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Apr 25, 2024 - 2:09:33 PM
3548 posts since 1/17/2004

UPDATE: Added photo of the heel

Bought from a HO member maybe 8-10 years ago when I was living in Europe, had it shipped to my sister in the US where it still sits. Thinking about selling or trading, but I can't remember what the heck it is. Looks like a StewMac kit from - '70s maybe? Would especially like to know maker of the integrated archtop cast aluminum pot. I think some were made by Ome, or was it Ode??

Thanks for any help!


Edited by - MrNatch3L on 05/08/2024 08:40:17

Apr 25, 2024 - 2:57:21 PM

15443 posts since 6/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by MrNatch3L

Looks like a StewMac kit from - '70s maybe? Would especially like to know maker of the integrated archtop cast aluminum pot. I think some were made by Ome, or was it Ode??


Have you considered writing to Stew-Mac to ask who made the aluminum pots for their 1970s kit banjos? Or writing to Ode to ask if they made them? Today's Ode is still in the hands of the Ogsbury family. Ome was sold to Gold Tone, so not sure if contacting them is useful.

Apr 25, 2024 - 4:10:58 PM

2488 posts since 2/9/2007

Looks like a Stew-Mac. "Eagle" was their brand. I think they got the rims from Ode, or from whoever made Ode's cast rims.

Apr 25, 2024 - 4:28:31 PM
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5855 posts since 5/29/2011

One of the founders of Stewart MacDonald was an employee of Ode. That's probably where the the rim design came from. The neck looks like it came from a Saga kit.

Apr 25, 2024 - 6:31:01 PM
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3561 posts since 4/7/2010

quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory
quote:
Originally posted by MrNatch3L

Looks like a StewMac kit from - '70s maybe? Would especially like to know maker of the integrated archtop cast aluminum pot. I think some were made by Ome, or was it Ode??


Have you considered writing to Stew-Mac to ask who made the aluminum pots for their 1970s kit banjos? Or writing to Ode to ask if they made them? Today's Ode is still in the hands of the Ogsbury family. Ome was sold to Gold Tone, so not sure if contacting them is useful.


Kix Stewart and Bill MacDonald sold Stew-Mac 8(?) years ago and the new owners know very little about the history of the company. They just want to sell loads of guitar parts.

Ode's current owner, Zen Ogsbury (a son of Chuck Ogsbury) does not know much about the history of ODE. He recently referred  an inquiry to me for replacement parts on an old Baldwin-Ode long neck banjo.

I believe the banjo the OP has presented is a Stewart Macdonald Eagle Kit banjo with the peghead customized. I do not discount the possibility that the rim is from Stew-Mac while the neck was imported by Saga. A Saga neck would have a stacked heel, rather than a one piece neck that all the Eagle kit banjos had.

 

Bob Smakula

Apr 26, 2024 - 7:37:23 AM
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2838 posts since 1/4/2009

It’s a kit banjo, but it’s a saga kit not a stew Mac.

Apr 27, 2024 - 1:37:08 PM

5855 posts since 5/29/2011

quote:
Originally posted by kyleb

It’s a kit banjo, but it’s a saga kit not a stew Mac.


I don't know about that. Everything about the pot looks like StewMac, the ball-shaped bracket shoes, the oval flange holes, the thumb screws on each side, right down to the Eagle kit head. The peghead shape is the only thing that doesn't look StewMac to me.

In regards to Bob Smakula's post, the way the neck is finished, it's hard for me to see if the heel is stacked or one piece. If the picture was clearer it would be easier to figure out.

Edited by - Culloden on 04/27/2024 13:40:15

Apr 30, 2024 - 4:45:20 PM

13170 posts since 10/27/2006

Everything about it looks like early Stew-Mac to me including the headstock.

Saga kits were different in many ways.

Apr 30, 2024 - 10:35:10 PM

69 posts since 5/28/2010

I' ve owned a couple Stew-Macs (still own one) and I've seen several others. None of them had a headstock like this one.

