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Jun 18, 2024 - 9:07:35 AM
2409 posts since 10/12/2004

Was it ever divulged who ended up with his Granada?

Jun 18, 2024 - 9:22:15 AM
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2837 posts since 1/4/2009

He doesnt want it to be known public-ally, so please if you do know, respect his wishes. There is a great facebook page now called sonnys granada, join that, direct connection to the owner.  Theres really no good reason to know the name, just know that its in good hands, is getting oppurtunies to be played by the best and shared. Its not for sale or going to be soon, so knowing what names owns it is really just setting up the owner of a very valuable insturment for more problems and worries. Please respect his privacy. 

Edited by - kyleb on 06/18/2024 09:27:09

Jun 18, 2024 - 9:51:40 AM
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2409 posts since 10/12/2004

The video by Lincoln says it will be played on shows so folks can still hear it. When that time comes., it will be known by the public. quote:
Originally posted by kyleb

He doesnt want it to be known public-ally, so please if you do know, respect his wishes. There is a great facebook page now called sonnys granada, join that, direct connection to the owner.  Theres really no good reason to know the name, just know that its in good hands, is getting oppurtunies to be played by the best and shared. Its not for sale or going to be soon, so knowing what names owns it is really just setting up the owner of a very valuable insturment for more problems and worries. Please respect his privacy. 


Jun 20, 2024 - 7:30:43 AM

2837 posts since 1/4/2009

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Originally posted by Stevespickn
The video by Lincoln says it will be played on shows so folks can still hear it. When that time comes., it will be known by the public. quote:
Originally posted by kyleb

He doesnt want it to be known public-ally, so please if you do know, respect his wishes. There is a great facebook page now called sonnys granada, join that, direct connection to the owner.  Theres really no good reason to know the name, just know that its in good hands, is getting oppurtunies to be played by the best and shared. Its not for sale or going to be soon, so knowing what names owns it is really just setting up the owner of a very valuable insturment for more problems and worries. Please respect his privacy. 


 


follow this https://www.facebook.com/sonnys.banjo facebook page, it seems the owner is going to get it in the hands of various players. 

Jun 21, 2024 - 8:58 PM

74 posts since 9/12/2023

Crazy he doesn’t want to be known. There are much more valuable banjos out there and the owners don’t mind people knowing who they are.

I’ve a 5 string worth quite a bit more than that banjo…

Jun 22, 2024 - 4:29:49 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

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30305 posts since 8/3/2003

quote:
Originally posted by Juggernaut NPU

Crazy he doesn’t want to be known. There are much more valuable banjos out there and the owners don’t mind people knowing who they are.

I’ve a 5 string worth quite a bit more than that banjo…


I don't see anything crazy about wanting to keep the new owner a secret.   It's really nobody's business who owns what and if those were Sonny's last wishes, who are we to disagree and call him crazy?

Jun 22, 2024 - 5:32:48 AM

2837 posts since 1/4/2009

quote:
Originally posted by Juggernaut NPU

Crazy he doesn’t want to be known. There are much more valuable banjos out there and the owners don’t mind people knowing who they are.

I’ve a 5 string worth quite a bit more than that banjo…


Wondering what five you have that is worth quite a bit kore than Sonny's Granada? Would love to see it!

Jun 23, 2024 - 1:53:44 AM

143 posts since 12/16/2014

quote:
Originally posted by Juggernaut NPU

Crazy he doesn’t want to be known. There are much more valuable banjos out there and the owners don’t mind people knowing who they are.

I’ve a 5 string worth quite a bit more than that banjo…


 
Yaa OK keep dreaming or you have been one to many times to the dispensary 
Jun 23, 2024 - 6:02:31 AM

74 posts since 9/12/2023

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Originally posted by The Gibson Man
quote:
Originally posted by Juggernaut NPU

Crazy he doesn’t want to be known. There are much more valuable banjos out there and the owners don’t mind people knowing who they are.

I’ve a 5 string worth quite a bit more than that banjo…


 
Yaa OK keep dreaming or you have been one to many times to the dispensary 

 


lol. Gibsons aren't he most variable banjos. I know you'd like for them to be. You can keep dreaming, too. 
 

There is life beyond the boring flathead. 

Jun 23, 2024 - 7:39:31 AM

2837 posts since 1/4/2009

quote:
Originally posted by Juggernaut NPU
quote:
Originally posted by The Gibson Man
quote:
Originally posted by Juggernaut NPU

Crazy he doesn’t want to be known. There are much more valuable banjos out there and the owners don’t mind people knowing who they are.

