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Feb 13, 2024 - 3:49:56 PM
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262 posts since 12/7/2007

Not sure if anyone else would be interested in such, but Zachary Hoyt just built a very nice Kraske style pot for me, to which he attached a (relatively inexpensive) Gold Tone BC-350+ wide neck, that I had sent to him directly. It’s featured on his website just now, under February’s “Shop News.” (Looks good, I think, and sounds good too, despite my lack of playing ability.)

Feb 13, 2024 - 4:07:15 PM
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3320 posts since 5/2/2012

Link to pictures  Interesting idea..and it does look really nice.

Feb 13, 2024 - 4:50:37 PM
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6256 posts since 10/12/2009

Beautiful banjo you and Zach put together there Samuel !

How's it sound ?

I've always thought those Kraske rims were interesting, maybe some day I'll get one and see what i can do with it.

Feb 13, 2024 - 5:20:48 PM
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4157 posts since 5/12/2010

Zach has really come a far ways in his instrument building skills. That is a very interesting design on the hollow pot.

Feb 13, 2024 - 7:35:39 PM

262 posts since 12/7/2007

“Thank you,” to all - for the link to the pictures, and for the kind remarks. I’ll try to get a sound clip of it posted soon; hopefully, by someone who can do it justice.

Feb 13, 2024 - 8:11:38 PM
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6180 posts since 12/20/2005

That’s the cleanest looking banjo I’ve ever seen. It is elegant and I like it.
I enjoyed reading the rest of the newsletter as well.
Zach, you are turning out some really good stuff!

Feb 14, 2024 - 5:45:40 AM
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3386 posts since 2/18/2009

Thank you all for your kind words. It's always a treat to get to work on something with Sam Roberts. Even with us both thinking about it it took a while to figure out how to go about making this type of rim, but it's not hard to actually do it.

Feb 14, 2024 - 5:54:14 AM
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802 posts since 7/10/2012

Thanks to you both for posting, I've always found your work inspiring Zach. Making a Kraske has been on my list of things to experiment with for a while just because its so unique and I'm super curious as to what the process and the sound would be like. In visualizing the process, one thing that I've puzzled over is the best way to get the right diameter on the top and bottom of the individual little slat segments. I landed on steam bending the middle slat as if it would be un-segmented and then slicing the pieces off of that. Just wondering where you landed on that part of the process Zach, any insights?

David

Feb 14, 2024 - 6:06:28 AM
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3386 posts since 2/18/2009

The blocks are just 1/2" maple cubes except that the one at the tailpiece side is full rim height, top to bottom, and the one at the neck is a bigger square, cut like you said, on a curve inside and out. The inner and outer layers are Keller drum shell, and the bump to hold the flange is another piece of drum shell, cut at the neck so it could expand and set into a shallow groove in the rim. The blocks are so small that they fit tightly against the rim walls, even though they are straight and not curved.

Feb 14, 2024 - 6:37:46 AM
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256 posts since 4/3/2009

Nice looking banjo! Now I know what "Kraske" style means!

Feb 14, 2024 - 10:04:50 AM

802 posts since 7/10/2012

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Originally posted by Zachary Hoyt

The blocks are just 1/2" maple cubes except that the one at the tailpiece side is full rim height, top to bottom, and the one at the neck is a bigger square, cut like you said, on a curve inside and out. The inner and outer layers are Keller drum shell, and the bump to hold the flange is another piece of drum shell, cut at the neck so it could expand and set into a shallow groove in the rim. The blocks are so small that they fit tightly against the rim walls, even though they are straight and not curved.


Ah, I always assumed that the blocks were full rim length all the way around.  So blocks at the top and a rim cap at the bottom, kind of like a chamber with vents at the top rather than series of enclosed cells then?

Feb 14, 2024 - 10:45:48 AM
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3386 posts since 2/18/2009

I thought that too till I saw a picture somewhere online that made it seem they were just a row of shallow blocks on top. I made a row around the bottom too, as I was not confident that the rim cap would be strong enough to hold the inner ring by itself, especially with the binding further weakening the joint. The walls are only just over 1/8" thick so there's not a lot of glue area on them.

Feb 15, 2024 - 6:08:59 AM

87 posts since 12/31/2016

Very neat.

What did you use for the flange?

Feb 15, 2024 - 9:41:40 AM
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3386 posts since 2/18/2009

I use 3/8" brass round rod for these flanges. It's heavier than brass tube, but I'm not equipped or skilled to bend tube nicely.

Feb 16, 2024 - 7:47:37 AM

87 posts since 12/31/2016

Thanks. That's exactly why I was asking. Difficulty in bending aside, hollow brass tube doesn't seem to be easy to come by around here.

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