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May 20, 2024 - 8:30:41 AM
29 posts since 11/30/2023

Looked around the RK site..Trying to find an accurate size measurement for the Nut width on this model...
Anyone own one?

May 20, 2024 - 9:45:11 AM
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Specs at Sweetwater say 1-1/4 inch.

I also can't find it anywhere else.

You might ask  Recording King through their contact page. 

May 20, 2024 - 10:50:50 AM

29 posts since 11/30/2023

Heya Ken, I did ask RK through their site...hope to hear from them..as well to verify. Thanks for checking Sweetwater... RK took 3 weeks to answer me on a string gauge question that was answered finally on second attempt. lol That is why I thought about BHO. Much appreciated.
TJ

May 20, 2024 - 1:34:40 PM
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Originally posted by Old Hickory

Specs at Sweetwater say 1-1/4 inch.

I also can't find it anywhere else.

You might ask  Recording King through their contact page. 


According to Recording King....Here is the answer about the RKH 05 Dirty 30 NUT Width.

Hi Jeff,
 
Thanks for your interest!
 
The D30s Resonator Banjo has a nut width of 1-3/16".
 
Hope that helps!
 
Sam

 

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May 20, 2024 - 5:32:58 PM
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15310 posts since 6/2/2008

Good thing you asked.

May 20, 2024 - 6:34:13 PM

3388 posts since 5/2/2012

Interesting....I googled earlier today and AI came back with an answer...1-3/16" ..plus some other information about that banjo you can readily find on the 'net.

May 21, 2024 - 1:28:35 PM
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RioStat

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6302 posts since 10/12/2009

quote:

According to Recording King....Here is the answer about the RKH 05 Dirty 30 NUT Width.

Hi Jeff,
 
Thanks for your interest!
 
The D30s Resonator Banjo has a nut width of 1-3/16".
 
Hope that helps!
 
 

Over the past few years, I've handled probably a dozen of these entry level Dirty Thirties neck, from both the resonator and open-back RK models.

They're fairly well built necks, fret jobs are decent, though sometimes frets need dressed down along the edge of the fingerboard, but anyways, you've asked about the nut width (not frets)

The width of the nut is not the issue with these necks, it is the string spacing on the cheap, injection molded nuts that are used on the RKH necks.

Below are photos of two different RK Dirty Thirties necks that I have.

The first photo is of the actual NECK WIDTH measurement at the nut (almost 1.25"width)

Second photo shows the width of the ACTUAL NUT (not even 1 3/16") You can see "unused" wood to the let of the nut, the same is true to the right of the nut, also.

Third photo is to show the string spacing on the RK plastic nut. Very, very tight string spacing, difficult to fret even with "small-to-normal sized" fingers  (I have what I would call "normal/average" sized fingers)

With the plastic nut, there is a lot of wasted space on the fretboard, to the left of the 4th (D/wound) string, and to the right of the first (treble D) string On the neck pictured, the 4th string slot sits .217" from the edge of the fret, (almost a 1/4"!) 

The last photo, the neck with strings on it shows a bone nut that I made, and spaced the strings out to a more normal & comfortable spacing, utilizing every bit of fret and fretboard that I could.

As I said earlier, I've gone through quite a few of these necks (there used to be a couple vendors on ebay where you could buy these necks for cheap) and I have used on them on pre-war Gibson shoe bracket / flange plate TB 1 conversions, used them on different "parts banjo" builds, etc....however, on every RK Dirty Thirties neck that I have used, I have replaced the plastic nut with bone (including the 5th string pip/nut)

Hope this helps

***EDIT: I added a photo showing the unused neck wood, to the left of the plastic nut ***


Edited by - RioStat on 05/21/2024 13:37:31

May 29, 2024 - 4:42:46 AM

3 posts since 3/12/2024

I have the RKH 06 which is from the same Dirty 30 line. The neck width at the nut measures 1.19 inches and the nut width is 1.17. The distance from the center of each D string to the adjacent edge of the nut is 0.17 inches. The space between each string is 0.26 inches.

Scott, any advice for removing the stock plastic nut? I want to make the same modification as you. What is the new distance from the D strings to the edges of the new bone nut?

May 30, 2024 - 3:43:49 PM
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RioStat

USA

6302 posts since 10/12/2009

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Originally posted by prince_casual

I have the RKH 06 which is from the same Dirty 30 line. The neck width at the nut measures 1.19 inches and the nut width is 1.17. The distance from the center of each D string to the adjacent edge of the nut is 0.17 inches. The space between each string is 0.26 inches.

Scott, any advice for removing the stock plastic nut? I want to make the same modification as you. What is the new distance from the D strings to the edges of the new bone nut?


I lay a small block of wood on the fretboard, butted up against the nut, then carefully give the block of wood a couple gentle taps with a small hammer, the nut should just pop free.

The nut's usually held on with just a small spot of glue.....a couple wood fibers may come off with any glue spot, but that will under the new nut so no worries.

the 4th string slot is about .093" from outer edge of nut to center of slot, first string is around .086" from nut edge to center of slot.

I'd your eyes be the judge on string spacing though, since it depends on how close to the beveled fret end you want to get.

Jun 3, 2024 - 4:19:23 AM

3 posts since 3/12/2024

Thanks RioStat Scott, those numbers are a helpful starting point and I will do what you say and use my eye to space them out.

The nut slot in the neck of my banjo is 0.24" wide (corresponding to nut thickness). All of the bone blanks I see for sale online for banjos are 3/16" thick. Is that normal to have that big of a difference between the two? Or maybe it's a nominal/actual thing like in lumber... Did you find that to be the case with your RK necks? One thought I had is to buy a 1/4" guitar nut bone blank. What do you recommend?

Jun 3, 2024 - 9:44:02 AM
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RioStat

USA

6302 posts since 10/12/2009

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Originally posted by prince_casual

Thanks RioStat Scott, those numbers are a helpful starting point and I will do what you say and use my eye to space them out.

The nut slot in the neck of my banjo is 0.24" wide (corresponding to nut thickness). All of the bone blanks I see for sale online for banjos are 3/16" thick. Is that normal to have that big of a difference between the two? Or maybe it's a nominal/actual thing like in lumber... Did you find that to be the case with your RK necks? One thought I had is to buy a 1/4" guitar nut bone blank. What do you recommend?


Cary, I had several bone blanks laying around, and I believe I did us a 1/4" thick guitar nut blank that I cut down to proper length.

You'll probably have to "fine tune" the nut length and height a bit to get it where you want it. If you use a guitar nut blank, cut the length a little longer than needed, then work it down with a small wood rasp, or a good cutting flat file. Coarse to medium sandpaper removes bone fairly quickly also.

File, sand. check the fit frequently.....you can always make the nut smaller, but you can't make it larger !

I use these to cut the slots...I have .020", a .013" and a .010".       nut files

I rock the .010" back and forth when cutting a slot for .011" (B string slot) to get the .011"

These nut-cutting files were about $7.00 each when I bought mine 10 years ago !  I'll admit...they're a little pricey now for just a one-time job, but they cut a nice, round bottomed slot that the strings fit in perfectly.

Jun 4, 2024 - 10:13:17 AM

3 posts since 3/12/2024

Your details are much appreciated and I will let you know how it goes. There are several other posts I found with helpful tips for this process.

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