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Oct 1, 2023 - 2:56:48 PM
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fingers crossed --I'll be installing it to it's home in a day or 2

when starting find the highpoint--work your way down slowly

no guarantees --just showing my attempt

Edited by - Tractor1 on 10/01/2023 16:50:24

Oct 2, 2023 - 4:56:06 AM

heavy5

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2809 posts since 11/3/2016

Good luck Tom , pot metal is brittle stuff , but gradual pressure may work ?
Keep us informed please . I no cracks appear , maybe some heat would settle the metal after bending w/o attaching the additional flanges , or , maybe not ?
Good to see some homespun attempts !

Edited by - heavy5 on 10/02/2023 04:59:35

Oct 2, 2023 - 6:39:20 AM
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heavy5

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quote:
Originally posted by heavy5

Good luck Tom , pot metal is brittle stuff , but gradual pressure may work ?
Keep us informed please . If no cracks appear , maybe some heat would settle the metal after bending w/o attaching the additional flanges , or , maybe not ?
Good to see some homespun attempts !


Oct 2, 2023 - 7:00:11 AM

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it moved plenty without the heat--I was a coward on heating that but did think of putting it in the oven 300 degrees ,while under stress but I didn't--I,ll get it back on the arch top and try to get it up to the usual range -while watching --

Oct 2, 2023 - 7:03:12 AM
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I think you are on to something. This could be huge!
As is commonly known, pot metal is weak and brittle. Maybe you could try applying some heat, with a heat gun as you go.

Oct 2, 2023 - 7:46:10 AM

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low income plenty of toys and time equals homespun heavy ha ha old arms and legs get lazy though

Oct 2, 2023 - 2:41:14 PM
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it's on and holding plenty good -around 90 on the drum measure --b note on the arch top head --it may have pulled slightly but not sure--After I snugged it back up and had it sitting even I went round and round with my neary torque tool at the 3rd graduation kept going several times till they all'caught up good"then went up to the 5 th graduation and repeated--I ended up on the 9th graduation--but that setting is not a go to setting for all banjos--the reason i use the tool is to keep a watch on the task at hand
The flange -- was turned to the point where the bead was digging into the rim-now there is a slight clearance and 277-1 and I am happy

Oct 2, 2023 - 6:05:31 PM
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Great idea Tom. Thank you for sharing this information!

Oct 6, 2023 - 6:03:23 AM

6130 posts since 12/20/2005

I know it’s only been a few days, but how is the flange holding up ?

Oct 6, 2023 - 7:03:59 AM
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just fine still sittin on the b note-i'''ll check it with the drum dial later today when i get to the music room- but it feels good and tight--I never got it back to factory condition flat--but it is plenty flat --like i said the bead was digging in when it got removed -but now there is a hair line space between the bead and rim-- a friend took a fall carrying it once and one area was a bit higher-I didn't get too picky with the pull--I probably could have changed the bolts to8-32 after it straightened some--and got a bit more--but I did'nt want to kill the goose laying golden age--it looks good and acceptable--
 when tightening the head --first I got it sitting level

then

like I said -I did not do--- the earl suggested skipping around similar to torquing a head on an engine -but instead went very lightly around with a neary torque tool round and round consecutive --slowly slowly --increasing the graduations--the thought being--not stressing any one point all by it's lone some
when we were coming of age it was -tighten heads--sand bridges--get lighter heads--on and on --of course I actually have calmed down on seeking fortune and fame now ha ha

Edited by - Tractor1 on 10/06/2023 07:06:14

Oct 6, 2023 - 7:39:39 AM

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that should have been goose laying golden eggs --duhh

Oct 6, 2023 - 7:46:27 AM
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heavy5

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2809 posts since 11/3/2016

This may not be the place for it but I have for many yrs been duplicating a neck reset on quality guitars , some what akin to your flange straightening .
First , u need a good case w/ one neck support just behind the heel & ALL string pressure released to 0 & as well the truss rod if applicable .
Pad the guitar top from the rear of the bridge to the rear most end of the top w/ 1/2 to 1" soft foam . do the same under the bottom from the heel area to 4 -5 "towards the rear so u are raising that area & lowering the top rear when closing the case .
Then add stiffer foam to the top of the peg head so when closing the case u are giving down ward pressure on the peg head . Gently close & latch the case unless u have too much foam somewhere & it won't close .
There is considerable COMMON SENSE required as to how much foam to put where , especially on the peghead as this process requires patience & time to work --but it does work !
Just don't overdo the pressure & , don't expect results in a couple of weeks --- it takes time !

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