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Mar 12, 2024 - 7:58:06 AM
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I've always loved shooting pool ever since hanging around the 2 halls in Rockland (Phil's and Alex's) in the late 60s.
25 cents a rack made for cheap thrills on a Saturday night uptown.

I played a lot of music at the Kennebec Wharf in Hallowell in the 80s and 90s.
Bob Ladd owned the "Wharf" bar and added the floor above on main street and installed 7 9' tables.
I got totally hooked on shooting on good tables with good cues.

When Bob moved on the tables above the Wharf were removed and I swore at that time I would have a good table of my own,someday.
In 2002 I built a 24' addition and put in an "Advantech" 3.5" x 18" x 24' beam to create a 24' space with no posts which means no obstructions or shortened cues.
Marty Carey (childhood friend) assembled my antique Brunswick table.
He recommended removing the original Monarch gum-rubber cushions because of dead spots brought on by old age.I agreed and Marty took the 6 rails home to his jig and glued on new "Accu-Fast" rubbers.
He recommended not using Simonis cloth and said I would get "more miles" with a cheaper "National" home cloth.

He was right as I'm still playing on that cloth 21 years later.
The rail corners at the pockets are the first to wear through and I added minimal protectors with blue tape.

I was considering recovering the old girl myself,but this is a 4 piece slate with 3 "seams" that are adjusted with boxwood wedges on rails underneath.

After the slates are fine-tuned for individual and overall level the seams are filled with paraffin wax.
Cloths pulled to the correct tension and 4' 1/4" pine strips holding the rail cloths in a groove in the oak.

If I had to I think I would do OK,but for $575 (including the cloths) Maine's biggest billiards and gaming company is going to show up on April 3rd and do the whole thing in one day.

When I first started thinking of recovering/tune up I remember telling my friends if I could get it all done for $575 I wouldn't hesitate hiring it down by pros.
I couldn't hardly believe it when I was quoted $575 when I called them.
Their coming all the way from Lewiston.

Edited by - steve davis on 03/12/2024 08:01:08

Mar 12, 2024 - 8:59:57 AM
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rinemb

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16217 posts since 5/24/2005

Unfortunately, I don't play pool anymore. I am prioritizing the space for a music conservatory, good sound and tv. You made the right decision.
I would never hesitate to pay a pro to recover my pool table. And as you have said buying high-grade cloth is well worth the extra money. I am trying to sell my slate top table, and I tell folks its time to re-cushion after 45 years and it will have to be re-covered along with the move and re-setup.
The problem is, the table is on my 3rd floor and even after breaking it down the main frame will have to come in from outside. During the pandemic the local pro movers estimated about 800.00 for move and setup and re-cover.  Likely breaching a 1000.00 dollars presently.  I also tell folks I will only allow it to be moved by a professional pool table mover and setup-er. Folks respond saying...oh I got some buddies.... What part of no don't they understand. Brad

Edited by - rinemb on 03/12/2024 09:01:18

Mar 12, 2024 - 9:13:48 AM
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79648 posts since 5/9/2007

With the moving and assembly $800 seems fair.
My table is the same model seen in the hall scenes in "The Hustler".
The BBC "Novelty" was the pool hall standard of the day.
There was also one in the old dorm across from the gym at SMVTI when I was there.
That poor old table had broken rails from big,drunk young guys picking up corners to show off their strength.

This table (50x100) weighs 1100 pounds.
I will put on new pockets at some point,but these bait bags from lobster traps work so good I don't know when that will be.

Pool hall time these days is around $10/hour plus the driving to get there.It doesn't take long to justify having one at home.

Edited by - steve davis on 03/12/2024 09:17:24

Mar 12, 2024 - 12:42:08 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by rinemb

Unfortunately, I don't play pool anymore. I am prioritizing the space for a music conservatory, good sound and tv. You made the right decision.
I would never hesitate to pay a pro to recover my pool table. And as you have said buying high-grade cloth is well worth the extra money. I am trying to sell my slate top table, and I tell folks its time to re-cushion after 45 years and it will have to be re-covered along with the move and re-setup.
The problem is, the table is on my 3rd floor and even after breaking it down the main frame will have to come in from outside. During the pandemic the local pro movers estimated about 800.00 for move and setup and re-cover.  Likely breaching a 1000.00 dollars presently.  I also tell folks I will only allow it to be moved by a professional pool table mover and setup-er. Folks respond saying...oh I got some buddies.... What part of no don't they understand. Brad


I think it took three or four guys with dollies to move mine in and assemble it.  If I remember correctly, there were three pieces of slate maybe a couple of inches thick and were extremely heavy.  My table is a California custom table made of solid rosewood and is really beautiful, with green fabric covering.  The rails are still lively, but would probably change them if it is ever moved.  Mine rarely get played on.

Mar 12, 2024 - 1:27:28 PM
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41088 posts since 3/5/2008

$575.00..?

DEAL...!

Kinda ah..no-brainer...
Good luck..!

Lookin forward to the report.. :0)

Mar 12, 2024 - 1:46:21 PM

79648 posts since 5/9/2007

Our old (1875ish) Odd Fellows Hall has an old Brunswick 9' table on the 3rd floor.
It is their "Cambridge" model with carved "Egyptian Frieze" panels encircling its lower sides and rope carving on top.
It plays great and is in perfect condition.Tables like this can be worth 50k.

The old OF Hall has narrow,old-fashioned stairs (especially from the 2nd to 3rd floor) and it must have been quite a chore to block and tackle those slates up to the 3rd floor.Of course T Harbor was populated by fishermen and quarry workers,so they probably made fairly quick work of it.