I’ve a 5 string worth quite a bit more than that banjo…


 
Yaa OK keep dreaming or you have been one to many times to the dispensary 

 


lol. Gibsons aren't he most variable banjos. I know you'd like for them to be. You can keep dreaming, too. 
 

There is life beyond the boring flathead. 


What banjo that you have that is worth more than 250k??? Honest question. Could you please enlighten me ?

Jun 23, 2024 - 8:03:10 AM

4865 posts since 3/28/2008

quote:
Originally posted by kyleb
quote:
Originally posted by Juggernaut NPU
quote:
Originally posted by The Gibson Man
quote:
Originally posted by Juggernaut NPU

Crazy he doesn’t want to be known. There are much more valuable banjos out there and the owners don’t mind people knowing who they are.

I’ve a 5 string worth quite a bit more than that banjo…


 
Yaa OK keep dreaming or you have been one to many times to the dispensary 

 


lol. Gibsons aren't he most variable banjos. I know you'd like for them to be. You can keep dreaming, too. 
 

There is life beyond the boring flathead. 


What banjo that you have that is worth more than 250k??? Honest question. Could you please enlighten me ?


1. All-original flathead, one-piece-flange prewar Mastertone--greatly desired by bluegrass banjo players, and very rare.

2. Granada--a thing of beauty to many of us, and the model played by Earl Scruggs from 1949 until his death (though with substantial modifications.

3. Owned by one of the great bluegrass players.

Jun 23, 2024 - 8:34:07 AM

2837 posts since 1/4/2009

Right.. that’s what I’m saying , juggernaut is making a claim that prewar five string flatheads aren’t the most valuable banjo and he owns a five that’s worth more than prewar flathead fives. I’m trying to find out what banjo that could possibly be. I personally havnt ever heard of any banjo other Gibson selling in the 200k range. So I’m just wondering what he’s talking about.

Jun 23, 2024 - 9:53:35 AM
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2314 posts since 4/18/2006

I’ve heard of original five string, flathead, one piece flange granadas (of which there are around 18 of) in original shape going for $250,000 to $350,000 (or less if they have “issues” like replacement parts, refinish, or repairs). I assume Sonny’s went for more than that. When he was living he told a few people I know that he had been offered $500,000 for it. I don’t know of any other banjo worth that much aside from Earl’s, but I do know some of the old five string, tenor, and plectrum banjos of the 20’s and 30’s can be quite rare and valuable (and very beautiful!). I could see the Consalvi banjo going for that much maybe.

Edited by - banjo1930 on 06/23/2024 10:08:26

Jun 23, 2024 - 10:08:28 AM

2837 posts since 1/4/2009

quote:
Originally posted by banjo1930

I’ve heard of original five string, flathead, one piece flange granadas (of which there are around 18 of) in original shape going for $250,000 to $350,000 (or less if they have “issues” like replacement parts, refinish, or repairs). I assume Sonny’s went for more than that. When he was living he told a few people I know that he had been offered $500,000 for it. I don’t know of any other banjo worth that much aside from Earl’s, but I do know some of the old tenor and plectrum banjos of the 20’s and 30’s can be quite rare and valuable (and very beautiful!). I could see the Consalvi banjo going for that much maybe.


I've heard of some high end plectrums and tenors getting up around 100k, and the consalvi banjo would likely hold a lot of value but that's not really one that should be in this discussion as it's not ever going to be available for purchase. I guess I'm skeptical that other banjos actually sell for more than the half million dollar Gibson sales. I'd love to hear what banjo juggernaut is talking about, educate me! 

Edited by - kyleb on 06/23/2024 10:12:21

Jun 23, 2024 - 10:09:34 AM

2 posts since 4/7/2024

Sonny"s Granada, Which Sonny, I don't know?

Jun 23, 2024 - 10:13:35 AM

2837 posts since 1/4/2009

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Originally posted by knewberry

Sonny"s Granada, Which Sonny, I don't know?


Well then you should probably just drop out of this discussion , famous banjo from the most famous Sonny to ever pick one.

Jun 23, 2024 - 10:27 AM

2314 posts since 4/18/2006

quote:
Originally posted by knewberry

Sonny"s Granada, Which Sonny, I don't know?


The great Sonny Osborne

Jun 23, 2024 - 10:29:18 AM
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15128 posts since 1/15/2005

I would rather own the Scotland Granada than Sonny's. I think the purchase price was in the 400k+ neighborhood, as I understand a 400k offer was turned down. Sonny did say that he was offered 500k, but anyone could offer anything, but until a check is written, it does not mean anything, in my opinion. The question "will you take $500 for your Granada" is not necessarily an offer.

