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Jun 11, 2024 - 3:59:44 AM
3343 posts since 1/16/2013

Jun 11, 2024 - 4:43:35 AM
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6936 posts since 10/13/2007

Jim,
That is really exciting to see such a royalty of the pre war family brought out. It was fun to see the pictures and hear the story. I loved hearing the playing. I am sure you will get "baby" a great home.
Ken

Jun 11, 2024 - 4:44:55 AM

7 posts since 5/22/2024

Isn't the first rule of the classifieds section that every item for sale must have a specific cost in USD?

Jun 11, 2024 - 5:12:38 AM
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6936 posts since 10/13/2007

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Originally posted by clawed_hammer

Isn't the first rule of the classifieds section that every item for sale must have a specific cost in USD?


Here is the 1st rule from the hangout in classifieds:

Listings marked as “For Sale” or “For Sale or Trade” must be given a specific price in $US. If you are flexible on the price and want to let people make offers, simply state that in your listing. Items marked as “For Trade” only do not require a price.

So you see, there is a method for posting where you do not have to state a specific price. Hope that helps.

Ken

Jun 11, 2024 - 5:45:10 AM
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7 posts since 5/22/2024

quote:
Originally posted by From Greylock to Bean Blossom
quote:
Originally posted by clawed_hammer

Isn't the first rule of the classifieds section that every item for sale must have a specific cost in USD?


Here is the 1st rule from the hangout in classifieds:

Listings marked as “For Sale” or “For Sale or Trade” must be given a specific price in $US. If you are flexible on the price and want to let people make offers, simply state that in your listing. Items marked as “For Trade” only do not require a price.

So you see, there is a method for posting where you do not have to state a specific price. Hope that helps.

Ken


That means you give a price, but if you're flexible and will consider offers you can state that also. It doesn't negate the need for an actual listed price.

Hope I've clarified that for you, thanks for your time.

Jun 11, 2024 - 7:17:26 AM
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lazyarcher

Canada

7383 posts since 4/19/2004

What an amazing find Jim..Im almost a bit surprised its advertised here, but thanks for the pictures and video.

If you have to ask about the price...well, you probably cant afford it LOL.

Ive been chasing a local mid 30s Granada for 40 years. I know where it is and the owner and when he's ready to sell, I know what the cost will be.

Jun 11, 2024 - 9:58:51 AM
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KCJones

USA

3062 posts since 8/30/2012

quote:
Originally posted by lazyarcher


If you have to ask about the price...well, you probably cant afford it LOL.

 


What a ridiculous statement. Most people that are financially well-off care more about how they spend their money, not less. Collectors of instruments absolutely care about how much they spend on a collectors item. 

I've got the cash to spend $50k on a banjo, or a car, or a boat, or a horse, or anything else for that matter, if I wanted. I don't want to, but I absolutely could afford it without even blinking. But that doesn't change the fact that I want to know the price of a product before I buy it.

Fact of the matter, is that these "contact for pricing" listings intentionally violate the rules to circumvent their intended effect. The reason for that rule is obvious: so people can't hide the prices of what they're selling from the general public. And that's also the same reason that these prewars don't have prices shown: because the current owners don't want people to know how much they're going for these days. 

Edited by - KCJones on 06/11/2024 10:03:46

Jun 11, 2024 - 10:25:37 AM
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lazyarcher

Canada

7383 posts since 4/19/2004

Well I disagree.
Anyone in the prewar Gibson flathead market with any knowledge knows approximately what the price of this banjo is going to be..with the refinished reso, replaced non gold flange, etc. Jim Britton has been a great resource for bringing these treasures to the open market where previously they were sold behind the scenes. He says contact him..so if you're really interested, call.

Jun 11, 2024 - 10:44:16 AM
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KCJones

USA

3062 posts since 8/30/2012

Your entirely missing the point. This is about arbitrary enforcement of rules and special treatment of power users. Statements about "market knowledge" are irrelevant.

Jun 11, 2024 - 10:55:17 AM

7 posts since 5/22/2024

quote:
Originally posted by lazyarcher

Well I disagree.
Anyone in the prewar Gibson flathead market with any knowledge knows approximately what the price of this banjo is going to be..with the refinished reso, replaced non gold flange, etc. Jim Britton has been a great resource for bringing these treasures to the open market where previously they were sold behind the scenes. He says contact him..so if you're really interested, call.


Your agreement or otherwise with regards to the state of the prewar Gibbo market is irrelevant, so let us not get distracted.

The advert is in direct contradiction to the rules of the marketplace.

Could a mod confirm whether or not the rules apply to everyone equally, or if there's a dollar amount where they no longer apply?

Jun 11, 2024 - 11:54:26 AM
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3618 posts since 12/31/2005

Jim -- I will send you a blank check. After you have shipped the banjo, please fill in the check with any amount you choose. Holy cow, that thing sounds great. And I am not one who just thinks anything that says any prewar Gibson is necessarily better than other good banjos. But there is no denying this one.

Jun 11, 2024 - 12:25:17 PM
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lazyarcher

Canada

7383 posts since 4/19/2004

quote:
Originally posted by KCJones

Your entirely missing the point. This is about arbitrary enforcement of rules and special treatment of power users. Statements about "market knowledge" are irrelevant.


Ohhhh..now I see..some people don't like that the ad doesn't have a price.

I'll be sure to give Jim the feedback.  I won't take up any more of this threads time with irrelevant comments. 

