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Dec 3, 2023 - 5:35:57 PM
17 posts since 9/21/2015

I am taking online lessons for bluegrass banjo on Peghead Nation with Bill Evans. I have reached the section where I am learning the first part of Foggy Mountain Special. I am struggling to learn the timing. After 2 weeks of playing it every day I have slightly improved but not able to play along with the backing track. It is a song I really want to learn. In context, I have been playing church songs for 5 years. I am now just getting into bluegrass. Songs I can play are Foggy Mountain Breakdown, Grandfathers Clock, Cherokee Shuffle and simpler bluegrass tunes. The next song in the series is Sally Goodin up the neck but I didn't want to move on until I get Foggy Mountain Special down.

Dec 3, 2023 - 6:15:44 PM
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83 posts since 3/10/2009

Good Luck. Foggy Mtn Special is one of those songs that sounds easy but to play it right is not that easy at all.

Dec 3, 2023 - 9:01:29 PM
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chuckv97

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71527 posts since 10/5/2013

Swing time and single string work make it difficult.  Good luck. I would slow down Earl's video on YouTube to .25 speed and try play along. 

Edited by - chuckv97 on 12/03/2023 21:03:55

Dec 4, 2023 - 4:32:34 AM
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663 posts since 5/21/2020

quote:
Originally posted by Thomas Rondo

I am taking online lessons for bluegrass banjo on Peghead Nation with Bill Evans. I have reached the section where I am learning the first part of Foggy Mountain Special. I am struggling to learn the timing. After 2 weeks of playing it every day I have slightly improved but not able to play along with the backing track. It is a song I really want to learn. In context, I have been playing church songs for 5 years. I am now just getting into bluegrass. Songs I can play are Foggy Mountain Breakdown, Grandfathers Clock, Cherokee Shuffle and simpler bluegrass tunes. The next song in the series is Sally Goodin up the neck but I didn't want to move on until I get Foggy Mountain Special down.


Hi Thomas Rondo Foggy Mountain Special is a challenging tune to learn. I am guessing when your playing it from the TAB you are playing it STRAIGHT, this tune has a bit of Boogie Woogie - Jazzy Swing Syncopation to it. It's hard to explain and I am sure someone better qualified than I will wade in and provide a better definition.

My advice for what it is worth is to listen to the tune over and over until it's fixed in your brain.

You could also run it past Bill. He doesn't pick up much mail in Peghead Nation but he is a regular here on the BHO and I am sure he'll respond if you email him direct. Bill is a really nice guy & very approachable in my experience bill@billevansbanjo.com

Dec 4, 2023 - 4:39:03 AM
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17 posts since 9/21/2015

quote:
Originally posted by FenderFred
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas Rondo

I am taking online lessons for bluegrass banjo on Peghead Nation with Bill Evans. I have reached the section where I am learning the first part of Foggy Mountain Special. I am struggling to learn the timing. After 2 weeks of playing it every day I have slightly improved but not able to play along with the backing track. It is a song I really want to learn. In context, I have been playing church songs for 5 years. I am now just getting into bluegrass. Songs I can play are Foggy Mountain Breakdown, Grandfathers Clock, Cherokee Shuffle and simpler bluegrass tunes. The next song in the series is Sally Goodin up the neck but I didn't want to move on until I get Foggy Mountain Special down.


Hi Thomas Rondo Foggy Mountain Special is a challenging tune to learn. I am guessing when your playing it from the TAB you are playing it STRAIGHT, this tune has a bit of Boogie Woogie - Jazzy Swing Syncopation to it. It's hard to explain and I am sure someone better qualified than I will wade in and provide a better definition.

My advice for what it is worth is to listen to the tune over and over until it's fixed in your brain.

You could also run it past Bill. He doesn't pick up much mail in Peghead Nation but he is a regular here on the BHO and I am sure he'll respond if you email him direct. Bill is a really nice guy & very approachable in my experience bill@billevansbanjo.com

Thank you for that info. I will contact him.


Dec 4, 2023 - 9:34:46 AM
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130 posts since 7/24/2003

This one takes a long time to learn, but worth it. So much of this tune can be re-used in so many other tunes especially county/honkytonk. For example, I used pieces of this for a lead to "The Race is on" - George Jones.

As other have said, lot's of swing and syncopation to this song ... so it's a bit different than a lot of Bluegrass.

You can also use tabledit to help "a bit" by modifying the syncopation setting to 1 (jazz 8ths) and 2 (swing eigths)  ... play along with that. Not perfect but it'll help. 

keep at it ... you'll get it.

Edited by - fish1963 on 12/04/2023 09:39:09

Dec 4, 2023 - 10:28:57 AM

663 posts since 5/21/2020

quote:
Originally posted by Thomas Rondo
quote:
Originally posted by FenderFred
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas Rondo

I am taking online lessons for bluegrass banjo on Peghead Nation with Bill Evans. I have reached the section where I am learning the first part of Foggy Mountain Special. I am struggling to learn the timing. After 2 weeks of playing it every day I have slightly improved but not able to play along with the backing track. It is a song I really want to learn. In context, I have been playing church songs for 5 years. I am now just getting into bluegrass. Songs I can play are Foggy Mountain Breakdown, Grandfathers Clock, Cherokee Shuffle and simpler bluegrass tunes. The next song in the series is Sally Goodin up the neck but I didn't want to move on until I get Foggy Mountain Special down.


Hi Thomas Rondo Foggy Mountain Special is a challenging tune to learn. I am guessing when your playing it from the TAB you are playing it STRAIGHT, this tune has a bit of Boogie Woogie - Jazzy Swing Syncopation to it. It's hard to explain and I am sure someone better qualified than I will wade in and provide a better definition.

My advice for what it is worth is to listen to the tune over and over until it's fixed in your brain.

You could also run it past Bill. He doesn't pick up much mail in Peghead Nation but he is a regular here on the BHO and I am sure he'll respond if you email him direct. Bill is a really nice guy & very approachable in my experience bill@billevansbanjo.com

Thank you for that info. I will contact him.


 


Hi Thomas Rondo

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Also check out this guy for more Boogie Woogie when you get done with Bill

 

 

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