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Apr 20, 2024 - 5:02:49 PM
42 posts since 4/14/2024

Hi all,
So I am looking at getting either the RK R20 or the RK R76 (I like mahagony). I was thinking that I could get the 20 and maybe put a tone ring in. I went looking around and found the PB 680 pot assembly and I thought..cool..maybe I could do this. Every place I looked said they were sold out. Are they not making this anymore?

Apr 20, 2024 - 5:51:47 PM
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grich

USA

9428 posts since 10/24/2004

Sorry those pot assemblies are no longer being produced

Apr 20, 2024 - 5:56:15 PM
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RioStat

USA

6284 posts since 10/12/2009

If I'd known then, what I know now.....I'd have bought a hundred of those pot assemblies !

Here's basically the exact same thing...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/145653340992

Apr 20, 2024 - 6:21:58 PM

banjonz

New Zealand

12032 posts since 6/29/2003

quote:
Originally posted by grich

Sorry those pot assemblies are no longer being produced


Does REMO make the 'Recording King' branded heads?

Apr 20, 2024 - 6:41:53 PM

KCJones

USA

3002 posts since 8/30/2012

I wish

Apr 20, 2024 - 7:18:03 PM

grich

USA

9428 posts since 10/24/2004

Yes Remo makes our banjo heads

Apr 20, 2024 - 7:50:55 PM

15219 posts since 6/2/2008

Does anybody besides Remo make banjo heads anymore?

Seems to this layperson that none of the drum head makers want anything to do with banjo heads.

Apr 21, 2024 - 8:38:54 AM

15219 posts since 6/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by Patrick1962

I was thinking that I could get the 20 and maybe put a tone ring in. I went looking around and found the PB 680 pot assembly and I thought..cool..maybe I could do this. 


No, you can't do that. At least not as easily as you're imagining.

Even though the PB680 pot assembly is no longer sold as a combo part, as linked above, you can buy a used RK pot for a very reasonable price on eBay. So availability of a bluegrass pot isn't the issue.

The issue is you can't just install an RK-20 neck on a pot that includes a rim cut for a pre-war style one-piece flange. The heel of the RK-20 neck is cut to fit a straight-sided rim with the the same 11 inches outside diameter at both of the lag bolts. Necks for pots with one-piece flange need to fit an 11-inch outside diameter at the upper lag and a smaller outside diameter at the bottom.

This means the lower lag portion of the heel has to be longer than the upper area -- which means that to adapt the RK-20 neck, you have to cut away woodat the upper lag. Is there enough wood beyond the 22nd fret to cut away to achieve a correct fit? I don't know. But I doubt it. So you probably have to add wood to the lower lag area. Sort of like adding a very thick shim.

Can it be done? Sure. I own a 70s Gibson neck on which a previous owner added over 1/4-inch of wood to the lower lag area to adapt it from two-piece flange to one-piece flange. If you can't do this yourself, then you have to pay someone to do it. You won't be able to reassemble the RK-20 with its original pot should you decide to sell.

If you want a louder bluegrass banjo with a flathead tone ring and flange, then I think the more practical course of action is to sell your RK20 for $400 or more and then add the $400 to $500 it would cost you out of pocket to buy an RK pot assembly (according to the eBay ads) and use the resulting $800 to $900 tobuy a used RK-35 or 36.

I can think of some other modifications to add a tone ring or rim and ring combo to the RK-20. They all cost money, but they don't require any neck work. But I don't think they make economic sense, so I'll keep them to myself.

Good luck.

Apr 21, 2024 - 6:04:11 PM

bill t

USA

355 posts since 12/14/2012

Used RK-36. He says in the original post that he likes mahogany. RK-35 is maple.
From the original post, I didn't think he'd bought an RK-20. He was just possibly
"looking at getting".

Apr 21, 2024 - 9:47:08 PM

42 posts since 4/14/2024

Thanks for the responses..was just tossing around ideas. And no, unfortunately I haven't gotten the RK 20 yet. Following another posters advice in a different thread I am more than likely going to get a 20 and then in a couple of years get a 76. (cant explain it, just LOVE RK banjos) The only reason I don't just get a 36 is I don't particularly care for the "flying eagle" inlay...I know, I know..that's a really silly reason but I figure if I'm going to spend that much money I should at least like the way it looks. I could wait and save for another month or two and just get the 76 but at my level (only been playing for 8 months) it would be more banjo than what I really need at my level

Apr 22, 2024 - 6:02:12 AM
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bill t

USA

355 posts since 12/14/2012

I may be misunderstanding here but the RK-36 does not have a "Flying Eagle"
inlay pattern on it. The inlay pattern on the RK-36 seems to be referred to as
a "Seagull" pattern. As to the "Flying Eagle" pattern, if you don't "like the way
it looks" you don't like it. Makes good sense to me.

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