I'm not claiming it isn't a Stew-Mac (maybe it's an early design and they were still getting the kinks out?) just saying the headstock it doesn't resemble any that I've run across.

Edited by - wileypickett on 04/30/2024 22:36:14

May 1, 2024 - 6:52:30 AM
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2043 posts since 1/13/2012

Stewart-MacDonald offered more than one peghead design (see the attached photo).

Also, these were kits... people could (and did) cut the peghead into whatever shape they wanted. The shaping on the one in the first post looks a bit crude, so it may not be the factory shaping.


 

May 1, 2024 - 7:35:53 AM

69 posts since 5/28/2010

quote:
Originally posted by wileypickett

I' ve owned a couple Stew-Macs (still own one) and I've seen several others. None of them had a headstock like this one.

I'm not claiming it isn't a Stew-Mac (maybe it's an early design and they were still getting the kinks out?) just saying the headstock doesn't resemble any that I've run across.


May 1, 2024 - 7:37:01 AM

69 posts since 5/28/2010

quote:
Originally posted by wileypickett

I' ve owned a couple Stew-Macs (still own one) and I've seen several others. None of them had a headstock like this one.

I'm not claiming it isn't a Stew-Mac (maybe it's an early design and they were still getting the kinks out?) just saying the headstock doesn't resemble any that I've run across.


May 1, 2024 - 7:52:52 AM

69 posts since 5/28/2010

quote:
Originally posted by wileypickett

I' ve owned a couple Stew-Macs (still own one) and I've seen several others. None of them had a headstock like this one.

I'm not claiming it isn't a Stew-Mac (maybe it's an early design and they were still getting the kinks out?) just saying the headstock doesn't resemble any that I've run across.


May 6, 2024 - 6:30:31 PM

ssduke

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19 posts since 2/2/2008

I’ve got a Stew-Mac kit banjo I assembled in the mid- or late-70s. The pot, 4-piece flange, bracket hooks and Eagle-brand head are identical to the banjo in the picture. As others have noted, the peghead shape is different. A bigger distinction is the truss rod cover on the peghead in the picture. The truss rod on my version is accessed through the heel, not the peghead. Did any of the Stew-Mac kit necks have peghead access for the truss rod?

May 6, 2024 - 11:06:42 PM

69 posts since 5/28/2010

Access to the truss rod on both my StewMacs is via the peghead. (One was a Style 2 [sold], the other a Style 3R [I still have], according to the ad helpfully provided by Andy, above. Can't really see the truss rod covers in the ad. The 3R TRC is a triangular black / white plastic laminate. I forget what the other was.) 

Edited by - wileypickett on 05/06/2024 23:18:20

May 8, 2024 - 8:43:34 AM

3548 posts since 1/17/2004

I remember catalog pics like that. Based on it, I think what I have is a Style 3R. I'm thinking to put this up for trade. I'd like to use your photo in the ad if that's OK.
quote:
Originally posted by Andy FitzGibbon

Stewart-MacDonald offered more than one peghead design (see the attached photo).

Also, these were kits... people could (and did) cut the peghead into whatever shape they wanted. The shaping on the one in the first post looks a bit crude, so it may not be the factory shaping


May 8, 2024 - 8:50:52 AM

2043 posts since 1/13/2012

quote:
Originally posted by MrNatch3L
I remember catalog pics like that. Based on it, I think what I have is a Style 3R. I'm thinking to put this up for trade. I'd like to use your photo in the ad if that's OK.
quote:
Originally posted by Andy FitzGibbon

Stewart-MacDonald offered more than one peghead design (see the attached photo).

Also, these were kits... people could (and did) cut the peghead into whatever shape they wanted. The shaping on the one in the first post looks a bit crude, so it may not be the factory shaping


 


Fine by me. It's not my photo. I just found it on a Google search.

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