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Mar 4, 2024 - 1:48:51 PM
81 posts since 12/8/2011

Hello again. Just wondering if anyone can tell me more about this one. I bought it (on eBay, I think) about 2-3 years ago. The seller didn't know anything about it, apart from the markings on it. I thought I would try a fretless and either sell it if I didn't get the hang of it, or if I did then I'd sell it and get a full-size fretless. (In the end I got the full-size, but this went into storage.)

I remember trying to find out who made it and its possible age (about 2-3 years ago) and I vaguely remember not having much luck. It seemed like multiple makers/shops had used the same 'Dulcet' imprint.

So the dowel is stamped 'Dulcet' as you can see, and has the number 7535 stamped on it. There's another '35' stamped inside the rim that I didn't photograph. And there's some pencil on the underside of the head. Other than that, no identifying marks. Nothing on the peghead. It's flush-fret, in case that's not easily visible from photos.

So, anyone have any idea the origin/background of this little guy? As always, thank in advance! :)








Mar 5, 2024 - 1:24:31 AM

1945 posts since 4/25/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Barnacle Joe

Hello again. Just wondering if anyone can tell me more about this one. I bought it (on eBay, I think) about 2-3 years ago. The seller didn't know anything about it, apart from the markings on it. I thought I would try a fretless and either sell it if I didn't get the hang of it, or if I did then I'd sell it and get a full-size fretless. (In the end I got the full-size, but this went into storage.)

I remember trying to find out who made it and its possible age (about 2-3 years ago) and I vaguely remember not having much luck. It seemed like multiple makers/shops had used the same 'Dulcet' imprint.

So the dowel is stamped 'Dulcet' as you can see, and has the number 7535 stamped on it. There's another '35' stamped inside the rim that I didn't photograph. And there's some pencil on the underside of the head. Other than that, no identifying marks. Nothing on the peghead. It's flush-fret, in case that's not easily visible from photos.

So, anyone have any idea the origin/background of this little guy? As always, thank in advance! :)


Interesting banjo. The pot, dowel and hardware appear to be by G.P. Matthew of Birmingham but the neck is a bit odd. The neck gets very narrow as it runs down towards the pot. Can you post some more detailed photos ie back of the neck including the heel. 

Edited by - Stephen John Prior on 03/05/2024 01:26:01

Mar 5, 2024 - 5:38:10 AM

81 posts since 12/8/2011

quote:
Originally posted by Stephen John Prior
 

Interesting banjo. The pot, dowel and hardware appear to be by G.P. Matthew of Birmingham but the neck is a bit odd. The neck gets very narrow as it runs down towards the pot. Can you post some more detailed photos ie back of the neck including the heel. 


Thanks, that name rings a bell and I think was my best guess when I was previously looking for an answer.  I've added some more photos of the back of the neck, including the heel.








Mar 5, 2024 - 7:19:26 AM

1945 posts since 4/25/2007

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I've no doubt it's by G P Matthew. You might be interested in the above.

Mar 5, 2024 - 9:47:59 AM

325 posts since 6/20/2020

Have you used a mirror to check the back of the perch pole? Matthew often stamped his maker's mark out of sight there.

Mar 5, 2024 - 2:10:24 PM

81 posts since 12/8/2011

quote:
Originally posted by Pomeroy

Have you used a mirror to check the back of the perch pole? Matthew often stamped his maker's mark out of sight there.


I hadn't thought to until you mentioned it.  Alas, there is nothing there.

I'm wondering what makes everyone (well, 2-3 people) certain it's George Mathews?  Just the 'Dulcet' imprint and general look of the time?  Or is there some other signature feature I'm not seeing immediately? 

Does anyone want to opine about the market value today (with all the caveats that entails)?

Mar 6, 2024 - 12:58:33 AM

1945 posts since 4/25/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Barnacle Joe
quote:
Originally posted by Pomeroy

Have you used a mirror to check the back of the perch pole? Matthew often stamped his maker's mark out of sight there.


I hadn't thought to until you mentioned it.  Alas, there is nothing there.

I'm wondering what makes everyone (well, 2-3 people) certain it's George Mathews?  Just the 'Dulcet' imprint and general look of the time?  Or is there some other signature feature I'm not seeing immediately? 

Does anyone want to opine about the market value today (with all the caveats that entails)?


The size and position of the number stamps. That particular style of neck brace and rim shield. Of course at the end of the day it's just my opinion. I'd be interested to know the width of the fingerboard at the end of the neck. 

Mar 6, 2024 - 1:59:01 PM

81 posts since 12/8/2011

 
Originally posted by Stephen John Prior

The size and position of the number stamps. That particular style of neck brace and rim shield. Of course at the end of the day it's just my opinion. I'd be interested to know the width of the fingerboard at the end of the neck.

Thank you very much!  When I list it for sale, I'll go with your conclusion. 

The neck is 31mm just below the nut and 41mm just above the neck/body joint.  That's only 1mm narrower than my main/daily modern banjo, but considerably thinner at the bottom. 

Thanks again for your help!  smiley

Mar 7, 2024 - 1:35:48 AM

1945 posts since 4/25/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Barnacle Joe
 
Originally posted by Stephen John Prior

The size and position of the number stamps. That particular style of neck brace and rim shield. Of course at the end of the day it's just my opinion. I'd be interested to know the width of the fingerboard at the end of the neck.

Thank you very much!  When I list it for sale, I'll go with your conclusion. 

The neck is 31mm just below the nut and 41mm just above the neck/body joint.  That's only 1mm narrower than my main/daily modern banjo, but considerably thinner at the bottom. 

Thanks again for your help!  smiley


Thanks for the info. I thought from the photos it was a little narrow. Bit of a mystery then. Roughly and in new money on an old Matthew neck I would expect around 20mm difference from nut to pot end. From the photos it appears the nut has been changed at some point. 

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