Jun 11, 2024 - 2:05:56 PM

7 posts since 5/22/2024

quote:
Originally posted by lazyarcher
quote:
Originally posted by KCJones

Your entirely missing the point. This is about arbitrary enforcement of rules and special treatment of power users. Statements about "market knowledge" are irrelevant.


Ohhhh..now I see..some people don't like that the ad doesn't have a price.

I'll be sure to give Jim the feedback.  I won't take up any more of this threads time with irrelevant comments. 


 

No one asked you to get involved in the first place, so you really aren't required to feed anything back. You're not really needed here at all.

Jun 11, 2024 - 2:15:08 PM

4078 posts since 9/21/2009

You look at any thread that has a Pre War banjo listed and a price listed for it and you will see that the thread is full of posts saying that the seller is asking an outrageous price for it. I don't blame any seller for withholding the price. If anyone is truly interested, they wont mind sending the seller a message asking for a price. Honestly, if I or anyone else wanted to sell a banjo string and priced it for 100.000 dollars, it's nobody's business but theirs. Nobody has to buy it. It may sound silly, but if that's the sellers price, it's none of my business. That being said, Jim has the reputation of being an honest and fair man and I have never heard anyone say one word contrary to that. If I was looking to buy a pre-war banjo, he would be the first guy I would talk to. As far as that banjo, it sounds amazing! I would love to be it's caretaker, but I'll never be able to afford to own an instrument like that! Someone is going to get a fine instrument when they purchase this one!

Jun 11, 2024 - 2:26:40 PM

6936 posts since 10/13/2007

There was a price on it. $1. Pricing that way for unique items has been used frequently by many people on the hangout for a long time.
Ken

Jun 11, 2024 - 2:38:31 PM

KCJones

USA

3062 posts since 8/30/2012

Jeez folks, there's no reason to be so rude to Mr. Jack.

It's a good banjo, I'm sure it's worth at least a dollar. No need to get so worked up about it.

Jun 11, 2024 - 2:41:09 PM
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3343 posts since 1/16/2013

You guys keep it up… This is great. It’s going to make my thread the most popular on the hangout. Thank you for the advertising.

Jun 11, 2024 - 4:06:35 PM
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1682 posts since 11/10/2022

This is weird, someone with 5 posts chose to burn them on complaining about no price on a 125000 dollar banjo. (Guestimated Based on a Huber recent sale. )

And the call of hypocracy! lol. I bet if you create an ad for 1 dollar, the owner wont bother you either...because hes a nice level, headed guy. Now dont get in your car and go 56 in a 55 on your way to whatever tomorrow unless your willing to turn yourself in.

Jun 11, 2024 - 4:26:07 PM

7 posts since 5/22/2024

quote:
Originally posted by NotABanjoYoda

This is weird, someone with 5 posts chose to burn them on complaining about no price on a 125000 dollar banjo. (Guestimated Based on a Huber recent sale. )

And the call of hypocracy! lol. I bet if you create an ad for 1 dollar, the owner wont bother you either...because hes a nice level, headed guy. Now dont get in your car and go 56 in a 55 on your way to whatever tomorrow unless your willing to turn yourself in.


 

You know, you can Google the word "hypocracy" if you don't know what it means :)

Jun 11, 2024 - 4:39:17 PM
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5454 posts since 11/20/2004

Wonderful banjo and highly credible seller. He will benefit from this thread, as he hopes.
Unfortunately, the Hangout has become a reflection of today's culture of people looking to get their feelings offended and others wanting to be rule enforcers. If it promotes banjos, love it, and if not, click on something else, but stop whining!

Jun 11, 2024 - 4:44:09 PM

7 posts since 5/22/2024

quote:
Originally posted by Ceres Banjo Works

You guys keep it up… This is great. It’s going to make my thread the most popular on the hangout. Thank you for the advertising.


The saddest part of all of this is that the people hurling themselves into the mud to defend you are totally blind to the fact that you're laughing at them for it.

Your market manipulation doesn't hurt your critics, only those cultists who flock to your bosom in the hopes that one day you'll be kind enough to sell them a 90 year old instrument with a counterfeit neck for $125k

Weirdly, deep down, I actually root for you more than any of these fanboys do- it's actually pretty funny. My only real problm with your ad was there was no pricetag to laugh at for me and my bro (shout out big Dru hollar g money)

You keep doing you, you glorious crook- rinse these muppets for all you can :) The cowardly mods on here won't dare try and stop you, so go for it xxx

Jun 11, 2024 - 7:04:10 PM
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4078 posts since 9/21/2009

I think it's about time the Mods take out the trash and I'm not talking about Jim!!

Jun 11, 2024 - 7:19:50 PM
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3343 posts since 1/16/2013

"a 90 year old instrument with a counterfeit neck"

this neck is not counterfeit… It's 100% real Frank Neat. Just as real as Frank Neat is possibly eating popcorn watching the late show right now in Russell Springs Kentucky.

Jun 11, 2024 - 7:27:19 PM
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3343 posts since 1/16/2013

Jun 12, 2024 - 3:21:25 AM

1 posts since 6/12/2024

So have we got to the bottom of why there is no price on the listing? $1 doesn't make any sense, I don't care if that's what people do - why?

How much is it and how much is shipping to the UK. Straightforward. Boom. Tell me. Thank you.

Jun 12, 2024 - 4:24:56 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

30203 posts since 8/3/2003

The troll is gone.

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