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May 6, 2024 - 9:31:01 AM
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rinemb

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16292 posts since 5/24/2005

The pic shows some clumps of grass/weed that came up in my corner where I dump dirt and potting soils waste. This clumps are from dirt I excavated to rebuild a garden area. Nothing kills it. I have tried Kilz-All, roundup, nut grass killer, weed killers, and gasoline. It won’t brown and die, and will barely show wilting. What am I dealing with, in this years long fight?
Thanks, brad


 

May 6, 2024 - 9:34:26 AM
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Dump hot salt water on the clumps..
Good n salty water..n..good n hot..

Looks like crab grass..but i dunno.

May 6, 2024 - 9:39:34 AM
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rinemb

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16292 posts since 5/24/2005

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Originally posted by STUD figmo Al

Dump hot salt water on the clumps..
Good n salty water..n..good n hot..

Looks like crab grass..but i dunno.


Its not crab grass, for sure. But crab grass should be our State ground cover! ??

May 6, 2024 - 9:40:22 AM
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rinemb

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16292 posts since 5/24/2005

I have never tried hot salty water. Thx

May 6, 2024 - 10:36:25 AM

41249 posts since 3/5/2008

quote:
Originally posted by rinemb
quote:
Originally posted by STUD figmo Al

Dump hot salt water on the clumps..
Good n salty water..n..good n hot..

Looks like crab grass..but i dunno.


Its not crab grass, for sure. But crab grass should be our State ground cover! ??


Looks like the sharp stiff stuff down in Fla..or the Carribian..

May 6, 2024 - 12:26:56 PM
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rinemb

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16292 posts since 5/24/2005

The plant is just slightly more stiff than tall fescue. I sprayed a big area of mixed cover/vegetation, from oxeye daisy to dandelion to grass to various weeds. Everything else is well wilted and browning…but this stuff. Arghhhh

May 6, 2024 - 12:39:06 PM

15060 posts since 1/15/2005

quote:
Originally posted by rinemb

The plant is just slightly more stiff than tall fescue. I sprayed a big area of mixed cover/vegetation, from oxeye daisy to dandelion to grass to various weeds. Everything else is well wilted and browning…but this stuff. Arghhhh


I was going to say that it looks like clumps of Tall Fescue, but all of those herbicides that you used will kill Tall Fescue ..... particularly Round-up.  No idea what you could use if those chemicals won't kill it.  Maybe just dig it up.

May 6, 2024 - 1:22:25 PM

Owen

Canada

15168 posts since 6/5/2011

Not advice, but rather relating my experience .... I put some powdered borax on some smallish ant colonies >> reduced the ant population AND killed the grass [almost one year on and the grass hasn't started creeping back in sad].

May 6, 2024 - 2:01:05 PM

Owen

Canada

15168 posts since 6/5/2011

... maybe check into "brush killers"  From what I recall they provide some sort of synergy (?) by mixing two chemicals??     If you have anything like a county ag. extension service they might have some useful info ... as would private agronomy services [though I expect one would cost more than t'other].     Good luck.

May 6, 2024 - 2:11:43 PM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

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30203 posts since 8/3/2003

You might check into Groundclear. I use it to kill anything that grows in my alley and on the side of both carports. It works for about a year and then you have to do it again. So far it has killed anything I put it on. I got mine at Lowe's, but I'm sure other places carry it.

May 6, 2024 - 2:15:12 PM

Bill Rogers (Moderator)

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Bleach or acetone or paint stripper.

May 6, 2024 - 2:19:47 PM
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You might check into Groundclear. I use it to kill anything that grows in my alley and on the side of both carports. It works for about a year and then you have to do it again. So far it has killed anything I put it on. I got mine at Lowe's, but I'm sure other places carry it.


Sherry ..... there are things that will kill it but also sterilize the ground.  If he wants to plant something else there, he should not use a soil sterilizer.

May 6, 2024 - 2:26:55 PM

705 posts since 9/29/2009

I don't know if you would want to do this if it is close to a building or fence but I use a tiger torch every spring in my vegetable garden to fry unwanted weeds and seeds. Roundup used to work good but the stuff we get in Canada now is so weak that it doesn't do much

May 6, 2024 - 2:38:33 PM
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Owen

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15168 posts since 6/5/2011

BIlly, Billy, Billy!! ... are you telling me you didn't buy some for "just in case" back when "they" were threatening to put the kibosh on it for "cosmetic" [i.e. not ag., and/or golf course] usage?!?!   cheeky

May 6, 2024 - 3:21:06 PM
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rinemb

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16292 posts since 5/24/2005

I have “private select”. RU. The f you are a Fed, I am kidding. ;-). ;-)
Being old oil field, we used to kill or rid everything with diesel fuel and a weed burner. Brad

May 6, 2024 - 3:26:39 PM

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If your Roundup is the new formula without glyphosate, then that’s likely why it doesn’t work. Glyphosate is a known carcinogen, and Monsanto has lost BIG-money lawsuits over it. Starting last year, it was no longer in weed-killers they make for non-commercial consumers. Even the conservative city of Lodi, where l Iive, has banned glyphosate weed killers.