Jun 23, 2024 - 10:48:18 AM

2837 posts since 1/4/2009

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Originally posted by BanjoLink

I would rather own the Scotland Granada than Sonny's. I think the purchase price was in the 400k+ neighborhood, as I understand a 400k offer was turned down. Sonny did say that he was offered 500k, but anyone could offer anything, but until a check is written, it does not mean anything, in my opinion. The question "will you take $500 for your Granada" is not necessarily an offer.


Back to juggernauts statement , have you heard of any other banjo that wasn't a Gibson selling for 400k or more ?? I've seen similar statements as juggernauts before that they exist, but I'm wondering what are they and who is buying them??!

Jun 23, 2024 - 11:01:42 AM
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Ellery

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220 posts since 12/31/2007

@kyleb What a rude thing to say to someone taking a legitimate interest in this discussion. I sincerely hope nobody ever talks that way to you when you're trying to learn about something new. 
-Ellery
quote:
Originally posted by kyleb
quote:
Originally posted by knewberry

Sonny"s Granada, Which Sonny, I don't know?


Well then you should probably just drop out of this discussion , famous banjo from the most famous Sonny to ever pick one.


Jun 23, 2024 - 11:46:54 AM
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2837 posts since 1/4/2009

I suppose you’re right, I figured it was another Gibson hater , didn’t mean to be rude if it’s really a new person trying to learn.

Jun 23, 2024 - 3:05:20 PM

15128 posts since 1/15/2005

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Originally posted by kyleb
quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink

I would rather own the Scotland Granada than Sonny's. I think the purchase price was in the 400k+ neighborhood, as I understand a 400k offer was turned down. Sonny did say that he was offered 500k, but anyone could offer anything, but until a check is written, it does not mean anything, in my opinion. The question "will you take $500 for your Granada" is not necessarily an offer.


Back to juggernauts statement , have you heard of any other banjo that wasn't a Gibson selling for 400k or more ?? I've seen similar statements as juggernauts before that they exist, but I'm wondering what are they and who is buying them??!


I have never heard of another iconic brand selling for anywhere near what original Gibson flatheads sell for.  If his argument is about the quality of some of the old Bacon's, Fairbanks, etc. that may be another argument.  I have been collecting and playing banjos for about 50 years, and quite frankly, in spite of what a lot of people say or think, their quality was pretty darn good.

Jun 23, 2024 - 4:09:35 PM

159 posts since 9/23/2019

quote:
Originally posted by Juggernaut NPU

Crazy he doesn’t want to be known. There are much more valuable banjos out there and the owners don’t mind people knowing who they are.

I’ve a 5 string worth quite a bit more than that banjo…


It doesn't matter if it's a $3,000 banjo. If you're the owner and you want to keep the ownership of it to yourself, then that's your call. Simple as that. 

Jun 23, 2024 - 4:23:16 PM

74 posts since 9/12/2023

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Originally posted by szbassoon
quote:
Originally posted by Juggernaut NPU

Crazy he doesn’t want to be known. There are much more valuable banjos out there and the owners don’t mind people knowing who they are.

I’ve a 5 string worth quite a bit more than that banjo…


It doesn't matter if it's a $3,000 banjo. If you're the owner and you want to keep the ownership of it to yourself, then that's your call. Simple as that. 


Alright. Don't care about your opinion here. Simple as that. 

Jun 23, 2024 - 4:36:36 PM
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24 posts since 4/28/2007

Anything is worth what someone else is willing to pay for it. Banjos are really no different. Someone once offered me a ridiculous amount of money for my old Gibson flathead. I immediately said, No. Later the same night the offered was raised. I never actually met the gentleman in question since his driver was going back and forth between the car and the jam session I was in. I finally told the driver that if I sold my banjo to his boss, then what would I play. I’d have to go out and try to find another one that sounds that good. No thanks, I’ll just keep what I already own.
Sometimes you like your banjo so much that money is not part of the discussion.

Jun 23, 2024 - 4:51:26 PM

143 posts since 12/16/2014

quote:
Originally posted by Juggernaut NPU
quote:
Originally posted by The Gibson Man
quote:
Originally posted by Juggernaut NPU

Crazy he doesn’t want to be known. There are much more valuable banjos out there and the owners don’t mind people knowing who they are.

I’ve a 5 string worth quite a bit more than that banjo…


 
Yaa OK keep dreaming or you have been one to many times to the dispensary 

 


lol. Gibsons aren't he most variable banjos. I know you'd like for them to be. You can keep dreaming, too. 
 

There is life beyond the boring flathead. 


Jugger I think NauT...but to each his own it's only as valuable as you want it to be or what it means to you 

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