C notation rather than A notation and adjust everything before I posted it. 

I'm sorry if there's any confusion about 5/4 to 4/4 I'm not the best at notating as I've never been formally trained.

I'm not sure where this pizzicato marking is do you have an exact measure you're looking at?


Measures 8 and 9 have what looks like an "power button" above the staff. Musescore uses this as a pizzicato marking.

Easy way to convert tab to notation: go to the instrument tab and click on the tiny black triangle. That will pull down a "settings" tab where you select "standard" (instead of one of the tab formats). That will convert your tab to standard notation...in C notation (because you said that was the tuning used).

I've been using Musescore since v2...so I've gotten quick at it! laugh


Oh the Snap? This is where you pinch the string and pull it upward and let it slam down into the fretboard. I believe Bartok either invented it or popularized it.

The tuning I use is different from the tuning that I would expect others to use especially because people don't want to tune their banjos that low. I wrote it with my banjo tuned to the old low A tuning. 

Jul 3, 2024 - 3:02:24 PM

11417 posts since 4/23/2004

quote:
Originally posted by Kellie
quote:
Originally posted by trapdoor2
 

I haven't quite decided on an exact metronome marking yet. 

Aw shucks you didn't have to do all of that, I was trying to figure out how to transpose it into C notation rather than A notation and adjust everything before I posted it. 

I'm sorry if there's any confusion about 5/4 to 4/4 I'm not the best at notating as I've never been formally trained.

I'm not sure where this pizzicato marking is do you have an exact measure you're looking at?


Measures 8 and 9 have what looks like an "power button" above the staff. Musescore uses this as a pizzicato marking.

Easy way to convert tab to notation: go to the instrument tab and click on the tiny black triangle. That will pull down a "settings" tab where you select "standard" (instead of one of the tab formats). That will convert your tab to standard notation...in C notation (because you said that was the tuning used).

I've been using Musescore since v2...so I've gotten quick at it! laugh


Oh the Snap? This is where you pinch the string and pull it upward and let it slam down into the fretboard. I believe Bartok either invented it or popularized it.

The tuning I use is different from the tuning that I would expect others to use especially because people don't want to tune their banjos that low. I wrote it with my banjo tuned to the old low A tuning. 


Very easy to convert to A notation in Musescore. Even easier using tab...since you do nothing as long as the scheme is the same (eAEG#B = gCGBD).

The Bartok pizz isn't properly supported in Musescore. The playback basically ignores it. i had to learn to do it on the Viola for some piece, years ago. It was called a "snap pizz" on the sheet music we used.

Jul 3, 2024 - 4:03:40 PM

Kellie

USA

294 posts since 1/19/2018

quote:
Originally posted by trapdoor2
quote:
Originally posted by Kellie
quote:
Originally posted by trapdoor2
 

I haven't quite decided on an exact metronome marking yet. 

Aw shucks you didn't have to do all of that, I was trying to figure out how to transpose it into C notation rather than A notation and adjust everything before I posted it. 

I'm sorry if there's any confusion about 5/4 to 4/4 I'm not the best at notating as I've never been formally trained.

I'm not sure where this pizzicato marking is do you have an exact measure you're looking at?


Measures 8 and 9 have what looks like an "power button" above the staff. Musescore uses this as a pizzicato marking.

Easy way to convert tab to notation: go to the instrument tab and click on the tiny black triangle. That will pull down a "settings" tab where you select "standard" (instead of one of the tab formats). That will convert your tab to standard notation...in C notation (because you said that was the tuning used).

I've been using Musescore since v2...so I've gotten quick at it! laugh


Oh the Snap? This is where you pinch the string and pull it upward and let it slam down into the fretboard. I believe Bartok either invented it or popularized it.

The tuning I use is different from the tuning that I would expect others to use especially because people don't want to tune their banjos that low. I wrote it with my banjo tuned to the old low A tuning. 


Very easy to convert to A notation in Musescore. Even easier using tab...since you do nothing as long as the scheme is the same (eAEG#B = gCGBD).

The Bartok pizz isn't properly supported in Musescore. The playback basically ignores it. i had to learn to do it on the Viola for some piece, years ago. It was called a "snap pizz" on the sheet music we used.


Sorry that I assumed you didn't know what the snap was. I don't think I talk to enough musicians. 

That does sound easy I'll give it a try later.

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