Edited by - Bill Rogers on 05/06/2024 15:32:24

May 6, 2024 - 4:02:51 PM

3803 posts since 4/5/2006

Every plant or weed needs two things to survive, sunlight & water. Throw a tarp over the area & weight it down around the edges with whatever you have available. But it wouldn't hurt to give the ground a liberal soaking of diesel fuel, and light it up beforehand. laugh

May 6, 2024 - 4:22:39 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Bill Rogers

If your Roundup is the new formula without glyphosate, then that’s likely why it doesn’t work. Glyphosate is a known carcinogen, and Monsanto has lost BIG-money lawsuits over it. Starting last year, it was no longer in weed-killers they make for non-commercial consumers. Even the conservative city of Lodi, where l Iive, has banned glyphosate weed killers.


Not so Bill!

Quote: "The WHO Joint Meeting on Pesticide Residues and United Nations (U.N.) Food and Agriculture Organization determined that glyphosate is unlikely to be a carcinogen".  This is from The Center for Truth in Science!

Of course you can probably find a source that says it is.  It is probably out there!

May 6, 2024 - 4:52:59 PM

Owen

Canada

15168 posts since 6/5/2011

Heck, John, you can find both claims within the same article.   https://enveurope.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s12302-018-0184-7

May 6, 2024 - 6:41:10 PM
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rinemb

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16292 posts since 5/24/2005

quote:
Originally posted by Bill Rogers

If your Roundup is the new formula without glyphosate, then that’s likely why it doesn’t work. Glyphosate is a known carcinogen, and Monsanto has lost BIG-money lawsuits over it. Starting last year, it was no longer in weed-killers they make for non-commercial consumers. Even the conservative city of Lodi, where l Iive, has banned glyphosate weed killers.


Yep. Stash of old recipe.  I am careful.  It's about gone.  It is like my ancient bottle of chlordane. A product that actually killed bugs. But is was a nasty carcinogen.  It sure killed ants, termites and bag worms.

May 6, 2024 - 6:48:16 PM

1029 posts since 2/11/2019

Good comments about black plastic. I would take some of those bricks and put on top of the plastic where each clump is, that or some scrap wood. Torches are also a good organic solution, but you will burn through a lot of propane for me it's not the most cost effective but it is quick. Both solutions work best if you've had some days of dry weather, something we seldom see in Ohio.

Edited by - Mad Hornet on 05/06/2024 18:48:36

May 6, 2024 - 6:54:43 PM
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" A farmer from Saskatchewan filed a class action lawsuit, claiming that glyphosate caused him to develop NHL"

May 6, 2024 - 6:59:09 PM

Bill Rogers (Moderator)

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Chlordane also nailed wasps. I remember back when it was still legal, my dad wiping out a attic wasp infestation by just spraying some Chlordane into the entrance they were using. I used Dieldrin (now also banned) to great effect on yellow jackets. Of course we’re better off without these nasty and persistent chemicals hanging around in the environment.

Edited by - Bill Rogers on 05/06/2024 19:02:23

May 6, 2024 - 8:32:31 PM

Owen

Canada

15168 posts since 6/5/2011

quote:
Originally posted by Billybilt Banjo

" A farmer from Saskatchewan filed a class action lawsuit, claiming that glyphosate caused him to develop NHL"


Tongue-in-cheek, did the guys spray it on themselves, or drink it, or  ..????

Here's a link to one story.  https://globalnews.ca/news/5286779/saskatchewan-farmer-lawsuit-weedkiller-cancer/ Tony Merchant representing the plaintiffs leads me to "wonder," although the defense gets its opportunity, so I guess "ya gotta believe."  [ At least 'til all the laundry* is done.]

* = i.e. It'll all come out in the wash .................... I guess.

Edited by - Owen on 05/06/2024 20:36:43

May 6, 2024 - 9:38:04 PM

12769 posts since 8/22/2006

quote:
Originally posted by rinemb

The pic shows some clumps of grass/weed that came up in my corner where I dump dirt and potting soils waste. This clumps are from dirt I excavated to rebuild a garden area. Nothing kills it. I have tried Kilz-All, roundup, nut grass killer, weed killers, and gasoline. It won’t brown and die, and will barely show wilting. What am I dealing with, in this years long fight?
Thanks, brad


What you have is nutgrass look it up. You can pull up a clump and find what looks like nuts on the root system. It's called nutgrass because it drives you nuts getting rid of it. Leave one little nut nodule in the ground and you're back in the same predicament next year. While you are looking up nutgrass lookup lariope it's a nut grass as well but it's sometimes used as edging around flower beds that stuff can get away from you as well.

Edited by - 5B-Ranch on 05/06/2024 21:40:48

May 7, 2024 - 5:05:18 AM

heavy5

USA

3082 posts since 11/3/2016

Will be interesting to see if any future growth survives there ? If you're planting anything edible , I wouldn't eat it !

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