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Feb 17, 2024 - 10:23:44 AM
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As requested by Bad Bernie in the "Other Banjo-Related Topics" forum, here's a break from my contest arrangement of "Fire Ball Mail": banjohangout.org/tab/browse.as...l&v=26941 .

The bar 1 of the tab consists of pickup notes; bar 2 is the "real" first measure. I've included RH fingering, which gets a little tricky in places, but you're on your own for LH fingering. ;^)

I was trying to imagine the sort of thing Tony Furtado (who was living in the DC area at the time) might come up with. After the first 4 or 5 bars, I started thinking, "Hey, why not just go for it?", so I kept going higher and higher up the neck. Note the places where I "push" notes, playing them just before the beat.

IIRC, when I played this at Winfield in 1992 I really muffed bars 11 and 12; those are still the trickiest for me. Years after I came up with this arrangement, I noticed that despite all the rhythmic and tonal wildness, it nevertheless follows the basic contours of the original melody.

Edited by - Ira Gitlin on 02/17/2024 10:24:45

Feb 17, 2024 - 11:06:58 AM
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Feb 18, 2024 - 3:25:18 AM
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Wow! Thanks Ira! I've got to try to learn it now though. Yikes!!  frown

Feb 18, 2024 - 6:06:29 AM
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Ira,
That's quite a Foray you've got there. I didn't know that many notes even existed...Jack laugh

Originally posted by Ira Gitlin

Here's a PDF.


Edited by - Jack Baker on 02/18/2024 06:11:58

Feb 18, 2024 - 11:57:18 AM
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Super, Ira! Are there any existing videos/audios of your performance at Winfield?

Feb 19, 2024 - 6:53:50 AM
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Originally posted by chuckv97

Super, Ira! Are there any existing videos/audios of your performance at Winfield?


No, I don't think so. That was back in the days before everyone had a high-quality video camera in their pocket.

Feb 19, 2024 - 7:47:36 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Ira Gitlin

As requested by Bad Bernie in the "Other Banjo-Related Topics" forum, here's a break from my contest arrangement of "Fire Ball Mail": banjohangout.org/tab/browse.as...l&v=26941 .


That's some crazy looking tab. Any way you could post a soundfile of this at a moderate tempo?  Thanks!

Feb 19, 2024 - 7:50:23 AM
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Originally posted by Flying Eagle
quote:
Originally posted by Ira Gitlin

As requested by Bad Bernie in the "Other Banjo-Related Topics" forum, here's a break from my contest arrangement of "Fire Ball Mail": banjohangout.org/tab/browse.as...l&v=26941 .


That's some crazy looking tab. Any way you could post a soundfile of this at a moderate tempo?  Thanks!


Maybe. FWIW, I wouldn't be able to do it at anything more than a moderate tempo without some intensive woodshedding.

Feb 19, 2024 - 11:08:29 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Ira Gitlin

As requested by Bad Bernie in the "Other Banjo-Related Topics" forum, here's a break from my contest arrangement of "Fire Ball Mail": banjohangout.org/tab/browse.as...l&v=26941 .

The bar 1 of the tab consists of pickup notes; bar 2 is the "real" first measure. I've included RH fingering, which gets a little tricky in places, but you're on your own for LH fingering. ;^)

I was trying to imagine the sort of thing Tony Furtado (who was living in the DC area at the time) might come up with. After the first 4 or 5 bars, I started thinking, "Hey, why not just go for it?", so I kept going higher and higher up the neck. Note the places where I "push" notes, playing them just before the beat.

IIRC, when I played this at Winfield in 1992 I really muffed bars 11 and 12; those are still the trickiest for me. Years after I came up with this arrangement, I noticed that despite all the rhythmic and tonal wildness, it nevertheless follows the basic contours of the original melody.


I heard your pickyfingers podcast interview talking about this arrangement. Super cool! I enjoyed the advice on how to create an arrangement with a contest in mind.

Feb 21, 2024 - 8:48:13 AM
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I tried, Ira.  Honestly, I tried.  I tried until my spirit was broken, overwhelmed by crushing feelings of deep inadequacy.  

I'm particularly fond of the two un-bends in measure 15.   But the rest of it defeated me.  

I'm now booked in for some emergency trauma counseling.   

Feb 21, 2024 - 11:36:38 AM
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Bernie,
Don't feel too bad. I can't touch Ira's arrangement either. Too many things to keep track of and I can't seem to find the melody. Maybe when I learn banjo I will HA. NYU degrees weren't enough--I want my money back from them crying..Jack

Edited by - Jack Baker on 02/21/2024 11:39:41

Feb 22, 2024 - 6:15:23 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Bad Bernie

I tried, Ira.  Honestly, I tried.  I tried until my spirit was broken, overwhelmed by crushing feelings of deep inadequacy.  

I'm particularly fond of the two un-bends in measure 15.   But the rest of it defeated me.  

I'm now booked in for some emergency trauma counseling.   


wink

Seriously, when I came up with it, I initially regarded it as a merely theoretical possibility--nothing that anyone could actually play up to tempo. I was a bit surprised myself that I could get it up to about 120 BPM. But that took months of practice!

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