They say that table was originally in the millinery store in Tenants Harbor.

Edited by - steve davis on 03/12/2024 13:56:45

Mar 12, 2024 - 4:22:17 PM

2629 posts since 7/20/2004

Our neighbors on the lake where our family cabin is located have an antique Brunswick table, complete with leather mesh pockets, that was brought up through the chain of lakes on a barge in the early 1920s, just after their cabin was built. It's a gorgeous table. I have no idea whether or not it gets any use today.

Mar 13, 2024 - 3:09:14 AM

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I'm jealous. Wish I played pool. I could probably get a 9' table in my rarely used dining room. But I play snooker and a 12' table just wouldn't work.

Mar 13, 2024 - 6:22:41 AM
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79648 posts since 5/9/2007

All old Brunswick table models had names that represented their decoration and construction.
The company was initially named "Brunswick Balke Collander".
There's a table in an old house here that Mark Twain played on.That table was professionally restored last year.

These old tables can be a bit challenging to those that have only worked on modern ones.

Mar 14, 2024 - 3:48:44 PM
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1264 posts since 3/7/2006

Your antique and well built classic tables sound incredible. It is very worthwhile to take care of them, preserve them, and play them. I am an amateur woodworker, and in my exuberance, I sent to Popular Mechanics back in the '70's for the plans to build your own slate top pool table. $1 including postage. I still have the plans, but never built the table. Perhaps Retirement is a good time to start.

Mar 14, 2024 - 4:27:34 PM
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I offered a pool table, free, to anyone who wanted to horse it up out of the basement in the house I had purchased.

No takers, so it's now just something with boxes and crates staked on and under.

Mar 14, 2024 - 7:46:20 PM

79648 posts since 5/9/2007

It's tough to find the 5' perimeter table clearances for no short sticks,making it hard to find a good spot for a 9 footer.
I'm so happy with this 24' addition and there's going to be a ping pong space upstairs.I'm a very gamey type as are my friends.

Mar 14, 2024 - 7:57:10 PM

79648 posts since 5/9/2007

There are 2 old tables at our TOGUS VA campus,but at this time they are stored away in pieces because 100% of TOGUS' space is dedicated to hospital work at this time.
I'd like to see those tables just to know what model/year they are.
TOGUS,the nations first VA hospital after the Civil War ca. 1866,could possibly have a couple of BBC tables from the late 1800s.
My theater friends there know where they are.

Mar 15, 2024 - 7:10:33 AM
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slammer

USA

4527 posts since 12/30/2008

Steve , what color are you going with. When I was 17 I bought my first pool table, an American 8’ with red cloth and drop pockets. We had a local guy that had been setting up and selling tables for many years. He did it all by himself and he was 2nd to none.
I remember the look on my dads face when he came home and found a pool table in his basement. NOT GOOD!!! It was my passion for many years!!!
Slammer!!!

Mar 15, 2024 - 7:41:56 AM
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79648 posts since 5/9/2007

I'm going with a traditional green,Dale.
I've enjoyed playing on red felts too,but I can only choose one.
This 1895 table seems to want an old-fashioned green,imo.

Mar 15, 2024 - 6:54:54 PM
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I called the table people this morning and said I'd like to replace the bait bags with a new set of pockets while they were here.
The store rep said that the folks that sold them got $650 for an antique set and kept the frames for 6-8 weeks.
I told him I liked my bait bags much better now.

Mar 18, 2024 - 3:34:45 PM

slammer

USA

4527 posts since 12/30/2008

Wow, wasn’t expecting that price!!!
Slammer!!!

Mar 18, 2024 - 5:10:31 PM
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41088 posts since 3/5/2008

Steve..
Dose this now make you a recoering pool ah-hallick..?

:0)

Mar 19, 2024 - 8:07:10 AM

79648 posts since 5/9/2007

Good one,Al.
I also like "Shoot like you have a set of balls."

Apr 16, 2024 - 7:44:39 AM
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79648 posts since 5/9/2007

A black Cadillac (Escalade?) rolled up the driveway last Wednesday at 9am.
A young lady stepped out and asked if this was the home of the old pool table.
I answered "yes it is."
I asked if I could help in any way and she assured me she had it all in hand.

I was offered 3 shades of green cloth and chose the darkest one.It seemed like the right one for this "Novelty".
I left her to it and asked if the music I was playing (Bela and Grisman) bothered her and she said "No".
3 hours later she said she was done and I went out and saw it for the 1st time.

She did a beautiful job with the 4 piece slate's 3 seams.Undetectably smooth.I was told the old slates were in excellent condition.The "hospital corners" of the rail ends are perfectly wrapped and the cloth tension is the same over all surfaces.

The English bite is superbly strong and controllable in all directions.
I am so glad I called "Maine Home Recreation" out of Lewiston.Superb service.

Apr 16, 2024 - 8:20:39 AM

41088 posts since 3/5/2008

Picture please..

Apr 16, 2024 - 2:12:23 PM
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79648 posts since 5/9/2007

I have friends with phone/cameras,Al.
Pics soon.

Apr 16, 2024 - 3:03:48 PM

62056 posts since 12/14/2005
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"My friend, NOW you've got Trouble!

With a capital T and that rhymes with P and it stands for POOL!"

-H. Hill-

Apr 18, 2024 - 7:45:22 AM

79648 posts since 5/9/2007

I went to a performance of The Music Man at the Camden Opera House in the 70s.
Wonderful little theater about 20 miles up the road.
Walter Cronkite used to own the Camden Herald newspaper.I wonder if he might have been in the audience that night.

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